An insider says that white rural Christian America has a 'dark, racist underbelly'
An insider says that white rural Christian America has a dark, racist underbelly
on February 19, 2020
By Forsetti's Justice, AlterNet
- Commentary
A common theme keeps cropping up from all sides: Democrats fail to understand white, working-class, fly-over America.
Trump supporters are saying this. Progressive pundits are saying this. Talking heads across all forms of the media are saying this. Even some Democratic leaders are saying this. It doesnt matter how many people say it, it is complete BS. It is an intellectual/linguistic sleight of hand meant to draw attention away from the real problem. The real problem isnt East Coast elites who dont understand or care about rural America. The real problem is that rural Americans dont understand the causes of their own situations and fears and they have shown no interest in finding out. They dont want to know why they feel the way they do or why they are struggling because they dont want to admit it is in large part because of the choices theyve made and the horrible things theyve allowed themselves to believe.
I grew up in rural Christian white America. Youd be hard-pressed to find an area of the country with a higher percentage of Christians or whites. I spent most of the first 24 years of my life deeply embedded in this culture. I religiously (pun intended) attended their Christian services. I worked off and on on their rural farms. I dated their calico-skirted daughters. I camped, hunted and fished with their sons. I listened to their political rants at the local diner and truck stop. I winced at their racist/bigoted jokes and epithets that were said more out of ignorance than animosity. I have watched the town I grew up in go from a robust economy with well-kept homes and infrastructure to a struggling economy with shuttered businesses, dilapidated homes and a broken-down infrastructure over the past 30 years. The problem isnt that I dont understand these people. The problem is they dont understand themselves or the reasons for their anger and frustration.
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Because rural Christian white Americans will not listen to educated arguments, supported by facts that go against their fundamentalist belief systems from outsiders, any change must come from within. Internal change in these systems does happen, but it happens infrequently and always lags far behind reality. This is why they fear change so much. They arent used to it. Of course, it really doesnt matter whether they like it or not, it, like evolution and climate change even though they dont believe it, it is going to happen whether they believe in it or not.
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Gays being allowed to marry are a threat. Blacks protesting the killing of their unarmed friends and family are a threat. Hispanics doing the cheap labor on their farms are somehow viewed a threat. The black president is a threat. Muslims are a threat. The Chinese are a threat. Women wanting to be autonomous are a threat. The college educated are a threat. Godless scientists are a threat. Everyone who isnt just like them has been sold to them as a threat and theyve bought it hook, line and grifting sinker. Since there are no self-regulating mechanisms in their belief systems, these threats only grow over time. Since facts and reality dont matter, nothing you say to them will alter their beliefs. President Obama was born in Kenya, is a secret member of the Muslim Brotherhood who hates white Americans and is going to take away their guns. I feel ridiculous even writing this, it is so absurd, but it is gospel across large swaths of rural America. Are rural Christian white Americans scared? Damn right they are. Are their fears rational and justified? Hell no. The problem isnt understanding their fears. The problem is how to assuage fears based on lies in closed-off fundamentalist belief systems that dont have the necessary tools for properly evaluating the fears. ........(more)
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/02/an-insider-says-that-white-rural-christian-america-has-a-dark-racist-underbelly/
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,697 posts)Which brings up the point that in these communities where you find white residents/families using religion to push discriminatory practices, don't you think those of us being harmed by their behavior that we need special assistance?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)I'd never have guessed!
2naSalit
(86,496 posts)It needs to be broadcast though. Their agenda doesn't include a free society.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)and are only pretend religious to save their own miserable racist arses from hell.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Otherwise, the editorial is pretty accurate about the knee jerk reaction to any change at all to a poverty inducing, closed minded system of beliefs AND actions. My source: 49 years living in a small town in the Bible Belt, the belly of the Beast. It's Hell on Earth, because the majority here make it that way and keep it that way by refusing to allow change anywhere in this town and by voting against their own best interests, every.single.time.
Farmer-Rick
(10,150 posts)They actually pay evangelical leaders, especially TV preachers, to promote hatred and stupidity.
Then there is always the NRA money Russia hands out sloshing about those rural communities.
Since most rural areas have higher unemployment and are poorer, that Russian money goes a long way. Just ask Moscow Mitch.
the absolutely truth.
Marcuse
(7,463 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Kaiserguy
(740 posts)and it is not a nice place to live if you aren't one of them. Racism is a very real part of rural America as is there toxic masculinity. Many of them will never vote for a woman for President. There are of course people living here who are not racist and would love to see a woman as President we are however in a minority. The county that I live in is has 13,650 Rep 6,700 Dem 3,300 Other Party in 2016 Trump got 11,635 votes or 71.4% of the vote Hillary got 4,025 votes or 24.7% of the vote. Funny thing is that Obama did better in 2008 getting 40% to McCain 57% in 2012 Romney got 63% to Obama 35% I suspect that if our nominee is male that they will do better in rural PA than a woman will based on the recent election result.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)dalton99a
(81,426 posts)How do you make climate change personal to someone who believes only god can alter the weather? How do you make racial equality personal to someone who believes whites are naturally superior to non-whites? How do you make gender equality personal to someone who believes women are supposed to be subservient to men by gods command? How do you get someone to view minorities as not threatening to people who dont live around minorities and have never interacted with them? How do you make personal the fact massive tax cuts and cutting back government hurts their economic situation when theyve voted for such policies for decades? I dont think you can without some catastrophic events. And maybe not even then. The Civil War was pretty damn catastrophic, yet a large swath of the South believedand still believesthey were right and had the moral high ground. They were/are also mostly Christian fundamentalists who believe they are superior because of the color of their skin and the religion they profess to follow. There is a pattern here for anyone willing to connect the dots.
Rural white America needs to be better understood, is not one of the dots. Rural white America needs to be better understood, is a dodge, meant to avoid the real problems because talking about the real problems is viewed as too upsetting, too mean, too arrogant, too elite, too snobbish. Pointing out that Aunt Beas views of Mexicans, blacks and gays is bigoted isnt the thing one does in polite society. Too bad more people dont think the same about Aunt Beas views. Its the classic, Youre a racist for calling me a racist, ploy.
What I understand is that rural Christian white Americans are entrenched in fundamentalist belief systems; dont trust people outside their tribe; have been force-fed a diet of misinformation and lies for decades; are unwilling to understand their own situations; and truly believe whites are superior to all races. No amount of understanding is going to change these things or what they believe. No amount of niceties will get them to be introspective. No economic policy put forth by someone outside their tribe is going to be listened to no matter how beneficial it would be for them. I understand rural Christian white America all too well. I understand their fears are based on myths and lies. I understand they feel left behind by a world they dont understand and dont really care to. They are willing to vote against their own interests if they can be convinced it will make sure minorities are harmed more. Their Christian beliefs and morals are only extended to fellow white Christians. They are the problem with progress and always will be, because their belief systems are constructed against it.
Aristus
(66,307 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,358 posts)The insider just figured that all by himself?
Just research Mormons and racism. They were just too stupid to hide it.
Sherlock is not meant for the original poster
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)Pun intended.
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)allowing interracial marriage, the US would all be 'coffee colored' people by the year 2000. They were scared that white people would be bred out of existence. Look around, has that happened?? One black president and I am sure they are thinking that no white man or woman would be elected again. these people are afraid of their shadows and not smart.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)And yet, we can't seem to defeat them.
happy feet
(866 posts)As an 'outsider' I've always cringed of talk of "understanding" them. Have always felt without evidence that the real issue is their refusal to look inward for self-reflection and blame the white capitalist power structure instead of "others" for their ills.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)heckles65
(548 posts)I've posted it on my blog and sang its praises since 11/16.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)The upshot is that their vision of a utopia is a country of peop,e who are must like them. Same religion, same skin color, same country of origin, same sexual orientation, same same same. Homogeneity is the word. The wingnuts on the radio and TV are their puppeteers, exploiting their narrowly defined, black and white worldview. The problem, is that this utopian world is untenable. This county is changing, and changing fast , leaving behind so many rural whites who will not accept reality. What'll happen is that they will be marginalized further and further til their kind vanish into history.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)I understand them all too well which is why they MAKE ME SICK.
lees1975
(3,845 posts)between the doctrines and theology of a true, Biblical Christianity and those who follow a Fundamentalist perspective which leads to white supremacy and the anti-educational, anti-intellectual bias they claim comes from East coast elites. Most African Americans, who are virtually the most unified constituency of the Democratic party, are also Christians belonging to churches and denominations that are doctrinally considered "Evangelical Conservative." A high percentage of Latinos are also "Evangelicals," as well as Democrats. The "Fundamentalist" white-supremacist, anti-intellectual group is a pseudo-Christian faith and much more of a cultural religion. If you sat down with a genuine Christian theologian not raised in or influenced by a Fundamentalist perspective, you'll find that they can pick apart most of the core beliefs of Fundamentalism with Bible verses. It would be hard for a Christian following the teachings of Christ to be a Trump supporter.
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