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Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:21 AM

The Atlantic: Biden was Right

The president made a difficult but necessary choice.

By Daniel Silverberg

In 2017, I arrived at Kabul’s Hamid Karzai Airport as part of a congressional staff delegation. Even though the U.S. embassy stood a mere four miles away, safety concerns necessitated our helicoptering from a recently constructed multimillion-dollar transit facility instead of traveling by road. As we flew over Kabul, I realized that the Afghan security forces, backed by thousands of U.S. personnel, could not even secure the heart of Afghanistan’s capital.

Kabul was not lost yesterday; the United States and our Afghan partners never truly had control of the country, nor of its capital. Once the Taliban had secured an agreement that the United States would be pulling out and that forces would be reduced to minimal numbers before Joe Biden’s presidency began, they merely had to wait.

The dozens of congressional briefings I attended over 14 years of working on Capitol Hill underscored this dynamic. The intelligence community would commence each briefing with a stark assessment regarding the fragility of conditions in Afghanistan. Senior defense leaders would then provide a far more optimistic view, one that often gave a sense of progress, despite the Herculean challenge with which they had been tasked.  

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Some critics also argue that the United States should have preserved a residual force in Afghanistan, much as we have in South Korea. There are any number of ungoverned spaces today, however, which pose as great a threat, if not greater, to U.S. security as Afghanistan, and few are calling for U.S. deployments to those areas. There is a cost—financial and military—to tying forces down in a project that was ultimately doomed to fail.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/biden-afghanistan-taliban-reality/619776/

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CentralMass Aug 17 #1
J_William_Ryan Aug 17 #2
SunSeeker Aug 17 #3
DeeDeeNY Aug 17 #4
True Blue American Aug 17 #5
CentralMass Aug 17 #6
samsingh Aug 17 #8
IronLionZion Aug 17 #11
The Unmitigated Gall Aug 17 #7
XanaDUer2 Aug 17 #9
The Unmitigated Gall Aug 17 #10

Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 05:29 AM

1. Only time will tell.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:09 AM

2. Actually not - it was 'told' years ago.

The awful truth of Afghanistan is that it was a failed enterprise from the outset, a bad-faith contrivance of GWB seeking to ensure his reelection.

The notion of turning Afghanistan into another South Korea is as ridiculous as it is wrong – the immediate withdraw of all US military was the only decision and the correct decision, however difficult, however tragic.

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Response to J_William_Ryan (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:13 AM

3. Yup. nt

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Response to J_William_Ryan (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:15 AM

4. What you said +1

Doomed to failure from the start. Done for all the wrong reasons.

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Response to J_William_Ryan (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:20 AM

5. Agree!

Too many sects and war lords, each fighting for their share of the spoils.

The US gravy train has been stopped.

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Response to J_William_Ryan (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:59 AM

6. Of course it wasn't the only decision.. However it has already put the wheels of change in motion.

The Taliban has assumed control of the country and they have opened the prisons and let out some Al-Qaida members who had been imprisoned. Will terrorist groups bent on causing harm in the region or in Europe or in the US be given sanctuary there ? The Taliban has already started contacting female journalists etc.
Will their rule and new security situation allow us to stay out ? This is an organic situation. Hopefully the past history of human rights violations and terrorist groups being allowed to operate with impunity from the country will not occur again.

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Response to J_William_Ryan (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:38 PM

8. so do we just abandon the people there that were helping us?

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Response to J_William_Ryan (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:49 PM

11. Nobody knew what the mission was

because it never was defined clearly. The American people thought it was to fight the terrorists from 9/11, not to keep troops there for 2 decades, rebuild a failed state, destroy the Taliban, or anything like that.

The terrorists who hate America can be operating in other countries. In fact, Osama Bin Laden was found in neighboring Pakistan, 10 years after 9/11.

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Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:13 PM

7. Might be nice to see Obama step out

And give Joe a little cover on this, given the Orange Shitweasel’s (the clod who actually signed the surrender documents) attacks, as well as Shrub’s total silence on the shit-show he started.

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Response to The Unmitigated Gall (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:54 PM

9. bush tweeted

deep sadness.

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Response to XanaDUer2 (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 17, 2021, 02:17 PM

10. Yeah, saw that. Poor guy.

Must be crying into his paint set. (Snark, directed at ‘43)

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