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sl8 Nov 24 OP
no_hypocrisy Nov 24 #1
sl8 Nov 24 #6
SCantiGOP Nov 24 #7
SomedayKindaLove Nov 24 #2
NCjack Nov 24 #3
chriscan64 Nov 24 #5
mn9driver Nov 24 #4
dalton99a Nov 24 #8
Zorro Nov 24 #9

Response to sl8 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 06:47 AM

1. All the above is accurate and I'm speaking from experience.

Show all your cards at trial or risk losing any chance of presenting evidence in the future.

You can hope that the Appellate Court will allow "new evidence," but it better be REALLY NEW, i.e., it didn't exist or it wasn't discovered at the time of trial.

I've tried for a Reconsideration (of evidence presented at trial) with a return to trial. That's even harder.

Once you're in Appellate Court, all you can essentially debate is the law and procedure. Facts are essentially recorded in stone.

There is the possibility that your case could have prevailed with the additional evidence at trial, but you failed to make it available for consideration. And you could be looking at a friendly new case of legal malpractice by your client.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 11:55 AM

7. The only exception is the rare Perry Mason moment

That is when a new witness or piece of evidence comes out after the first trial, but you have to show that you had no way to introduce that in the original trial. And then it just goes back to the original judge to see if they will declare a mistrial.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:20 AM

2. "Trump isn't playing 3D chess.

Hes eating the pieces. Joe Scarborough

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:16 AM

3. Trump got the attorneys he deserved. Lesson learned: pay your bills

or suffer fools.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:10 AM

5. Very true.

But also at play is the inevitable outcome due to no existing evidence to support the case. Just that weeds out most reputable attorneys. There may be a small handful of lawyers willing to play Don Quixote for a large fee, but like you say he doesn't even make good on payments so the field narrows to Rudy et al.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:30 AM

4. The Trump Cult is filled with people who think that withholding evidence

so it can be revealed at just the right time, is an actual legal strategy. Im not a lawyer, but even I know that isnt a thing. These people live in a strange world that isnt shared by the rest of us.

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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 12:15 PM

8. Trump University School of Law


Keep your best evidence - and your best witnesses - for the Supreme Court


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Response to sl8 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:43 PM

9. Rudy thinks he's fucking Perry Mason

Perry Moron is more like it.

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