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Wed Sep 30, 2020, 07:51 PM

Maybe useful info, by a 'friend:'

Gina Meissler

'I am not posting this in order to endorse or support any particular candidate, but rather to educate some of you who may need it.

Joe Biden is a stutterer. His slowed rate of speech is an intentional and deliberate strategy for improved speech fluency. As a speech language pathologist, I can tell you that he uses this strategy exceptionally well and is an example to other people who stutter.

People who stutter, who choose to speak in the spotlight, are incredibly brave. On a national stage...that is mind-blowing. Their slowed rate of speech is an indication of their training and discipline, not of slow processing or diminished intelligence.

If you disagree with Joe Bidenís politics, I can understand that. But the ďSlow JoeĒ thing needs to stop. Itís an indication of your ignorance, and a slap in the face to the many people Iíve worked with over the years who have busted their humps to communicate effectively (and to avoid the cruelty and ridicule that is being perpetuated now).'

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Reply Maybe useful info, by a 'friend:' (Original post)
elleng Sep 30 OP
Bleacher Creature Sep 30 #1
elleng Sep 30 #2
Eko Sep 30 #3
iluvtennis Sep 30 #4
TrogL Sep 30 #5
Mr.Bill Sep 30 #12
CaptYossarian Oct 1 #36
gademocrat7 Sep 30 #6
wnylib Sep 30 #20
TomSlick Sep 30 #7
Pacifist Patriot Oct 1 #35
Doreen Sep 30 #8
Tommymac Sep 30 #9
klook Oct 1 #42
fierywoman Sep 30 #10
Mr.Bill Sep 30 #11
pnwmom Sep 30 #27
Mr.Bill Sep 30 #28
pnwmom Sep 30 #29
Lars39 Sep 30 #13
luvtheGWN Sep 30 #19
Lars39 Sep 30 #21
Ferrets are Cool Sep 30 #14
keithbvadu2 Sep 30 #15
AZ8theist Sep 30 #17
dchill Sep 30 #22
SayItLoud Sep 30 #16
StarryNite Sep 30 #18
keithbvadu2 Sep 30 #23
Joinfortmill Sep 30 #24
wendyb-NC Sep 30 #25
PatSeg Sep 30 #26
ancianita Sep 30 #30
Redleg Sep 30 #31
NoRoadUntravelled Sep 30 #32
rurallib Oct 1 #33
N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 1 #34
niyad Oct 1 #37
Neema Oct 1 #38
llashram Oct 1 #39
ihas2stinkyfeet Oct 1 #40
Stuart G Oct 1 #41
wryter2000 Oct 1 #43

Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 07:59 PM

1. I wish I could rec this more than once!

This is spot on and so perfect. I paid close attention to Biden last night to see if there was anything the Trump lunatics could latch onto to attack him, and I noticed right away that every time he seemed to stammer it was obvious that he was searching for an alternate word that he could use to avoid getting stuck.

He really is remarkably brave to put himself out there and you can see why he's such an inspiration for young stutterers.

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:04 PM

2. Yes, VERY brave.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:08 PM

3. Kick.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:49 PM

4. K&R. nt

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:51 PM

5. Many people find my rate of speech frustrating as well

Thatís because I think before I speak

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Response to TrogL (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:21 PM

12. That's my take on how Obama always spoke.

When you're president, it's hard to unsay the wrong word one you said it. Better to think and choose words carefully., a skill Trump does not have.

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Response to TrogL (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 08:40 AM

36. That was also true for President Carter.

Pausing to flash that great smile was also an effective tool. It also worked to calm the general public.

That's leadership.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 08:54 PM

6. K&R

Biden is a role model for people who stutter.

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Response to gademocrat7 (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:36 PM

20. Yes. More than that, he is a role model

for everyone on being a decent human being. How refreshing in these times.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:05 PM

7. I'm a southerner. I don't think Joe's speak is at all slow.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 06:06 AM

35. Same here.

The "slow Joe" stuff puzzled the heck out of me until I learned about the stutter.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:08 PM

8. This is EXACTLY what I have been telling people.

I have a friend who says it seems like he is tripping over his own feet. I explain he is being careful and not blurting things out and sound unintelligible. Processing what you are going to say is wise whether you have a speech problem or not. He has no problem thinking it is just bringing it to words he has to be careful about. I would like to see those who put him down about his speech to be able to handle donny as well as Biden did last night. I am very proud of how Biden did last night.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:08 PM

9. This needs to be on the Greatest Page.

Thanks so much.

I have 'known' Joe Biden as a politician for years. But until the convention, I did not know he stutters.

I have a mild stutter because my brain works very fast and my mouth can't keep up. I have had to train myself to slow down my thoughts in high stress (public) scenarios. It is extremely hard to maintain.

So proud of him to have the courage to get out there in that toxic highly stressful environment last night and speak and maintain his dignity.



Vote Joe & Kamala. We need a blue tsunami on Nov 3.

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:53 AM

42. Better to have a brain that works faster than your mouth

than a mind thatís on vacation and a mouth that works overtime.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:09 PM

10. Bravo for this!

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:18 PM

11. I am also a stutterer.

I was a disaster in grade school. Basically I coped in my teen years by expanding my vocabulary so when I felt a stutter coming on I could substitute a synonym. By high school I could speak pretty normally. In my late 20s I was able to speak publicly to 10,000 people at a convention. I'm 67 mow and only very occasionally wind up with a stutter here an there. I will be conscious of it and working on it for the rest of my life.

I agree with everything in the OP. I admire Biden for what he has done with this issue.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:21 PM

27. Did you see Brayden Harrison at the convention? What an inspiration. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #27)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:29 PM

28. Yes I did.

I was him at that age. Brave young man.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #28)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:38 PM

29. And so was Joe Biden.

Brayden was the embodiment of a young Joe.

And who couldn't love Brayden?

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:25 PM

13. I didn't remember he stutters sometimes until he did.

And then it was barely noticeable. He is so good at overcoming it.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #13)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:35 PM

19. I've never noticed any unusual hesitation in his speech.

But isn't it nice to hear someone who can speak in words of more than one syllable, without using any useless and meaningless superlatives?

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Response to luvtheGWN (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:39 PM

21. Definitely!

Iíve worked very hard to not listen to the orange one. I threw myself into the deep end last night watching the ďdebateĒ.
Itís been Miss Marple ever since.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:26 PM

14. Wonderful statement from an expert.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:27 PM

15. Would Trump mock someone with a disability? Yes.

Would Trump mock someone with a disability? Yes.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #15)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:30 PM

17. He gives "ASSHOLES" a bad name...

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #17)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:49 PM

22. Well, they deserve it. They're assholes, after all.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:30 PM

16. Thanks for posting this for all those ill informed and cruel. NT.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:30 PM

18. Thank you for sharing this.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:51 PM

23. Eric Trump Video Saying Biden 'Can't Get Through Two Sentences Without Stuttering' Resurfaces After

Eric Trump Video Saying Biden 'Can't Get Through Two Sentences Without Stuttering' Resurfaces After

https://www.newsweek.com/eric-trump-video-joe-biden-two-sentences-stuttering-resurfaces-1478431


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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:56 PM

24. Thank you

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 09:56 PM

25. Thank you, for saying this.

It is so important to point this out.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:16 PM

26. Thank you for posting this

I've known about Joe's stutter since I read his book, Promises to Keep in 2007 and I can recognize when he's having a bit of trouble with his words occasionally. Throughout his career, I have heard him give some dynamic and eloquent speeches, but those words didn't just flow out of his mouth effortlessly. There was an ongoing conscious effort to put together the words into rhythmic phrases much like a poem, but he made it look spontaneous and effortless.

It took years of practice to accomplish that skill and he has taught many other stutterers how to do it. Joe has a really sharp mind and often it is hard for his mouth to keep up. People tend to mistake that and the occasional stutter for a declining intellect and they would be wrong.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:41 PM

30. This is great. Thank you.Biden's cheap critics on social media could do with this sort of reminder.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:43 PM

31. Thank you for explaining this

It is always good to hear from an expert on these matters. I think that Joe Biden did just fine last night, in spite of the constant interruptions and outbursts by the toddler president.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Wed Sep 30, 2020, 10:50 PM

32. Well stated. Thanks for posting this. nt

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 05:20 AM

33. marking to return to

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 05:22 AM

34. KnR...

Thank you this is important information political fence-sitters need to know.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 09:46 AM

37. KNR for this important reminder.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:00 AM

38. I'm amazed at how composed he was considering he was debating an air horn.

I don't even have a speech disability and I would have completely lost my train of thought and ability to do much more than sputter obscenities.

Of course that was trump's strategy, his handlers wanted him to rattle Joe so he'd stutter and then they could mock him.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:01 AM

39. this

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:29 AM

40. tax cheato was trying to trigger him to stutter.

 

that was the whole point of the interruptions.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 10:52 AM

41. Thanks for posting...K and R.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Oct 1, 2020, 12:02 PM

43. I never even knew he stuttered until this year

And I listened to all of the Bork and Thomas confirmation hearings when he was chair of the Judiciary Committee.

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