Spanking Kids Leads to Adult Mental Illnesses

[lunasun]

"Up to 7%" of some adult disorders may be attributed to harsh physical punishment" that is not the spanking sector to me, but that is the title
Am I reading this study wrong or should the professor at the school of medicine along with the nurse planner be spanked for that title???

and the MSM is playing up the no spanking
( for disclosure I have been and am a spanker- on the butt- rarely needed, and usually once does it no repeats, so I've been lucky but it was still spanking)

and hitting a kid in the face in the kitchen like they show is not = a calm reprimand spanking IMO

Is spanking really that bad???

I have seen bad results of non spankers
Or is it about just give them Ritalin later on will be the new discipline?
No zombies needed!

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Pediatrics/Parenting/33561

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/spanking-kids-leads-adult-mental-illnesses/story?id=16695697

[valerief]

1. You mean like a fetish? nt

[lunasun]

2. I can not imagine that fetish leading to any

mental problems ...for either spanker or spankee adults as long as they are consenting and having a good time

but the links are actually re : pediatric medicine study and I am a kid spanker for mild discipline not fetish

[Kolesar]

3. Can you edit this and construct some sentences?

I don't know what you said.

[katsy]

4. What possesses people to hit other people anyway?

What possible fear could children instill in their parents that would make parents lash out physically?

WTF? Lead by example not by sheer force. Put me in the spanking is cowardly column.

I've never encountered a bully that didn't have emotional or physical scars. They are the only "zombies" I've ever known.

Disclosure: Not only have I never spanked, I'm not afraid of watching and loving my kids grow up to be themselves... not a mini-me.

[intaglio]

5. You ask

Is spanking really that bad???

then add

I have seen bad results of non spankers
Or is it about just give them Ritalin later on will be the new discipline?
No zombies needed!

I think the Swedes might take issue with you on that. Spanking and other corporal punishments have been banned for years in Sweden and Ritalin was banned from use in 1968. The Swedish population have not suddenly turned to crime "en masse," because of that limitation.

Look at it this way, would you spank or otherwise physically abuse a relative aged 80? Then start subtracting 5 years from that age and at each stage ask yourself whether behaviour modification by pain is allowable at that age. At what age would you find it allowable? I suspect some age less than 20 years old would be your starting point.

Another aspect; if your father is or was right wing would they be justified in inflicting pain to discourage you from voting Democratic?

An another; is a parent justified in inflicting pain to stop their daughter working, or falling in love with a person of another race, or going out without a Hijab?

IMO physical punishment is a quick fix, it stops the overt practise of "bad behaviour" whilst doing little about the root cause.

[Igel]

6. Yup.

In other words < 7% of only certain adult disorders can be said to have some causal connection to "harsh physical punishment".

Makes it sound a bit less sensationalistic and, when you read it, you tend to not overestimate the numbers. Or confuse a spank or two on rare occasional with "harsh physical punishment" (although there are people for whom the merest threat of violence is a war crime, researchers are pretty good about stating frequency and duration).

Yeah. It's nasty and it shouldn't happen. Keep physical punishment to a minimum, closely connected to the bad behavior (as in immediate or nearly so) and not inflicted out of rage, brutality, or humiliation. It'll be vanishingly rare except for truly exceptional children, and then the fact that it's not vanishingly rare (if the other conditions are met) will be a clue that the kid needs help.

Full disclosure: A family close to me probably falls into the category of "mental illness resulting from prolonged physical and psychological abuse by parent figure."

[Dont call me Shirley]

7. YES, SPANKING REALLY IS THAT BAD.

Don't do it, EVER!

[Liberty Belle]

8. Some flaws in this logic.

For one, maybe kids with mental illness have mentally ill parents, who are more apt to lose control and spank.
Or maybe kids who already have mental illnesses are more act to act out, driving frustrated parents to resort to spanking.

[bemildred]

9. Violence begets violence.

If that's not what you want, think first.

[Odin2005]

11. + Infinity!

[Shagman]

10. children are not adults

You can reason with an adult. You can't reason with a child and change its behavior. Spanking should be the last option, but it should be an option.

My sister tried the no-spanking route. I once saw her son punching and kicking her after she had to drag him out of a toy store. What kind of lesson does that teach?

[Odin2005]

12. If you have to resort to physical violence to control your kid you fail as a parent.

[Odin2005]

13. Spanking is CHILD ABUSE, period.

Using violent discipline against a child creates a fearful, authoritarian personality, which is why the RW assholes are all for beating children.