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Fri Dec 25, 2020, 03:04 PM

A basic fact about Trump is now clear

The behavior and rhetoric of Donald Trump and his most ardent partisans since he was defeated for re-election have brought into sharp focus a fact that has lurked in the background since the day he became a candidate in the 2016 presidential election: Trumpism is a specifically American iteration of generic fascism.

Before anyone gets their knickers in a knot, I am not suggesting Trumpism is akin to Nazism or even to Italian Fascism with a capital F. But it does check most, although not all, of the boxes outlined in Robert O. Paxtonís authoritative The Anatomy of Fascism, a work untainted by Trump Derangement Syndrome, having been published long before Trump traded in Howard Stern for Sean Hannity.

Trumpism is palingenetic, meaning its core myth is of a rebirth, of the redemption of an idealized nation of Real Americans from the decadence and corruption, cultural and political, of effete liberal elites and malevolent socialists. The Make America Great Again mantra perfectly captures the palingenetic nature of Trumpism, as does draining the swamp and other tropes of purification and renewal. Palingenetic myth is a central pillar of generic fascism.

Trumpism is a classic fascist cult of personality, complete with fervid rallies for the gobsmacked faithful, public bootlicking by obsequious lackeys and hagiographic creations of a Trump legend from the tawdry dross of his actual life. Largely devoid of substantive content and, as a result, unsuited to actual governing, Trumpism is sustained by political theater, whether in the form of flag-waving boat parades or manufactured crises like border invasions.

https://www.tampabay.com/opinion/2020/12/24/a-basic-fact-about-trump-is-now-clear-column/

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Reply A basic fact about Trump is now clear (Original post)
Zorro Dec 2020 OP
Thomas Hurt Dec 2020 #1
KPN Dec 2020 #4
Cosmocat Dec 2020 #16
Wellstone ruled Dec 2020 #2
Thomas Hurt Dec 2020 #7
Wellstone ruled Dec 2020 #10
StClone Dec 2020 #22
Arne Dec 2020 #3
KPN Dec 2020 #5
KS Toronado Dec 2020 #9
KPN Dec 2020 #11
czarjak Dec 2020 #25
Skittles Dec 2020 #6
Pantagruel Dec 2020 #8
Lock him up. Dec 2020 #14
wnylib Dec 2020 #15
paleotn Dec 2020 #18
bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #12
Joinfortmill Dec 2020 #13
paleotn Dec 2020 #17
usaf-vet Dec 2020 #19
Tiger8 Dec 2020 #20
question everything Dec 2020 #21
StClone Dec 2020 #23
Botany Dec 2020 #24
lees1975 Dec 2020 #26
sellitman Dec 2020 #27

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 03:11 PM

1. Just so, Trump is a modern American christofascist.

Don't need to call him a nazi or or compare him to Hitler/Mussolini anymore. He has transcended historical comparisons and is an example all on his own.

I don't believe he is done yet either.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:03 PM

4. I tend to agree -- on both.

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 05:38 PM

16. Yep

The sooner people quit pussyfooting around it the better chance to beat it vack.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 03:13 PM

2. This past four years

 

has been just one big Grift. Diaper Don keeps the Con going as long as possible. This SOB has zero skill set to even be with in a Million Miles of any Governmental position.

PT Barnum and Dale Carnegie would be proud of their Student.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:29 PM

7. Isn't being a dictator the biggest grift of all...

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Response to Thomas Hurt (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:35 PM

10. Close,

 

but Dictator's as rule of thumb,die a brutal death.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 06:18 PM

22. Since we are a Country of Laws

The lawless will be get away with their life (even if their corruption parallels with historic villainy). If prosecuted they will bide time until its time to rejoin a new Republican maladministration of corruption.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 03:13 PM

3. You have made it Extra clear,

Thanx.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:16 PM

5. tRump is absolutely not done as Mac Stipanovich

so perfectly explained. Bidenís inauguration and residency in the WH wonít happen until it happens. A lot of ground between here and there. The a-hole is intent and so are some of his elected supporters. We arenít out of the woods yet.

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Response to KPN (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:34 PM

9. No, we're not out of the woods yet and some trumpers are already peeking around the trees

they're hiding behind. God help us until Jan 20th, we know the republicans will not.

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Response to KS Toronado (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:41 PM

11. Nashville ...

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Response to KPN (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 08:52 PM

25. Tennessee... Klan Birthplace! Turned Dairies?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:25 PM

6. and over 74 MILLION Americans were A-OK with this

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:30 PM

8. "over 74 MILLION Americans were A-OK with this"

Scary!!!

We have an incredibly stupid citizenry liberally sprinkled with misogynists and racists. The only solution is convincing more reasonable citizens to vote them into insignificance, those minds won't be changed.

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Response to Pantagruel (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:52 PM

14. Yeah, but "some of them" are Really "violently" dangerous...

And they don't care.

They want to be seen as Real-life Batman-movies vilains.

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Response to Pantagruel (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 05:00 PM

15. Pardon the comparison, but

Hitler got enough votes to negotiate a coalition government, which he then took over. And Austrians overwhelmingly supported the Anschluss.

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Response to Pantagruel (Reply #8)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 05:41 PM

18. Pre WWII America....

and the UK had a significant number of outright fascists and their apologists. They filled Madison Square Garden in the 30's for a rally.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:44 PM

12. not generic while loaded with racism /nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 04:48 PM

13. Yup.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 05:38 PM

17. Nazism is the logical extension of fascism....

if left to its own devices.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 05:41 PM

19. Very interesting analysis of how we got here. Could we have volume two. How do we get "home".

Is there a road "HOME"? How long is the trip? Is the starting point on January 20, 2021?

Let each reader substitute whatever words replace "HOME" for them.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 05:41 PM

20. I would make just one request of any critic...

Please make an argument that Trump and his followers are not fascists.

I'll wait...

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 05:42 PM

21. When there is a column it helps to identify the author: Mac Stipanovich

A former activist in the Florida Republican party, including "helped advise then-Secretary of State of Florida, Katherine Harris."

But was disgusted by Trump and the Party and last year switched to Democrat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_Stipanovich

As for the op-ed: "redemption of an idealized nation of Real Americans from the decadence and corruption,"

Trump is the poster boy of decadence and corruption. But then, no one ever expected most Republicans, nor his supporters to follow logic and reason.



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Response to question everything (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 06:29 PM

23. Rs moving to Ds

But what took them so long and isn't it fair to question their acuity? I was a Conservative by family extension in my early twenties 40 years ago and saw Republicans were headed to hell. By any reading, any humanity, and any knowledge of history being a Republican, by design, is an ever increasing toxic goal.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Dec 25, 2020, 08:44 PM

24. One thing you forgot .... Reagan got rid of the "Fairness Doctrine" and for the past 2.5 ....

.... generations we have had a huge # of Americans bathed in misinformation. But always
remember we have won the popular vote in 7 of the last 8 general elections and the one time we
didn't it was 2004 and that election was muy muy dirty. We are the majority.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 01:10 AM

26. I know the boundaries of comparison in this area

but that shouldn't prevent a fair and honest look at what this is. Much of what we are seeing is due to the failure of public education to achieve academic standards that push critical thinking and do anything more than turn out generations of overstimulated techies who can't think for themselves. There's too much prosperity, too many things to have. Achievement standards are lowered, as are expectations for kids learning. The end result of public education isn't the preservation of an informed electorate.

Having heard the slogans and seen the outstretched hands at Trump rallies, this should be called out for what it really is.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Sat Dec 26, 2020, 11:43 AM

27. Here is your article on steroids

Spot on.

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