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sarchasm

(1,012 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:34 AM Feb 2021

The Insurrection Was Put Down. The GOP Plan for Minority Rule Marches On.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/01/the-insurrection-was-put-down-the-gop-plan-for-minority-rule-marches-on/?fbclid=IwAR38tXGd9R0VB9bd9rOoK2qQ9ys67CZcq9MVrNdUy3ROamqROd8s67rcNnM

via @AriBerman
• Senators voting to impeach represent 61.6% of the population. (202,119,286 people)
• Senators voting against represent 38.2% of the population. (125,414,488 people)
• Senators voting for impeachment represent 76.7 million more people than senators voting against

“The only way to reverse minority rule is through big structural reforms like abolishing Electoral College, eliminating filibuster, ending partisan gerrymandering, enshrining right to vote in Constitution & giving statehood to Washington DC & Puerto Rico”

End the filibuster and Pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act & For The People Act.
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The Insurrection Was Put Down. The GOP Plan for Minority Rule Marches On. (Original Post) sarchasm Feb 2021 OP
Every Republican with a microphone stuck in his/her face should be asked about this. ariadne0614 Feb 2021 #1
Amen to that. ⬆⬆ 👍 Duppers Feb 2021 #2
They know and don't care Freddie Feb 2021 #7
Exactly. That's why it's such a heavy lift.... paleotn Feb 2021 #11
Nevertheless, I want to see them squirm. n/t ariadne0614 Feb 2021 #13
And there first reply will be... paleotn Feb 2021 #10
Nevertheless, I want to see them squirm. n/t ariadne0614 Feb 2021 #15
To many repubs the 3/5's rule makes sense... Sancho Feb 2021 #12
Very true, and I want them to be relentlessly called out. ariadne0614 Feb 2021 #16
Even if we were going by population, My Pet Orangutan Feb 2021 #3
Excellent!! DUer Freddie also posted great points... Duppers Feb 2021 #4
Support the National Democratic Redistricting Committee and Erick Holder Tender hopper Feb 2021 #5
A 1000 R's! Duppers Feb 2021 #6
I think we blew it James48 Feb 2021 #8
The last two are the first steps.... paleotn Feb 2021 #9
Kick dalton99a Feb 2021 #14
Amen judesedit Feb 2021 #17
yeah and I will add llashram Feb 2021 #18
Good points but Senators don't vote to impeach, they vote to convict. CaptainTruth Feb 2021 #19
Thanks for the clarification. sarchasm Feb 2021 #20
We have the power, if our majority in Congress will only get it done now. Grasswire2 Feb 2021 #21

ariadne0614

(1,708 posts)
1. Every Republican with a microphone stuck in his/her face should be asked about this.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:55 AM
Feb 2021

I want to know how they justify the fact that they've been rigging the system to impose minority rule over the vast majority of Americans.

Freddie

(9,258 posts)
7. They know and don't care
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 09:58 AM
Feb 2021

They do not care one bit that the MAJORITY of Americans don’t want what they’re selling. They don’t have to. Tyranny of the minority is baked into the Constitution and I wish there was a way to get rid of it. Catch-22: we can’t end tyranny of the minority precisely because of tyranny of the minority (2/3 of states needed for a Constitutional amendment, the filibuster, etc).

paleotn

(17,901 posts)
11. Exactly. That's why it's such a heavy lift....
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:38 AM
Feb 2021

but in my mind, for the Republic to survive, we've got to at least try to eliminate our founder's mistakes.

paleotn

(17,901 posts)
10. And there first reply will be...
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:35 AM
Feb 2021

"Our system was wisely constructed to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority." I've heard it many times. Tyranny. The only thing these people know about tyranny is how to impose it. No. Unfair apportionment of congressional seats in any way, shape or form is undemocratic. Period. Full stop. If you don't like the will of the majority, than convince more people you're right. Otherwise, shut the hell up. Tyranny? The Bill of Rights protects them from that, NOT the Senate OR the Electoral College. Those are gross errors made by the founders by compromising with those who didn't particularly like representative democracy.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
12. To many repubs the 3/5's rule makes sense...
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:45 AM
Feb 2021

...they would likely restrict minority, women, etc. from voting at all if they could. The power and decisions of the GOP are racists, male, and privileged.

ariadne0614

(1,708 posts)
16. Very true, and I want them to be relentlessly called out.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:56 AM
Feb 2021

I’m sick of allowing them to find any comfort in their bigotry.

My Pet Orangutan

(9,219 posts)
3. Even if we were going by population,
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 09:26 AM
Feb 2021

there were not Senators representing 66.7% of the population voting for impeachment.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
4. Excellent!! DUer Freddie also posted great points...
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 09:30 AM
Feb 2021

Copied from Freddie's post:

Tyranny of the minority, yet again
It’s baked in to all our institutions with seemingly no way out.

2/3 vote of the Senate needed for justice

2/3 vote of states for a Constitutional amendment

The filibuster

The Electoral College

The very nature of the senate which gives way outsized power to rural areas.

Gerrymandering

Voter suppression, which is now going to get a lot worse

Here again the MINORITY of the people are gloating they “won” and can continue inflicting this monster on the MAJORITY with apparently no consequences.



Found in this thread:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10023016


James48

(4,429 posts)
8. I think we blew it
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:18 AM
Feb 2021

When we changed the Constitution to require direct election of US Senators.

Prior to the 17th Amendment, the states got to decide how their Senators were selected. The Federalist papers described Senators as senior legislators who would not be directly influenced by the voters of the state.

We were trying to fix something else when we passed the 17th amendment, and we screwed up.

paleotn

(17,901 posts)
9. The last two are the first steps....
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:23 AM
Feb 2021

The others are much heavier lifts. However, they are a very good blueprint for a multi election cycle, probably multi decade movement to point our government back towards fulfilling our creed and our national promise.

CaptainTruth

(6,582 posts)
19. Good points but Senators don't vote to impeach, they vote to convict.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 11:45 AM
Feb 2021

Representatives (in the House) vote to impeach, & Senators don't get to vote on it.

I really wish the "experts" would get the basic process correct.

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