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Mosby

(16,258 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:08 PM Dec 2022

An Academic Is Fired Over a Medieval Painting of the Prophet Muhammad

On Nov. 18, Hamline University’s student newspaper, The Oracle, published an article notifying its community members of two recent incidents on its campus in Saint Paul, Minnesota, one indubitably homophobic and the other supposedly Islamophobic. Both occurrences were placed under the same rubric as “incidents of hate and discrimination.”

Islamophobia — which involves hate speech against Islam and Muslims and/or physical violence or discrimination against Muslims — has indeed proven a blight in the United States, especially after 9/11, the rise of the militant far right and the recent political empowerment of white supremacy.

The “Islamophobic incident” catalyzed plenty of administrative commentary and media coverage at the university. Among others, it formed the subject of a second Oracle article, which noted that a faculty member had included in their global survey of art history a session on Islamic art, which offered an optional visual analysis and discussion of a famous medieval Islamic painting of the Prophet Muhammad. A student complained about the image’s inclusion in the course and led efforts to press administrators for a response. After that, the university’s associate vice president of inclusive excellence (AVPIE) declared the classroom exercise “undeniably inconsiderate, disrespectful and Islamophobic.”

Neither before nor after these declarations was the faculty member given a public platform or forum to explain the classroom lecture and activity. To fill in the gap, on Dec. 6, an essay written by a Hamline professor of religion who teaches Islam explaining the incident along with the historical context and aesthetic value of Islamic images of Muhammad was published on The Oracle’s website. The essay was taken down two days later. One day after that, Hamline’s president and AVPIE sent a message to all employees stating that “respect for the observant Muslim students in that classroom should have superseded academic freedom.” The essay’s censorship and the subsequent email by two top university administrators raise serious concerns about freedom of speech and academic freedom at the university.

https://newlinesmag.com/argument/academic-is-fired-over-a-medieval-painting-of-the-prophet-muhammad/

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An Academic Is Fired Over a Medieval Painting of the Prophet Muhammad (Original Post) Mosby Dec 2022 OP
These are perilous times we live in. n.t. lark Dec 2022 #1
Tired of ignorance and cowardice running universities nt delisen Dec 2022 #2
Some history ... marble falls Dec 2022 #3
This Is Bullshit The Magistrate Dec 2022 #4
This gives me a friggin headache. Biophilic Dec 2022 #5
Nowhere in the Koran does it prohibit images of Muhammad. SalamanderSleeps Dec 2022 #6
Okay. Death to Wikipedia! dalton99a Dec 2022 #7
NEXT: Hamline University changes name to Line University dalton99a Dec 2022 #8
..... trusty elf Dec 2022 #9
+10 nt reACTIONary Dec 2022 #10
"associate vice president of inclusive excellence" Dr. Strange Dec 2022 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2023 #12
Once again, when your religion starts dictating my actions, it stops being a religion Scrivener7 Feb 2023 #13

marble falls

(57,010 posts)
3. Some history ...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:33 PM
Dec 2022
https://www.newsweek.com › what-would-muslim-want-portrait-christ-758008
What Would a Muslim Want With a Portrait of Christ? - Newsweek
Among these objects, a large canteen made in the Mosul area, in modern-day northern Iraq, includes a central image of the Virgin Mary with Christ Child enthroned (below), as well as other scenes ...

https://islam.stackexchange.com › questions › 40753 › is-it-true-that-prophet-mohammad-did-not-remove-a-statue-of-mother-mary-from-the
Is it true that Prophet Mohammad did not remove a statue of Mother Mary ...
Hadith 186 says that Quraish had put inside the Ka'abah pictures of Jesus and of Mary. The footnote in the same book says the hadith is weak, with some people unnamed in its narration. ... Our prophet pbuh ordered to wash all the pagan paintings but specifically instructed to leave the portrait of Marry alone.However that too was eventually ...

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
4. This Is Bullshit
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:34 PM
Dec 2022

The student is no different from one of the professional Christians whimpering about 'gay porn' in school libraries.

No matter how devout a person is, they have no right to expect others who do not share their religious views to adhere to their practices, let alone any right to compel them to. It might be courteous to refrain from an action, inconsequential to oneself, which gives some offense to a believer, but no one is required to display such deference, and in many instances, it would be inappropriate to do so. This one of them. The student may not like it, but a survey of medieval art will contain such depictions, and if that is something he wants to study, that's part of the course.

Biophilic

(3,630 posts)
5. This gives me a friggin headache.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:34 PM
Dec 2022

When did "feelings" become more important than facts and truth? Sorry, we all live in a world that sometimes does things that upset us, but those feelings should not dictate policy. I don't care if it's white teenagers hearing about racism and feeling badly, nor people of almost any religion finding something upsetting. This professor offered an "optional visual analysis and discussion". Yes, we do live in perilous times, but we should be smart enough to find our way through ourselves and to help others find their way through rather than just deciding to wipe someone or something out. We have to be better than this...or else we truly are lost. Democracy is messy and the truth can cause more messes, but in the long run worth the extra effort.

SalamanderSleeps

(578 posts)
6. Nowhere in the Koran does it prohibit images of Muhammad.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:41 PM
Dec 2022

However, it does condemn the worship of idols.

Kneeling before a hunk of plaster has always seemed a little stupid to me.

Still, Zealots of all faiths always tend to just make shit up as they go along.

It's a fucking shame that so many folks die just to cater to requirements of other people's "goddamned" fantasies.

Dr. Strange

(25,916 posts)
11. "associate vice president of inclusive excellence"
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 01:58 PM
Dec 2022

Holy moley, that's quite the collection of woke buzzwords.

Response to Mosby (Original post)

Scrivener7

(50,911 posts)
13. Once again, when your religion starts dictating my actions, it stops being a religion
Thu Feb 2, 2023, 09:13 AM
Feb 2023

and starts being an institutional coercion.

If your religion prohibits you from looking at Muhammad images, by all means don't do so.

If your religion prohibits you from abortion, by all means don't have one.

If your religion prohibits you from disrespecting spaghetti, by all means, don't.

But, as long as the rest of us aren't forcing you to do what you are prohibited by your religion, leave the rest of us out of it.

If there was no disclaimer for Muslim students to leave or turn away before the image was shown, that should have garnered a disciplinary act. Otherwise, leave the rest of us out of it.

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