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elleng

(130,861 posts)
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:47 AM Aug 2020

Posted by an acquaintance:'I just watched a very disturbing report on CBS Sunday Morning

with Jane Pauley. Ted Koppel interviewed Gary Hart and John Yoo about secret powers given to the president during national crises. PEADs are Presidential Emergency Action Documents that can be used to effectively suspend the constitution during an emergency. Trump has declared 7 national emergencies during his term, including the COVID-19 outbreak. Trump often comments that he has more power than everyone realizes and after watching this report, my blood ran cold. Members of Congress are not aware of the PEADs and have no authority over how they are used. In fact, Gary Hart stated that he had never heard of PEADs during his 50 years in the government. John Yoo admitted they exist, defended their use, and has participated in updating the documents. Apparently, the Trump administration is currently revising the PEADs. Gary Hart called these documents a blueprint for dictatorship.

PLEASE watch today’s episode as soon as it’s posted on the CBS site. This is exactly how Trump will delay the election.'

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Posted by an acquaintance:'I just watched a very disturbing report on CBS Sunday Morning (Original Post) elleng Aug 2020 OP
We will see if the Supreme Court would rule to suspend the election, which has NEVER occurred during still_one Aug 2020 #1
Where does the authority for these documents originate ? It sounds like Uglicans just ... eppur_se_muova Aug 2020 #2
It doesn't appear to be made up. I just don't think its Constitutionality has ever been tested still_one Aug 2020 #3
Could we have an example stopdiggin Aug 2020 #4
Federal Emergency Plan D-Minus was a plan developed by the United States in the 1950s elleng Aug 2020 #7
thank you! (nt) stopdiggin Aug 2020 #16
It certainly does sound worrisome, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #5
Thanks for looking into it. elleng Aug 2020 #6
I'll try to keep it kicked, and... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #8
NOTHING to complain about. elleng Aug 2020 #9
I thought that many times also, but... AmyStrange Aug 2020 #10
seems outside the US Constitution eShirl Aug 2020 #11
Its in the Constituion until it is exercised and challenged and declared so. 3Hotdogs Aug 2020 #12
Here is a link to the segment mitch96 Aug 2020 #13
Thanks elleng Aug 2020 #14
Thanx for the heads up Ellen. This sounds very serious, appalachiablue Aug 2020 #15
Kick AmyStrange Aug 2020 #17

still_one

(92,116 posts)
1. We will see if the Supreme Court would rule to suspend the election, which has NEVER occurred during
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:16 AM
Aug 2020

any national or wartime event is Constitutional

As for John (there never was a torture he didn't like), Yoo, I will wait to see what the SC says on the subject if it gets that far

Barring a nuclear war, (which I wouldn't put past trump), if he tried to suspend the election, and the SC agreed with that, the country is quite simply over. The country would no longer exist, and the Civil Unrest that would occur would be massive, and I don't believe this would be just from Democrats, it would cross party lines




eppur_se_muova

(36,257 posts)
2. Where does the authority for these documents originate ? It sounds like Uglicans just ...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 01:19 AM
Aug 2020

making shit up again.

stopdiggin

(11,292 posts)
4. Could we have an example
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 02:09 AM
Aug 2020

where one of these has been executed? What action taken, and during what national emergency? Otherwise I'm not even sure what we are discussing/debating here.

elleng

(130,861 posts)
7. Federal Emergency Plan D-Minus was a plan developed by the United States in the 1950s
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:30 AM
Aug 2020

to guide the federal government in the immediate aftermath of a catastrophic nuclear attack. Plan D-Minus was part of the National Plan for Emergency Preparedness, which also included Mobilization Plan C (providing direction for federal planning in the three weeks prior to a global nuclear war).

https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/federal-emergency-plan-d-presidential-emergency-action-documents-peads/

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
8. I'll try to keep it kicked, and...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:44 AM
Aug 2020

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hopefully no one complains.

If anyone does, just reply with a, "kick and thank you for helping to keep this thread visible!"
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AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
10. I thought that many times also, but...
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 03:55 AM
Aug 2020

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some people don't like it when something negative is posted, or overshadows the election, or seems like there's really nothing to worry about.

You've already had a couple posters here doubt that it even exist.

Just a heads up, but thank you for starting this thread.
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3Hotdogs

(12,366 posts)
12. Its in the Constituion until it is exercised and challenged and declared so.
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 07:07 AM
Aug 2020

You're depending on Keggerboy, Sleepy Clary and others to decide this?

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