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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 01:38 PM Aug 2021

Democrats just launched a missile at the GOP's fortress of minority rule

Behind all the messy maneuvering in Congress right now is a hidden story: To an underappreciated degree, Democrats just launched a broadside against the edifice of minority rule that Republicans are busy constructing, in every way they possibly can, as a bulwark against our democratic future.

After House Democrats passed the $3.5 trillion blueprint to move the ”human infrastructure” bill’s process forward on Tuesday, they also passed the John R. Lewis Voting Rights Advancement Act.

Tucked inside that bill are provisions that take direct aim at minority rule, but not in an obvious way. We often talk about individual features of our system — voter suppression, extreme gerrymanders, the electoral college — as anti-majoritarian. But we don’t talk enough about how various features interlock to create anti-majoritarian structures that are more impregnable than the sum of their parts.

The Lewis act’s key provisions restore federal preclearance requirements for changes in voting rules, and make it easier to challenge discriminatory voter suppression measures, both responses to the Supreme Court’s gutting of the Voting Rights Act, in 2013 and this year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/08/25/democrats-just-launched-missile-gops-fortress-minority-rule/

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Democrats just launched a missile at the GOP's fortress of minority rule (Original Post) Zorro Aug 2021 OP
Won't the Kavanaugh Courts simply Miguelito Loveless Aug 2021 #1
If it can even pass in the senate...lots of Dems CousinIT Aug 2021 #2
Then WHITT Aug 2021 #3
We should be doing that now, and 15 justices Miguelito Loveless Aug 2021 #5
Filibuster qazplm135 Aug 2021 #8
minimum 13 justices, 1 per each federal circuit. RicROC Aug 2021 #18
offer kegger free beer for life & I guarantee ya you'll win all kind's of stuff !! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #9
It isn't spring. Magoo48 Aug 2021 #4
Anyone hear about the commission that Biden asked for about expanding the courts.... turbinetree Aug 2021 #6
I'd Like To See WHITT Aug 2021 #13
YES! Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #21
It won't get past the Senate left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #7
Hmmm.... Another silly idea.... mwooldri Aug 2021 #10
Recon still needs 50 votes + Kamala. Justice matters. Aug 2021 #11
But WHITT Aug 2021 #12
The infrastructure bill is a good bill and we absolutely need it...already passed the Senate. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #24
Once Again WHITT Aug 2021 #27
That is simply untrue and why moderates did what they did. As for modifying one line...Nancy Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #28
UH WHITT Aug 2021 #29
That's the "nuclear option" that at least two Democratic senators have rejected FBaggins Aug 2021 #23
Fired a blanki quakerboy Aug 2021 #14
i am also skeptical. nt BootinUp Aug 2021 #22
It's really just a PR effort FBaggins Aug 2021 #26
KnR Hekate Aug 2021 #15
"bill represents recognition that "the greatest threat to voting rights" may be SCOTUS. Hortensis Aug 2021 #16
Amen. Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #20
The problem will be to get it through the Senate. Martin68 Aug 2021 #17
One step closer. Next, the fillabuster. Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #19
Umhm. One step closer. Hortensis Aug 2021 #25

Miguelito Loveless

(4,460 posts)
1. Won't the Kavanaugh Courts simply
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 01:45 PM
Aug 2021

gut the Lewis Act as well, since it will be challenged as soon as implemented, if implemented?

CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
2. If it can even pass in the senate...lots of Dems
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 01:53 PM
Aug 2021

would rather cling to their goddamned filibuster, even as Democracy dies, than pass this or S1 For The People Act.

As I understand it, the John Lewis VRAA would prevent minority rule abuses going forward, and For The People Act would invalidate those laws being passed in the states to eliminate or suppress Democratic votes - so BOTH are needed.

Unfortunately DINO Manchin and a few others won't get off their goddamned filibusters to pass them.

Then the American-Taliban-stacked supreme court would strike them down.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,460 posts)
5. We should be doing that now, and 15 justices
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 02:48 PM
Aug 2021

We need to play hard ball like these people do, but we apparently don't have the will.

RicROC

(1,204 posts)
18. minimum 13 justices, 1 per each federal circuit.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:23 PM
Aug 2021

but I prefer a court of 19 with revolving terms. Maybe 13 Justices serve an X # of years, (16?) + 6 Justices who serve a much shorter time.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
13. I'd Like To See
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:14 PM
Aug 2021

Speaker Pelosi pass expansion of the SCOTUS to 13 justices, and just sit on it. Shot across the bow of the RightWing Gang of Six, that you can be taken down.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
10. Hmmm.... Another silly idea....
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 03:27 PM
Aug 2021

Attach the voting rights act to the reconciliation bill. Have Kamala override the parliamentarian. Whip all Democratic Senators to vote for it. Voila, filibuster technically not broken but circumvented.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
12. But
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 05:11 PM
Aug 2021

if Schumer ties the two bills together on one vote, if Machin & Sinema vote against the reconciliation bill, they vote against the Repub corporate bill.

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
27. Once Again
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 02:36 PM
Aug 2021
The infrastructure bill is a good bill...

It's not a "good bill", it's a Repub Corporate anti-worker anti-consumer bill.


...already passed the Senate.

But all the Speaker has to do is modify ONE line, and then it must go back to the Senate for another vote.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
28. That is simply untrue and why moderates did what they did. As for modifying one line...Nancy
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 05:21 PM
Aug 2021

Pelosi won't do that. She is way too smart. We will get infrastructure but we don't know if the reconciliation bill will pass. This is a good bill and you should read it.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/infrastructure-bill-explained/index.html

WHITT

(2,868 posts)
29. UH
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 06:16 PM
Aug 2021
Pelosi won't do that. She is way too smart.

It's HER idea. Of course she's smart.

I've already read the Repub Corporate bill. Apparently you haven't read the horrendous pay-for sections.

But, you're free to give credence to whatever unsubstantiated beliefs you like.

FBaggins

(26,728 posts)
23. That's the "nuclear option" that at least two Democratic senators have rejected
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 09:57 AM
Aug 2021

So the "whip all Democratic senators to vote for it" puts us right back where we started.

Even more so since at this point, the reconciliation bill doesn't even have all of the remaining 48 behind it.

What makes it harder still is that reconciliation is not merely a matter of Senate rules re: what can and can't be filibustered. It's a law... which means that whether a bill is eligible for reconciliation is not just a matter for the parliamentarian or even the Senate as a whole... it's open to court challenges.

quakerboy

(13,919 posts)
14. Fired a blanki
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 08:31 PM
Aug 2021

Unless theres some indication that the senate will pass it as well, its somewhere between a dud and a blank. Not even a warning shot.

FBaggins

(26,728 posts)
26. It's really just a PR effort
Thu Aug 26, 2021, 12:24 PM
Aug 2021

So that they can go back to their districts and tell their voters that they voted on what they promised they would. It's someone else's fault that it isn't a law... so go vote against those people.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. "bill represents recognition that "the greatest threat to voting rights" may be SCOTUS.
Wed Aug 25, 2021, 10:02 PM
Aug 2021

That recognition is all over it. God. What times we live in.

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