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appalachiablue

(41,105 posts)
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:05 PM Sep 2021

Reagan Used Reconciliation To Put America On A 40-Year Road To Ruin. Biden Can Start The Repairs



- 'The Gipper.'
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- Daily Kos, Sept. 17, 2021. - Ed.

On right-wing media, the idea that Democrats might use the reconciliation to push through a funding bill that includes steps to clean up IRS enforcement and hike taxes on corporations currently paying absolutely nothing is being greeted as the ultimate horror. But every claim that Democrats are “misusing” the ability to pass a reconciliation bill that can, with a simple majority, alter taxes for the wealthy, is ignoring one big point: As NPR reports, the giant hole America has dug under the middle class was excavated using exactly this process when, “President Ronald Reagan used reconciliation to achieve his ‘revolution’ in federal fiscal policy in 1981.”

There’s a reason that when discussing issues like the growing gap in wealth between the richest and poorest Americans, and in particular the massive expansion in the gulf between what corporate CEOs make and what an average worker takes home, the charts almost invariably start with the 1980s. That’s because it was Reagan’s policies that really injected rocket fuel into this inequality. It was a change that rewarded not hard work, but wealth accumulation. And wealth … has accumulated. That 1981 change also greatly increased the opportunities and incentives to escape taxes in another way: cheating.

Most Americans have little choice about paying their income taxes because their income is all reported on W-2s or similar forms. For the wealthy, this isn’t true. That leaves open the possibility of simply underreporting income, or lying about investments, in order to evade taxes. Which they have done ... to the tune of $7 trillion over the last decade. The law already provides the wealthy with numerous options for tax avoidance—legally getting around paying what they might have normally owed. That’s not what’s going on here.

When Biden talks about beefing up IRS enforcement, this isn’t a matter of closing loopholes & taking out provisions, even questionable provisions, that allow taxes to be avoided. This is tax evasion—illegally dodging tax payments by hiding income or falsely claiming deductions that don’t exist. To put it more simply, the wealthy have cheated America out of enough money in the last 10 years that the whole nation could have run for more than a year & a half just on the amount they stole. That Republicans are coming down against policing this grandest of grand larceny should be all anyone needs to know about the “law & order” party...

- More,
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/17/2052775/-Using-reconciliation-to-raise-taxes-on-the-wealthy-would-start-to-address-a-wrong-done-40-years-ago

- Daily Kos, The Wealthiest 1% have robbed nation with $7 trill in tax evasion over last 10 yrs, Sept. 8, 2021,
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/8/2051031/-The-U-S-could-operate-for-the-next-year-and-a-half-just-on-the-taxes-the-wealthy-have-dodged
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- NPR, The Democratic Push To Tax The Rich More Is 40 Years In The Making, Sept. 16, 2021,
https://www.npr.org/2021/09/16/1036853972/biden-democrats-tax-the-rich-reagan-trump-reconciliation

If Congress manages to pass President Biden's big budget package this fall with most of its spending and tax changes intact, it will represent the biggest shift in federal fiscal policy in 40 years. If it happens — still a big if — it will be because Congress can circumvent its usual rules and process tax-and-spending measures via a process called reconciliation. That process is a powerhouse capable of major disruptions and changes in government because it offers protection from filibuster. Reconciliation bills can pass with a simple majority.

That is why Biden and his allies, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, think they have a shot at raising trillions in tax revenue over the next 10 years to pay for their spending priorities. Democrats propose to raise the needed revenue through borrowing as well as through more robust revenue collections thanks to a beefed-up IRS. But the bulk of it would come from tougher tax treatment and higher tax rates on corporations, investors and others whose annual income exceeds $400,000...



- The Reagans at their ranch near Santa Clara, California.
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Reagan Used Reconciliation To Put America On A 40-Year Road To Ruin. Biden Can Start The Repairs (Original Post) appalachiablue Sep 2021 OP
Joe Manchin Don't Think So FoxNewsSucks Sep 2021 #1
I feel sick. twodogsbarking Sep 2021 #2
A little deceptive FBaggins Sep 2021 #3
He gave the rich a huge tax cut, equal to tRump's. BigmanPigman Sep 2021 #4
"Trust but verify"? czarjak Sep 2021 #5
Reagan's policies were destructive enough for certain lambchopp59 Sep 2021 #6
'Govt. is the problem' Raygun said at his 1981 inaugural appalachiablue Sep 2021 #7
Concur 100 percent. lambchopp59 Sep 2021 #8

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
3. A little deceptive
Fri Sep 17, 2021, 03:33 PM
Sep 2021

Reagan may very well have used the reconciliation process, but House Democrats controlled more than 50 seats over what republicans controlled in 1981. Any bill had to have substantial cross-party support.

And it passed the Senate by 80-14

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
6. Reagan's policies were destructive enough for certain
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:25 AM
Sep 2021

But his "new day in America" also spurred a genuinely shitty, entitled attitude in much of the "greatest generation" and beyond.
An attitude that shrugged when Ronnie said: "It's been said I favor the rich, I don't deny it".
The "shrug" that the owners of moderate middle class homes still envisioned themselves among the "wealthy", turned a blind eye as social services were decimated under the guise of the "Cadillac welfare class" while sporting the bumpersticker that read: "I'm spending my children's inheritance"...
My tail-end boomer and Gen-Xers were brutally criticized as lazy, undeserving-- as we wore the thrift store hand me downs, scraped for couch pennies to afford tuition and worked overnights for a token income, struggling to stay awake through classes. And sometimes still failed to pay rent, had to find other unskilled work and save up enough to afford the next semester, myself, taking just a few classes at a time to fullfill prerequisites. There's a reason it took me 7 years to complete 4 years of college.
It had nothing to do with being "lazy".
I'm not about to label any future generations like that. Frankly now that the post-middle class economy has completely cut the ability of those who had next to nothing to aspire better than working at McSquaddle's burger joint. Now that many who were so pretentious about their middle class income and home lost all that under Bush II and ended up being the "Cadillac welfare" class they pretended they could never be... discovering it's not so cushy after all.
And some of you are right here, still enjoying retirement incomes and possibilities of nursing home care in your waning years...
Out of reach now for the care staff who will be taking care of you.
It's not only many of the democrat representatives that were complicit in the wealth gap.

appalachiablue

(41,105 posts)
7. 'Govt. is the problem' Raygun said at his 1981 inaugural
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 04:13 PM
Sep 2021

meaning the removal of regulations on Big Business to gain more profit- the 'greed is good' ethos. The start:

Lessening support for working people, the destruction of unions- organized labor which largely supported Democrats, and the continued outsourcing of well- paying union manufacturing jobs.

Regulations and restrictions on news media ownership were lifted on newspapers, radio and TV which led to the start of Fox News (Rupert Murdoch, con media mogul) and the spread of hundreds of right wing radio stations (Limbaugh) since the 1980s.

The end of tax- funded support for college tuition which caused million of students to have to take on bank loans and debt for the first time. Prior to Raygun, three generations of our family went through affordable college supplemented by money from summer and part time jobs. I got out in 1981, barely in time.

No expansion of Medicare-government supported national health like all other advanced nations have had for decades- Britain, Germany, Israel, Costa Rica. Government backed Medicare for 65 and older was intended by Democratic leaders to expand to younger age groups, decade by decade. But with Raygun it was the end of non profit hospitals and heath care and the rise of a monstrous, inequitable for profit 'heath care' system we have today. In California under Gov. Raygun in the 1970s, the state mental heath care system was privatized, a disastrous pilot program that was adopted nationally.

It's been a 40 year, massive transfer of wealth from the people to corporations and the powerful and look what we have as a result- massive income inequality, a destabilized society and the threat of losing our democracy. According to international studies, the US is no longer a 'full democracy' but a 'flawed democracy' due to challenged elections, voting suppression and corporate influence. We had the largest middle class the world had ever seen but in 2012 the US dropped to no. 2 after Canada.

It's a disaster and grossly unfair to younger and vulnerable people, I hear you. This system can't go on, there has to be major change.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
8. Concur 100 percent.
Sat Sep 18, 2021, 05:16 PM
Sep 2021

I used to get so upset with some of my family watching "lifestyles of the rich and famous". Staunch democrats all, I'll give them credit for that, but same time bragging about their latest purchases. University degrees all as well: on the same approximate budget it took me to attend City College, in some cases, far less.
It took me nearly a decade to pay off my student debt. I've never been overseas, that's highly out of reach, time or money wise. Priced out of the market to own a home but also impractical in the "gig" economy. I must go where work demands. Benefit packages offered these days are really extra screwy "savings plans", often worthless. Job market fluctuations have forced me to liquidate those benefits twice now, getting extra-screwed by the investment companies in those instances. Cars start base prices lower than my boomer generation relatives bought their homes for. I paid off exorbitant interest on the first two cars I bought. I regularly see ads pop up "what to do with your million dollar portfolio" and think Gee, must be nice, even at an above average income, I can never dream of that for paying ridiculous rents to landlords in mansions who lawyer down their taxes.
My older relatives laughed at George Carlin's "it's a big club and you ain't in it"... when actually many of them still were to some extent, much more than they ever opened their minds to see.
40 plus years of sweat, blood and tears I'll still never experience even close to what the mid-boomer middle class had. What of these younger generations far more disadvantaged?
The shrug-off hubris of
"97 percent HAVE A REFRIGERATOR" still haunts those of us beyond all credibility who didn't inherit their privilege. Holy crap, those who will never break a sweat about finances or worry about homelessness still bash the ever increasing ranks of the "withouts".
Frustration rant. It's likely I'll expire in a motorhome on off-grid BLM seasonal fee boondocking, still paying off the loan to have that. Hopefully someone finds out before my dog has no more of my corpse to consume.

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