Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:54 PM
LymphocyteLover (1,295 posts)
America's Problem is That (over 50% of) White People Want It to Be a Failed State...Last edited Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:11 AM - Edit history (1)
Because they keep voting for Republicans.
Hard to argue with the logic in this piece: White Americans can be relied on, in the majority, as a group, to “vote Republican.” I put it in quotes because it’s worth examining what that anodyne statement really means. Liberal, sane, thoughtful White Americans often overestimate how many of them there are, how widespread their cause is. The result is that when I say “Americans are…” meaning of course the majority, which is still white, I get a wave of protest. Americans aren’t dumb! Americans aren’t dumb! They’re not violent, stupid racists! They want to live in a modern society! Are they, do they — at least the white majority? Let’s take a brief and hard look at reality. https://eand.co/americas-problem-is-that-white-people-want-it-to-be-a-failed-state-bac24202f32f
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LymphocyteLover | Nov 5 | OP |
msongs | Nov 5 | #1 | |
Thekaspervote | Nov 5 | #2 | |
LymphocyteLover | Nov 5 | #6 | |
CountAllVotes | Nov 5 | #7 | |
Just_Vote_Dem | Nov 5 | #3 | |
eppur_se_muova | Nov 5 | #13 | |
CountAllVotes | Nov 5 | #4 | |
LymphocyteLover | Nov 5 | #9 | |
rzemanfl | Nov 5 | #5 | |
bullimiami | Nov 5 | #8 | |
MomInTheCrowd | Nov 5 | #10 | |
LymphocyteLover | Nov 5 | #11 | |
Atticus | Nov 5 | #12 | |
appalachiablue | Nov 6 | #14 | |
Hestia | Nov 6 | #15 | |
LymphocyteLover | Nov 6 | #18 | |
MicaelS | Nov 6 | #16 | |
ancianita | Nov 6 | #17 | |
LymphocyteLover | Nov 6 | #19 | |
ancianita | Nov 6 | #20 | |
LymphocyteLover | Nov 6 | #22 | |
LymphocyteLover | Nov 6 | #23 | |
ancianita | Nov 6 | #25 | |
Buckeye_Democrat | Nov 6 | #21 | |
LymphocyteLover | Nov 6 | #24 | |
RussBLib | Nov 6 | #26 |
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:55 PM
msongs (58,759 posts)
1. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. nt
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:56 PM
Thekaspervote (16,894 posts)
2. True..but not all of us!
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #2)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:58 PM
LymphocyteLover (1,295 posts)
6. Yes, obviously not a huge number of white folks, but the majority are
still pretty fucked up politically
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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #2)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:58 PM
CountAllVotes (19,191 posts)
7. +1
The author is writing about their own reality.
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:56 PM
Just_Vote_Dem (1,122 posts)
3. Lyndon Johnson said it many years ago:
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Reply #3)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:28 PM
eppur_se_muova (32,394 posts)
13. And LBJ was way too right re. many of our neighbors here in the South. nt
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:57 PM
CountAllVotes (19,191 posts)
4. Sounds like the author has a problem
Talking about him/her self is ye?
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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #4)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:59 PM
LymphocyteLover (1,295 posts)
9. the author is a brown dude
umair haque
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:57 PM
rzemanfl (28,157 posts)
5. K&R. n/t
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:58 PM
bullimiami (10,916 posts)
8. dumbfucks. they want a failed state until it fails them. then theyll be crying.
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:01 PM
MomInTheCrowd (90 posts)
10. Fund AM progressive radio
There is basically 0 out there
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Response to MomInTheCrowd (Reply #10)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:04 PM
LymphocyteLover (1,295 posts)
11. yes, we really need this!
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:07 PM
Atticus (9,842 posts)
12. Such ridiculous stereotyping and exaggeration to criticize any particular race or demographic
legitimizes the tactic for use against all others.
Not at all helpful. |
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 12:31 AM
appalachiablue (29,551 posts)
14. Build progressive radio & more to try to balance US media giants.
Umair's articles are brilliant, the case he makes is strong. But I think this is a mighty wide brush re the current atmosphere especially.
Plenty of white people are working to preserve our democracy and advance social and economic fairness, equality and progressive policies. This could have been pointed out. |
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 09:05 AM
Hestia (3,329 posts)
15. No. Stop it. This is how Dem's were divided in 2009 on - picking sides
Blue Dawgs, et al. Quit looking at skin color and come to the table to work on problems together. It's articles like this that the Putin Party picks up on and use as a wedge to divide us.
No. Just No. |
Response to Hestia (Reply #15)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:09 AM
LymphocyteLover (1,295 posts)
18. It's not about dividng Dems at all! it's about who we need to win over somehow
Did you read the piece?
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:04 AM
MicaelS (8,495 posts)
16. I am a 63 yr old white male.
This piece is spot on.
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:08 AM
ancianita (21,022 posts)
17. Sorry, but as an antiracist, I have to say that you
have racially tarnished a majority of white people, not just white Democrats.
You need to rethink your sweeping proclamation. |
Response to ancianita (Reply #17)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:10 AM
LymphocyteLover (1,295 posts)
19. it's the title of the piece and I didn't write it!
I put it here for discussion.
I will edit the title, though since clearly it is bothering people. |
Response to LymphocyteLover (Reply #19)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:23 AM
ancianita (21,022 posts)
20. Okay, cool. We often don't pass along
sweeping bigoted arguments.
A common sense look at numbers can smash this argument and give factual grounding to any discussion of white racism. Start with the 250,200,000 white pop. total used by Statista, then subtract the Trump vote total, and then we can make more sense of white racism. |
Response to ancianita (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:48 PM
LymphocyteLover (1,295 posts)
22. I don't know-- silence is complicity
Fact is the US, run predominantly by white people, has a very troubled history on race.
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Response to ancianita (Reply #20)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:56 PM
LymphocyteLover (1,295 posts)
23. the piece says it's something unique about most whites in America
and I do think we can overcome this issue-- just need to break the code
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Response to LymphocyteLover (Reply #23)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 02:04 PM
ancianita (21,022 posts)
25. Agree.
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 11:25 AM
Buckeye_Democrat (10,300 posts)
21. Too many white people think they don't NEED government.
Other than the military, police and laws to protect their property.
It was the white voters earning more than $100,000 a year who mostly voted for Trump again. If government-supported infrastructure is allowed to keep failing, they'll act clueless about how it happened and blame government again. |
Response to Buckeye_Democrat (Reply #21)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 01:57 PM
LymphocyteLover (1,295 posts)
24. yeah, it's bonkers
Response to LymphocyteLover (Original post)
Fri Nov 6, 2020, 04:09 PM
RussBLib (4,403 posts)
26. More like 25-30% of white people
Still far too high
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