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SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 04:21 AM Aug 2021

The Atlantic: Biden was Right

The president made a difficult but necessary choice.

By Daniel Silverberg

In 2017, I arrived at Kabul’s Hamid Karzai Airport as part of a congressional staff delegation. Even though the U.S. embassy stood a mere four miles away, safety concerns necessitated our helicoptering from a recently constructed multimillion-dollar transit facility instead of traveling by road. As we flew over Kabul, I realized that the Afghan security forces, backed by thousands of U.S. personnel, could not even secure the heart of Afghanistan’s capital.

Kabul was not lost yesterday; the United States and our Afghan partners never truly had control of the country, nor of its capital. Once the Taliban had secured an agreement that the United States would be pulling out and that forces would be reduced to minimal numbers before Joe Biden’s presidency began, they merely had to wait.

The dozens of congressional briefings I attended over 14 years of working on Capitol Hill underscored this dynamic. The intelligence community would commence each briefing with a stark assessment regarding the fragility of conditions in Afghanistan. Senior defense leaders would then provide a far more optimistic view, one that often gave a sense of progress, despite the Herculean challenge with which they had been tasked.  

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Some critics also argue that the United States should have preserved a residual force in Afghanistan, much as we have in South Korea. There are any number of ungoverned spaces today, however, which pose as great a threat, if not greater, to U.S. security as Afghanistan, and few are calling for U.S. deployments to those areas. There is a cost—financial and military—to tying forces down in a project that was ultimately doomed to fail.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/08/biden-afghanistan-taliban-reality/619776/

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The Atlantic: Biden was Right (Original Post) SunSeeker Aug 2021 OP
Only time will tell. CentralMass Aug 2021 #1
Actually not - it was 'told' years ago. J_William_Ryan Aug 2021 #2
Yup. nt SunSeeker Aug 2021 #3
What you said +1 DeeDeeNY Aug 2021 #4
Agree! True Blue American Aug 2021 #5
Of course it wasn't the only decision.. However it has already put the wheels of change in motion. CentralMass Aug 2021 #6
so do we just abandon the people there that were helping us? samsingh Aug 2021 #8
Nobody knew what the mission was IronLionZion Aug 2021 #11
Might be nice to see Obama step out The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2021 #7
bush tweeted XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #9
Yeah, saw that. Poor guy. The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2021 #10

J_William_Ryan

(1,753 posts)
2. Actually not - it was 'told' years ago.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 06:09 AM
Aug 2021

The awful truth of Afghanistan is that it was a failed enterprise from the outset, a bad-faith contrivance of GWB seeking to ensure his reelection.

The notion of turning Afghanistan into another South Korea is as ridiculous as it is wrong – the immediate withdraw of all US military was the only decision and the correct decision, however difficult, however tragic.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
5. Agree!
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:20 AM
Aug 2021

Too many sects and war lords, each fighting for their share of the spoils.

The US gravy train has been stopped.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
6. Of course it wasn't the only decision.. However it has already put the wheels of change in motion.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 09:59 AM
Aug 2021

The Taliban has assumed control of the country and they have opened the prisons and let out some Al-Qaida members who had been imprisoned. Will terrorist groups bent on causing harm in the region or in Europe or in the US be given sanctuary there ? The Taliban has already started contacting female journalists etc.
Will their rule and new security situation allow us to stay out ? This is an organic situation. Hopefully the past history of human rights violations and terrorist groups being allowed to operate with impunity from the country will not occur again.

IronLionZion

(45,432 posts)
11. Nobody knew what the mission was
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 07:49 PM
Aug 2021

because it never was defined clearly. The American people thought it was to fight the terrorists from 9/11, not to keep troops there for 2 decades, rebuild a failed state, destroy the Taliban, or anything like that.

The terrorists who hate America can be operating in other countries. In fact, Osama Bin Laden was found in neighboring Pakistan, 10 years after 9/11.

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,804 posts)
7. Might be nice to see Obama step out
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:13 PM
Aug 2021

And give Joe a little cover on this, given the Orange Shitweasel’s (the clod who actually signed the surrender documents) attacks, as well as Shrub’s total silence on the shit-show he started.

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