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Thu Oct 15, 2020, 08:12 PM

Fascism: As Polling Turns Against Him, Trump Lays Groundwork For Mass Violence

'Fascism: As polling turns against him, Trump lays groundwork for mass violence.' By Hunter, Daily Kos, 10/15/20.

- Fascists.

Rattled by poor polling numbers in his reelection bid, the alleged president of the United States is encouraging domestic terrorism. That's where we're at, and everyone from top national security experts to local emergency officials are all crystal clear on that. The New York Times reports from a bunch of 'em in a piece that can both contain remarkable factual phrases like "Mr. Trump has descended into rants about perceived enemies" and still somehow soft sell the underlying message:
The nation is preparing for violence on and after Election Day because Donald J. Trump, a fascist, is goading his supporters into that violence with rally claims that any loss on his part will be proof that his enemies cheated.

There is no possible chance that Trump doesn't know what he's doing. His tweeted calls to "LIBERATE" states from governors who imposed widespread pandemic measures resulted in a Michigan militia attempting to do exactly that. Trump is back at it even today, claiming their primary target, Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, "wants to be a dictator." He is attaching the legitimacy of the state to calls for mob action—only to repeat those calls when it looks like the first versions are beginning to bear fruit.

The only reason he is not being treated as a radical, dangerous figure who has irreparably violated his own oath of office, necessitating removal, is because Republican Party leadership and lawmakers have themselves embraced and defended those violations. It is self-radicalizing; the farther Trump goes into overtly authoritarian behavior, the more pressure the party feels to defend and normalize their own support for him. The more Trump's circle has succeeded in isolating and excising state and local functionaries who express alarm at his grotesqueries, the more the party has become a homogenized group of anti-democracy, authoritarian-molded radicals themselves.

Trump has clearly been unfit for office in every respect; the impeachment investigation identified his corruption, the pandemic proved his apathetic incompetence, and his continued calls for mob justice against targeted enemies have proven (as have similar quotes repeated through the last five years) that he is not just indifferent to extralegal punishments of his enemies, but publicly fantasizes about them. If Vice President Mike Pence, Sen. Mitch McConnell, Attorney General William Barr, Treasury Sec. Steve Mnuchin, Sec. of State Mike Pompeo, Rep. Mark Meadows, Sen. Lindsey Graham, Sen. Ted Cruz, and the entire rest of the party had not all decided to ally with him for their own ideological and policy ends, he would have been removed in bipartisan fashion long ago, reduced to a historical footnote.

They didn't, and now local law enforcement officials around the country are preparing for radicals among what Trump has proudly designated his "Army" intent on disrupting Election Day, sabotaging ballot-counting measures, and committing acts of coordinated terrorism targeting his opponents. It's now expected...


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appalachiablue Oct 15 OP
RKP5637 Oct 15 #1
appalachiablue Oct 15 #2
RKP5637 Oct 16 #3
not_the_one Oct 16 #4
appalachiablue Oct 16 #6
DavidDvorkin Oct 16 #5

Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 08:15 PM

1. Trump should/will eventually be tried as a domestic terrorist if/as he continues. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 15, 2020, 08:35 PM

2. Given we survive as a nation and things go in that direction.

We are in dangerous waters..

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #2)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 10:36 AM

3. I think this is possibly the worst this nation has ever experienced. No other president has tried to

take the nation down and basically recruited/ok'ed armed people within the nation to assist him if needed. ... plus had a major US political party support him, plus foreign players. I still think many Americans still don't quite grasp what is going on with this guy. In many countries he would have been dragged out by his ear by now. What is amazing is the GOP still backs this guy even with many republicans now realizing he is dangerous and really a bad egg. It is a total WTF, and especially Moscow Mitch!!!

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 11:37 AM

4. It looks like we are going to experience some real "participatory" democracy.


Buckle your seat belts...

Hopefully the win will be large enough on Tuesday that there can be no question, and Putin's manipulations would be futile, and aren't implemented.

But if it isn't, if it is close enough for the Putin voting programs to kick in yet he STILL loses, things could get nasty, fast.

The win may be so large that any manipulation of votes would be glaringly obvious, yet his "army" would take that as a signal to get things started. They would point to the discrepancy as proof of OUR cheating, when it was actually THEIR cheating that created the discrepancy. The turd's "projection" writ large.

If he manages to get it before the Supreme Court, and the court gives it to him with a margin only possible by the packing of the court with Barrett, there will be outright dismissal of their opinion by the majority of the populace. Bush v Gore was, as was stated at the time, a one time exception, NOT to be looked at as setting precedent. Another get nasty, fast, scenario.

The best case scenario is that Biden wins in a blue tsunami, along with enough down ballot flips from red to blue, that we gain control of all three branches.

Then Biden MUST do what HAS to be done, and wreak holy vengeance on every participant, large or small, that allowed or enabled this clusterfuck to occur. Biden must insist that state democratic legislatures implement legislative changes that would prohibit forever the possibility of gerrymandering.

Once that is done there should be enough democratic state legislatures to address the electoral college. Either we actually have the tenet of one person, one vote, or we don't, and we should get rid of that misleading canard.

If, after all our WINNING Biden doesn't address the accountability issue, and the states don't address the gerrymandering issue, THAT will be the destruction of the democratic party.

edit in bold, changed "parties" to "legislatures"

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Response to not_the_one (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:09 PM

6. Excellent points and post, thanks. We are in very serious times,

peril even. You can feel the tension, but we must stay strong and build a better course..

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2020, 02:05 PM

5. It worked for Adolf.

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