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riversedge

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Wed Sep 21, 2022, 07:45 PM Sep 2022

Here's the story of Trump taking me on a tour of his Trump Tower apartment ("the best apartment ever




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Here's the story of Donald Trump taking me on a tour of his Trump Tower apartment ("the best apartment ever built, they say—those that know&quot , lying about how big it is, then getting sued by the NY attorney general in part for lying about its size.


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How Forbes Exposed Trump’s Lies About The Size Of His Penthouse



https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2022/09/21/how-forbes-exposed-trumps-lies-about-the-size-of-his-penthouse/?sh=54bdf62558ec
Chase Peterson-WithornForbes Staff

Sep 21, 2022,03:20pm EDT


Donald Trump at Trump Tower in 2015.Jamel Toppin/The Forbes Collection

It’s September 21, 2015 and Donald Trump is wheeling around his Trump Tower penthouse like a realtor at a showing. “35-foot ceilings!” he exclaims in the living room. “We have a fireplace,” he points out in the two-story dining room. “Can’t even get ‘em anymore.” He shows me the window where he claims he watched the second plane hit the World Trade Center. He directs me to a knockout view of Central Park. But more important to Trump than any one feature is the apartment’s size: 33,000 square feet–the entire top three floors of the skyscraper. He’s mentioned it at least 10 times over the past two hours as part of a marathon meeting stretching from his 26th-floor office to the Trump Tower gym and, finally, his gilded palace in the sky, which he says is much bigger and much more valuable than we’re estimating for our Forbes 400 list of the richest Americans.

Except none of it was true. I dug through property records, which showed Trump’s apartment was 10,996 square feet and only took up part of the floors. I spent hours sifting through every photo or video shot inside the penthouse, looking for extra rooms. I visited a grungy Manhattan records office, where I was told the apartment’s blueprints should be, but they were missing–perhaps taken by the Secret Service, I thought. I even had our stellar research librarian unearth a copy of Architectural Digest from the 1980s that featured an earlier version of Trump’s place, hoping to find evidence of the missing 22,004 square feet. No dice.

The records were clear: Donald Trump owned a 10,996-square-foot pad–more than 6 times the size of the median U.S. home, but nowhere near what Trump claimed–so I wrote a story, published in May 2017: Donald Trump Has Been Lying About The Size Of His Penthouse.

Last year, I was subpoenaed by the Manhattan district attorney’s office to testify about this article to a grand jury mulling criminal charges for Trump. Now, seven years to the day after then-candidate Trump insisted to me that his penthouse was 33,000 square feet, he’s being sued for $250 million by the New York attorney general, in part for lying about its size. The former president has allegedly been overvaluing the place on the financial statements he gives to his financial institutions, as part of an alleged scheme “to induce banks to lend money to the Trump Organization on more favorable terms than would otherwise have been available to the company, to satisfy continuing loan covenants, to induce insurers to provide insurance coverage for higher limits and at lower premiums, and to gain tax benefits, among other things.” (Trump has criticized the investigation as a partisan witch hunt.)

Here’s the original Forbes story, now cited in the civil lawsuit against Trump, on how Trump faked the size of his penthouse, republished in full:


During the presidential race, Donald Trump left the campaign trail to give Forbes a guided tour of his three-story Trump Tower penthouse—part of his decades-long crusade for a higher spot on our billionaire rankings. Gliding through his gilded home, he bragged that people have called his Manhattan aerie the "best apartment ever built" and emphasized its immense size (33,000 square feet) and value (at least $200 million). "I own the top three floors—the whole floor, times three!" He admitted to having once had a neighbor, pointing to a door on the 66th floor. "I leased that little section to Michael Jackson. I knew him better than anybody."...............................................
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Here's the story of Trump taking me on a tour of his Trump Tower apartment ("the best apartment ever (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2022 OP
I lost count of the lies. underpants Sep 2022 #1
ha ha. you lost count a LONG TIME Ago!!!!!!!!! riversedge Sep 2022 #3
I meant in that article. underpants Sep 2022 #4
ok. sorry. I was having a joke anyway. Have a good night. riversedge Sep 2022 #5
And he undoubtedly pumps up the size value when he's trying to get lians TexasBushwhacker Sep 2022 #2
He "inflates" and "deflates" BigmanPigman Sep 2022 #6
I did learn SCantiGOP Sep 2022 #7
I did learn SCantiGOP Sep 2022 #7

TexasBushwhacker

(20,178 posts)
2. And he undoubtedly pumps up the size value when he's trying to get lians
Wed Sep 21, 2022, 08:14 PM
Sep 2022

and then pays appraiser to say it's smaller and worth less when his property taxes come due

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