The Republican Party Is Succeeding Because We Are Not a True Democracy
The Jan. 6 attack would not have happened in a genuine democracy.
The attack was the most acute symptom so far of the political crisis that Donald Trump incited by refusing to admit defeat in the 2020 election. But the roots of the crisis run deep into the undemocratic features of our constitutional system.
The arcane scheme that Mr. Trumps lawyers hatched to disrupt congressional certification of the vote and perhaps persuade Republican state legislatures to overturn Joe Bidens victory in states like Pennsylvania was conceivable only because the Electoral College splinters presidential elections into separate contests in each of the 50 states and the District of Columbia and skews the totals toward small states. In a simple system of majority rule, Mr. Bidens thumping margin of more than seven million votes would have been the last word. For that matter, so would Hillary Clintons national margin of nearly three million votes in 2016: Mr. Trump would not have had a 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue address in which to barricade himself in 2020.
Would Mr. Trumps big lie about election fraud have sent the rioters to the Capitol anyway, even without his lawyers and fixers trying to overturn the results? Maybe. But there would have been no constitutional machinery to jam. And even the big lie received a huge constitutional assist. Thanks to the Electoral College, Mr. Trump could have tied Mr. Biden and forced the election into the House of Representatives by flipping just 43,000 votes in three close states, a gap narrow enough that any number of toxic fables can claim to bridge it.
At a more basic level, todays Republican Party succeeds only because the Electoral College, the Senate and the Supreme Court all tilt in its favor. That system has handed conservatives a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court, despite the fact that only one Republican has won the presidential popular vote after 1988. A party doesnt have to persuade majorities that it has the best vision for the country. It only has to persuade a selective minority that the other side is a mortal threat. Its grasp on power may be too tenuous for the party to govern effectively, but it has offered conservatives a fine perch to weaken economic and environmental regulation, appoint conservative judges and launch attacks on the democratic system itself.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/03/opinion/us-democracy-constitution.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuonUktbfqYhkSVUbACbSRdkhrxqAwuXUhbAxg3j1NiGeWHNJyOIOH4mc5lvMYqwlZ8c2237TYu59B4IVZa44yP5DbQsqQhO0o5CAldNcLn8899m4VCZo1c7AGO1iqGGvPzDpI6ImlO214R_ZbjTrC6DPwDZ2clYe1Jhudlmo2XYNxL6UUbImn4kjgopyQ8xyVjwCZyKVvvH3Ch8YONiObR7U6ABeSPgOEHiI3obas-RcBV0UXVHWT3p_4nI-6MdfPr4UOaX_KB0heanukMm9B5z-uqyFAFm8ZmYu3W8&smid=url-share
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,728 posts)There are a few principled ones left to defend and uphold the US Constitution. The oath they swore above everything else.
Freddie
(9,256 posts)The mechanisms to perpetuate minority rule are baked into the Constitution.
YP_Yooper
(291 posts)we lost the center that used to be ours - especially the working class.
We can do better to reach out to those who don't choose to live on the coasts and gain ground inland.
Frankly, what if the majority of the population lived in Ohio, Texas, Florida, MS and those other extremist states? I'm happy to have had a choice and moved away from Ohio 2 yrs ago with those nut cases. Should we then just accept that they should control national politics because they have more people? There are good reasons to support political control at the state level where a true direct democracy comes closer to reality.
Imagine what would have happened if elections were controlled by a central government instead of at the state level - with Trump and his minions in control?
Freddie
(9,256 posts)Because of the EC and the nature of the Senate which gives outsized power to rural states. And since 2/3 votes of states is needed for a Constitutional amendment, we will never be able to solve any of these things. I, as a female, cant even get equal rights guaranteed by law.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,779 posts)
riddled with trapdoors and shortcuts for minority rule, massive barriers against majority rule, laid out in such a way that it can be captured and dismantled piece by piece
Now, lets see you just try to keep it
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)it would take 2/3 of Congress and 2/3 of state legislators to abolish the Electoral college. Democrats are trying to close the loopholes in the Electoral college and I see that Chuck Schumer has finally called for a vote for a carve out to the filibuster on Jan. 17th. The House has already passed the 3 election/voter safeguard bills, the ball is in Chuck's hands.
YP_Yooper
(291 posts)so many act like all small states are by default, Repubs. Gaining more votes in Dem stronghold states doesn't help at all.
It wasn't always this way, especially among the working class. These places may vote R but still abhor the aristocrat billionaire, pro corporate people...
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)multigraincracker
(32,641 posts)One of those told me that a few years ago. I said that is right, however there are only two kinds of Republics, Democratic Republics and Banana Republics. He hung his head and had nothing to say about that.
TygrBright
(20,755 posts)We've pretty much always been an oligarchy of powerful white property-owners with a veneer of democratic input in the operations of government.
When the veneer is thicker and stronger we make a small increment of progress in sharing power and wealth with non-oligarchs, which immediately terrifies the oligarchs and results in them sanding away more of the veneer.
I don't believe we will succumb to an actual autocracy as Russia did when Putin undermined the proto-capitalist oligarchy that replaced their version of 'communism' (essentially an oligarchy of Party leadership).
Our oligarchs might set up a puppet autocrat to further bolster them against the tide of change, but in the end, change will win.
Of course, the victory of change may come in the form of human extinction, if we cannot pry the oligarchs loose and implement climate mitigation, sustainable economies, and real equity that transcends patriarchy with its dependence on racism, misogyny and xenophobia.
observantly,
Bright
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)We need to start calling these rich billionaires who buy politicians, American oligarchs. It is mind boggeling that we allow such a system.
I laugh when people ask Joe Manchin what his plan is for BBB, what he wants changed, someone needs to ask his American oligarchs.
I think that if Trump were to win via a coup per the Electoral college, he would go full out Pinocet-style dictatorship. He is that ruthless and mentally ill.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Just ask Manchin to tell us what his controllers are demanding.
He won't admit it or even give a cogent answer, but it would be amusing to watch him feign outrage at the question again.
Thunderbeast
(3,400 posts)By ignoring the powers vested in state legislatures to arbitrate or select electors, Democrats let the back door tyranny to bloom.
Republicans have exploited these flaws in our federalist system. Decades of trust in the opposition to "do the right thing" by recognizing the will of the voters was overturned by the 2000 Brooks Brothers Riot and the theft of the Florida electors.
It has happened before. Ask President Tilden!
https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/educational-resources/disputed-election-1876
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)in the Electoral college. That bill isn't talked about much but it is out there and awaiting Senate passage.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)And the only way to pass such an amendment that benefits Republicans is to have Democrats in control of 38 states. Currently Democrats have full control of 15 states. It will be an uphill battle to get to 38. The most important elements of any new voting rights bill are getting rid of partisan gerrymandering, ensuring fair counts of votes and specific justification for throwing out votes (not the specious signature mismatching that Texas has enable), and requiring the use of voting machines with paper backups for all federal elections to ensure fair and accurate recounts.
Whether we will get there with Manchin and Sinema determined to undermine democracy to save the filibuster remains to be seen.
bucolic_frolic
(43,050 posts)A true democracy is where everyone votes on every issue and majority wins. Never gonna happen.
Founders feared what they called "mob rule" - short term, emotional ignorance by the masses making decisions. So they chose representative democracy. The representatives would be men of learning and wisdom. But we don't even have that because the GOP has trumped representative democracy. So the relief valves built into the Constitution by the Founders have been jimmied loose.
YP_Yooper
(291 posts)who can argue against this comment from way long ago, with how the populace now reacts on social media? I mean, just because you can read headlines, follow who has the most likes, have two thumbs and can almost spell, you have a truly intellectual opinion or can lead?
"Walter Lippmann, perhaps the most prominent intellectual of the short American Century, reckoned that citizens were ignorant, confused and emotional. Democracy brought an intensification of feeling and a degradation of significance to whatever it touched. "
Just an observation, not necessarily a position
The assumption that the more educated, enlightened political leaders could only get to office went out the window long ago. I'd say Reagan. Elected 'cuz he was a cowboy. Then the aristocrat political families and the "You're fired" orange aristocrat from NYC from a stupid wealthy family who was on TV. Now his demon offspring and the religious minions who attend regular social media gatherings instead of going to church lead the way. I mean, when people talk of Kardashians and the like running for office because they're so popular. ugh...
certainot
(9,090 posts)both clarence thomas and kavenaugh in particular owe limbaugh for attacking their critics - anita hill and christine blasey ford both were assaulted all day for weeks while democrats stuck their fingers in their ears
we let limbaugh and sons decide who is and isn't acceptable on the supreme court. we even let, without complaint, 87 universities help them
the electoral college wouldn't even be an issue if democratic and progressive leaders and orgs hadn't ignored the ONLY unique advantage republicans have had for 30 years.
that is why we don't have a democracy - ignoring a few hundred racist liars on 1500 coordinated radio stations. and it continues, as manchin and sinema use those radio-made-to-order constituencies to enable them to sabotage progress and destroy the planet
Jon King
(1,910 posts)We focused on getting Clinton, Obama, Biden elected to undo the damages of the Bush guys and Trump. However while we did that the Repugs spent 40 years focused on the Supreme Court which turned out to be the bigger prize.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)it as real as they can for everyone have also always had to fight to keep it for everyone.