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Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:10 PM

Prominent evangelicals are directing Trump's sinking ship. That feeds doubts about religion.

Opinion by Michael Gerson

President Trump’s naked attempt to overturn a fair election — with key elements of Joe Biden’s victory vouchsafed by Republican state officials, Republican-appointed judges and even the Justice Department — has driven some Trump evangelicals to the edge of blasphemous lunacy.

“I’d be happy to die in this fight,” radio talk-show host Eric Metaxas assured Trump during a recent interview. “This is a fight for everything. God is with us. Jesus is with us in this fight for liberty.”

Elsewhere Metaxas predicted, “Trump will be inaugurated. For the high crimes of trying to throw a U.S. presidential election, many will go to jail. The swamp will be drained. And Lincoln’s prophetic words of ‘a new birth of freedom’ will be fulfilled. Pray.”

Just to be clear, Metaxas has publicly committed his life to Donald Trump, claimed that at least two members of the Trinity favor a coup against the constitutional order, endorsed the widespread jailing of Trump’s political enemies for imaginary crimes, claimed Abraham Lincoln’s blessing for the advance of authoritarianism and urged Christians to pray to God for the effective death of American democracy. This is seditious and sacrilegious in equal measure.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/prominent-evangelicals-are-directing-trumps-sinking-ship-that-feeds-doubts-about-religion/2020/12/07/5ad8eb0c-38c3-11eb-9276-ae0ca72729be_story.html

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Reply Prominent evangelicals are directing Trump's sinking ship. That feeds doubts about religion. (Original post)
Zorro Dec 2020 OP
keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #1
C_U_L8R Dec 2020 #2
Blue Owl Dec 2020 #3
ouija Dec 2020 #4
Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #5
BlueWavePsych Dec 2020 #6
AZ8theist Dec 2020 #7
Mazeltov Cocktail Dec 2020 #13
AZ8theist Dec 2020 #15
LiberalLovinLug Dec 2020 #8
keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #11
llashram Dec 2020 #9
keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #10
SunSeeker Dec 2020 #12
keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #14
AZ8theist Dec 2020 #16
SunSeeker Dec 2020 #17
AZ8theist Dec 2020 #18
SunSeeker Dec 2020 #19
czarjak Dec 2020 #20

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:13 PM

1. Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:13 PM

2. Flock fleecers

Yeah they're awful con-men ripping off millions. But the suckers who willfully fall for this shit and support these crooks really deserve all the blame.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:18 PM

3. If they wanna die for Diarrhea Donny, then I say let them chase their liquid dreams

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:18 PM

4. Funny, God told me she was on our side.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:21 PM

5. This kind of religion is not about Christianity or any other REAL belief system

The EVILGELICALS need to be exposed for what they are!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 12:48 PM

6. Science must make a comeback.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 01:23 PM

7. What will satisfy these assholes??

10 million dead?
50 million??
100 million?????
Following someone, who OBVIOUSLY isn't a Christian, to the death is just plain stupid.
And hypocritical beyond belief.

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 08:40 PM

13. And theoretically, don't christians want to die to be with their jesus?

I was raised Catholic and have been in recovery for years - I don't have much of a grip on this evangelical, rapture, speaking in tongues, pass me a venomous snake and take all my money religion.

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Response to Mazeltov Cocktail (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 09:09 PM

15. If that were true...

If they ACTUALLY believed that nonsense, then why do they cry and are saddened when a loved one dies?
You would think they would be overjoyed at a loved one's death.
And if you can't wait to meet Hey Sooos, why not suicide?
It's all BS.....

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 03:02 PM

8. Trump has forever stained the Evangelical Christian name

They used to be regarded as a harmless sect. They were a minority, although a strong united one. Then the church wasn't enough, and they wanted power. So along came Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson. And others. All pro Republican of course. They helped seal down that if you call yourself a Christian, you MUST vote Republican. Mostly because of abortion rights, and gay marriage.

Every mega TV star evangelist scam artist after that piggybanked off of that, politicizing their churches into Republican recruitment centers. They concentrate on abortion, as killing of a life, which is not even mentioned in the Bible, but ignore most of Jesus's teachings about loving your enemies, turning the other cheek, Helping the poor, the rich having to go through the eye of a needle to get into heaven, and chasing the merchants out of the temple.

The new "Prosperity Gospel" was born. The richer you are, the closer to God. And visa versa. Trump, thought to be a successful billionaire, passed the test for them. Really, they just recognized his popular appeal, and that he'd say anything. And that if they promised him their vote, and adoration, he'd do almost anything they asked, including appointing conservative anti-abortion judges.

Works out perfect for a corrupt GOP. Because for them, appointing conservative judges is NOT about abortion at all. Its that they would also be pro-business. They'd be biased towards the "job creator" over any case vs. the people.

They may be the only group that actually "won" during Trump's presidency. hundreds of right wing judges appointed, including their shiny new cult member Amy Coney Barrett. But all that winning is going to backfire in that they will forever be saddled with their capitulation to Trump and by association, Trump's behaviour and criminality.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 05:49 PM

11. Another group also "won" with Trump and bragged about it.

Another group also "won" with Trump and bragged about it.

"It turns out that United Russia won the elections in America," Viktor Nazarov, the governor of Omsk, Russia, declared in a radio interview.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/world/make-russia-great-again-if-trump-lifts-sanctions-putin-could-finally-establish-his-country-as-an-equal-to-u-s&pubdate=2016-12-03

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 05:15 PM

9. these are not

Christians. They say they are, but actually, they have just co-opted the name. False prophets all...

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 05:46 PM

10. The pros should do their job.

The pros should do their job.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 08:38 PM

12. Yes, why isn't Osteen outside of an ER laying hands on Covid patients?

He doesn't even need to enter the ER. Here in Orange County, CA, Covid-19 patients are sitting in the parking lot for 12 hours waiting to be allowed to check in at overwhelmed ERs.

There is a 12 hour wait at Mssion Hospital and Hoag Hospital had 1 ICU bed available yesterday. Mission and Saddleback Hospitals are not receiving any ambulances right now. Mission is walk in only.

If you call an ambulance right now, it might not even come.

But Orange County Republicans still won't wear masks and are busy with their petitions to recall Governor Newsom for having the nerve to issue stay at home orders and not letting OC mega-churches have their big services.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 08:45 PM

14. Pat Robertson has claimed to heal people through the television set.

Pat Robertson has claimed to heal people through the television set.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 09:37 PM

16. You really need an answer to that question??

Osteen is one of the slimiest frauds out there....

Had to be shamed into opening his church for hurricane victims. What an asshole.

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 10:29 PM

17. It was a rhetorical question. I know these scumbags are all frauds.

They don't even believe in Jesus. If they did, they wouldn't lie. So obviously they don't believe there is a Hell.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

18. It was the rhetorical of all rhetoricals.....spot on.

If Jesus ever came back, these same people would call him a liberal commie homo radical baby killer.

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Response to AZ8theist (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 8, 2020, 10:42 PM

19. Thanks. They're like Trump, just making money off the rubes. nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Wed Dec 9, 2020, 07:04 AM

20. Coming from Michael Gerson? HAHAHAHAHAHA.....

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