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Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:12 PM

(From April, needs repeated) Lockdown protesters resemble "child soldiers" and "urban gangs"

Yale psychiatrist Bandy Lee: Lockdown protesters resemble “child soldiers” and “urban gangs”

A Yale psychiatrist has warned that pro-Trump lockdown protesters, who exhibit similar psychology as "child soldiers," could quickly turn into "armed troops in the streets" if the president loses his re-election bid.

Dr. Bandy X. Lee, a forensic psychiatrist at the Yale School of Medicine, said the armed protests were a natural evolution of the loyalty President Trump demands from his supporters. Many of these protests have evidently been organized by deep-pocketed groups allied with the president.

..."Subconsciously, it is a loyalty test for the people," Lee said. "In Africa, where I did some ethnographic work, child soldiers would be recruited and made to kill a family member to demonstrate their allegiance to the government and not to the family. Similarly, in urban gangs in America, one may be challenged to kill a police officer to prove one's willingness to uphold gang rules over societal rules.

"When Donald Trump suggests that the virus be taken as a 'hoax', that people gather in churches or that people protest for their own sacrifice, he is actually testing people's loyalty to the 'laws' of his mind over the laws of nature, or even impulse for survival. The more he abuses them, the greater their devotion grows, since the psychological cost of admitting their mistake is ever higher — and so it becomes easier to dig a well of unreality than to see the obvious truth.

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/23/yale-psychiatrist-bandy-lee-lockdown-protesters-resemble-child-soldiers-and-urban-gangs/



When Donald Trump forces his followers into crowded indoor rallies without masks, he is demanding they prove their loyalty to him with their lives. This is what I meant when I compared his commands to those made to gang members and child soldiers:
The more he demands of them, the more deeply they will be trained in their devotion to him, giving up their personal interests, their lives, and their agency. There will be no end to this without stopping the cycle of abuse.




9 of the 10 states that have seen the most rapid increase in #coronavirus are states that voted for Trump in 2016, led by Texas, where the number of reported cases increased by 297 percent. | via @FiveThirtyEight @NateSilver538 #MAGAMasochism 🦊🤡😷
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-coronavirus-isnt-just-a-blue-state-problem/

What all of this exposes is a deadly Red state tribal loyalty/ideological purity/cult membership test that essentially provides Trump with the greatest source of narcissistic supply a malignant narcissist could experience because…
….if people are willing to sacrifice their grandparents, other Americans, and even their own lives in order to “save” the economy…..and by extension, Trump, his presidency, and his legacy.…

...then, in Trump’s mind…Trump must be a “great man”

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icymist Sep 17 OP
LakeArenal Sep 17 #1
safeinOhio Sep 17 #2
icymist Sep 17 #3
safeinOhio Sep 17 #4
icymist Sep 17 #5
safeinOhio Sep 17 #6
icymist Sep 17 #7
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Response to icymist (Original post)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 04:16 PM

1. Good read.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:01 PM

2. I see QAnon as a Cargo Cult.

Anthro minor here.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #2)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:17 PM

3. How so?

I see Qanon as demonizing identifiable groups while worshiping* their 'Messiah' who is really a malignant narcissist sucking up their energy so he can feel good about himself.

*I unconsciously wrote whoreship! LOL!

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Response to icymist (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:23 PM

4. Unconnected groups springing up

globally with crazy beliefs of saviors coming to free them, bringing cargo(material wealth) that the “others” have that they can’t afford.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #4)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:29 PM

5. Interesting.

I had forgotten about the wackos in Germany parading around with Trump flags.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/07/world/europe/germany-trump-far-right.html

I need to read up on Cargo Cults.

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Response to icymist (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:36 PM

6. Here is a good start.

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Response to safeinOhio (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:47 PM

7. Thank you.

I'll get to it after finishing this write up in SA:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/1959-cargo-cults-melanesia/

Real interesting stuff and I do believe you are correct; Qanon is a Cargo Cult.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Thu Sep 17, 2020, 11:54 PM

8. "The psychological cost of admitting their mistake..."

That’s why no matter what the adipose ass pulls they have to stick with him.

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