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Wed Sep 2, 2020, 10:46 AM

This Is Democrats' Doomsday Scenario for Election Night

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What if early results in swing states on Nov. 3 show President Trump ahead, and he declares victory before heavily Democratic mail-in votes, which he has falsely linked with fraud, are fully counted?

What if early results in swing states on election night show the president in the lead because most Republicans voted in person, yet in the days afterward, as mail ballots that tilt heavily Democratic are tallied, states flip to Joseph R. Biden Jr.?

Would Mr. Trump claim premature victory — as he did on behalf of the two Florida Republicans and dangled as a possibility in a tweet in July: “Must know Election results on the night of the Election, not days, months, or even years later!”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/02/us/politics/voting-election-day.html


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We should make the effort to vote early in person. We can’t afford the election to be called prematurely for Trump! Mask up and keep your hands clean!

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Indyfan53 Sep 2 OP
bearsfootball516 Sep 2 #1
MosheFeingold Sep 2 #14
bearsfootball516 Sep 2 #17
dawg day Sep 2 #2
LW1977 Sep 2 #3
sweetloukillbot Sep 2 #7
RicROC Sep 2 #13
MosheFeingold Sep 2 #16
ElementaryPenguin Sep 2 #4
Pobeka Sep 2 #10
asiliveandbreathe Sep 2 #5
FBaggins Sep 2 #6
2naSalit Sep 2 #8
onetexan Sep 2 #18
Meadowoak Sep 2 #9
marble falls Sep 2 #11
onetexan Sep 2 #19
Mz Pip Sep 2 #12
vercetti2021 Sep 2 #15

Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 10:52 AM

1. That's why I'm voting in person.

I'll be there when the polls open, mask, sanitizer and all.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:12 PM

14. Concur

There is zero reason to use a mail-in ballot. I don't understand the hoopla.

"If you can go to Starbucks, you can vote." -- Dr. Fauci.

Like it or not, the USPS has been terrible for 50 years. I know it does amazing things. But it also has been grossly mismanaged for decades. Trump may be trying to kill it, but it's about 3/4 dead already.

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Response to MosheFeingold (Reply #14)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:37 PM

17. If you're sick or a high-risk person, I get wanting to vote by mail.

But if you're healthy and capable of wearing a mask, I'd encourage voting on election day.

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 10:52 AM

2. He can claim all he likes--

Biden just has to be sure not to do what Al Gore did, and concede, then have to take it back.

"We'll wait for all the results to come in."

And it's hardly unknown. 2000... Bush v Gore... a whole month.

In 2018, several Congressional races weren't called for a week.

"We have to be patient because our military servicemembers vote by mail."

(Of course, now that the polls of the military show Trump losing with them, he'll want to suppress their votes too.)

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 10:55 AM

3. It's Democratic, not Democrats!

Democrats is a right wing troll nickname.

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Response to LW1977 (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 11:12 AM

7. Democrats is the correct plural

Democrat Party is incorrect.

And frankly, after 25 years of hearing it, I don't see the point in getting upset about it. They're not going to stop trying to get a rise out of us, because evidently it's working.

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Response to LW1977 (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:50 PM

13. DFL Party

I like the name of the Minnesota Democratic Party, the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party.

Agreeing to use their name might solve this dilemma. Call our party the 'DFL Party'.

Frankly, I was impressed by the name of another party, the Working Families Party.

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Response to LW1977 (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:18 PM

16. Hate to break it to you

But we've been "Democrats" for a long time.

I have a "Vote Democrat" poster on my wall autographed by Harry Truman.

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 10:56 AM

4. Putin can't hack mail-in ballots...

That fact - and the prospect of a huge mail-in turnout - is why Trump doesn't want us to vote by mail.

If Trump doesn't want me to vote by mail - THEN I'M VOTING BY MAIL - AND AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE!!



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Response to ElementaryPenguin (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:25 PM

10. Russia can hack the precinct tallies. Those are electronic. n/t

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 10:56 AM

5. Thus, the Red Mirage, as some people are calling it, and the debate begins..

PLAN YOUR VOTE..

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/blog/2020-democratic-national-convention-kicks-n1236923/ncrd1236932#blogHeader

is a new, interactive tool from NBC News and MSNBC, which encourages Americans to plan when and how they will vote, taking into account each state’s coronavirus pandemic restrictions, mail-in ballot rules, early in-person voting and more.

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 11:11 AM

6. The Electoral College meets about a month after election day

And no state has official results until all the valid votes have been tallied.

The news "calls" on election night... and a candidate's claimed victory... have nothing at all to do with the actual results of the election.

If the "doomsday" scenario occurs, the states won't "flip" to Biden. He will have won them outright.

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 11:59 AM

8. That's why...

HRC suggests no concession. If the orange one tries to mess with the results...

If you think the militias are a force, just wait to see what cheated voters will do.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:03 PM

18. Exactly. As Hillary advised, Biden should NOT concede before all the votes have been counted.

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 12:14 PM

9. I will vote on October 13, 1st day of early voting in KY.

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:35 PM

11. I'm tired of all these what ifs. Turn out the vote and bury him.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 05:04 PM

19. Ditto. Vote early and tell everyone u know to vote this Idiot out!

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 02:46 PM

12. That's why we have lawyers

Trump isn’t the only one capable of filing lawsuits.

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Response to Indyfan53 (Original post)

Wed Sep 2, 2020, 04:16 PM

15. He can't claim anything

Especially if the threshold isn't even met. 270 to win and I don't think he'll get above 200 on election night. You can claim fraud and I win but if the state hasn't certified it you can't cry foul

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