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MissMillie

(38,549 posts)
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 11:08 AM Jul 2021

Citizens, Not the State, Will Enforce New Abortion Law in Texas



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/citizens-not-the-state-will-enforce-new-abortion-law-in-texas/ar-AALXi9d?li=BBnb7Kz

The result is a law that is extremely difficult to challenge before it takes effect on Sept. 1, because it is hard to know whom to sue to block it, and lawyers for clinics are now wrestling with what to do about it. Six-week bans in other states have all been blocked as they make their way through the court system.


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More than just a little scary.
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pwb

(11,261 posts)
1. Sounds like something from Texas.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 11:23 AM
Jul 2021

It seems they need to pay more attention to who they run for office.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
3. The article at the link deserves a snip.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jul 2021
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/citizens-not-the-state-will-enforce-new-abortion-law-in-texas/ar-AALXi9d?li=BBnb7Kz

snip...

The provision passed the Texas State Legislature this spring as part of a bill that bans abortion after a doctor detects a fetal heartbeat, usually at about six weeks of pregnancy. Many states have passed such bans, but the law in Texas is different.

Ordinarily, enforcement would be up to government officials, and if clinics wanted to challenge the law’s constitutionality, they would sue those officials in making their case. But the law in Texas prohibits officials from enforcing it. Instead, it takes the opposite approach, effectively deputizing ordinary citizens — including from outside Texas — to sue clinics and others who violate the law. It awards them at least $10,000 per illegal abortion if they are successful.


niyad

(113,259 posts)
5. How, exactly, will private citizens do this? How will they gain access to medical records?
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 11:41 AM
Jul 2021

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CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
6. They won't
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 12:06 PM
Jul 2021

They will hear that a friend of a friend had an abortion or is about to get an abortion or is thinking about an abortion & the $10K incentive will turn this into a clusterfuck of unbelievablle proportions and women will be the ones who are harmed the most.

Maybe Texas should figure out how to keep the electricity on during extreme weather instead of sticking their noses up our uteruses.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
9. When I worked at a PP facility years ago the demonstrators were primarily there to get
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 05:35 PM
Jul 2021

hold of patients' records. They wanted phone numbers and addresses so the patient's home could be ransacked or at least harassed. Our biggest fear was that their privacy would be revealed in those documents and they'd show up at a patient's home to harass her. They had to know that these patients would be in great danger in some places. It was cruel and vicious and all done in the name of the Lord.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
10. When my friends and I did our counter-protests at the local PP, I made a point of taking
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 06:49 PM
Jul 2021

down license plate numbers, very ostentatiously, or taking pictures of the cars and their owners. Not that I did anything with them. . . But the self-righteous, woman-hating gestational slavers did not know that.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
11. I did that too until our executive director made a rule: do not interact with the protesters.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 08:04 PM
Jul 2021

It's probably a good idea but I was in a rage against these self serving bastards.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
4. and the WAR ON WOMEN continues apace. Would you consider cross-posting this in
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jul 2021

Women's Rights And Issues? Thanks in advance.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
7. Pro-choice orgs should put vigilante wannabes on notice.
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 12:16 PM
Jul 2021

They'd better be damn sure tbeir lawsuits are letter perfect -- or pepare for countersuits that could leave them sleeping on park benches and eating out of dumpsters.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,921 posts)
8. How do the people filing suit have standing?
Fri Jul 9, 2021, 02:04 PM
Jul 2021

Doesn't sound like they will in spite of the Repuke lawmakers twisted logic.

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