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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 05:02 AM Jul 2012

Mitt Romney Campaign Scraps $50,000 Per Plate Jerusalem Fundraiser On A Jewish Fasting Day

Mitt Romney's presidential campaign has been forced to scrap a $50,000 per plate fundraiser scheduled to take place during his visit to Jerusalem because the date coincided with a solemn Jewish day of mourning.

The fundraiser, which was supposed to be a "a small meeting, but a big fund-raiser," according to a source quoted in the Jerusalem Post on Wednesday, was set to take place on July 29, amid the Romney campaign's first foreign policy tour.

But July 29 is also Tisha B'Av, a Jewish day of fasting in some traditions of the religion, in which catastrophic events like the destruction of the First and Second Temples and the Holocaust are mourned.

Andrea Saul, a spokeswoman for the Romney campaign, pointed to a tweet by Natasha Mosgovaya, a political correspondent for the Israeli daily Ha'aretz, that stated on Thursday morning that the campaign would in fact not be holding the fundraiser. The tweet quoted a Romney official saying the campaign was "aware of the sensitivity of that date." Saul declined to comment on whether the fundraiser had been canceled or would be rescheduled.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/mitt-romney-jerusalem-fundraiser_n_1668271.html?utm_hp_ref=twitter&comm_ref&comm_crv

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Mitt Romney Campaign Scraps $50,000 Per Plate Jerusalem Fundraiser On A Jewish Fasting Day (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jul 2012 OP
Romney--still out of touch. TexasTowelie Jul 2012 #1
Odd - being as how he is a member of the Lost Tribe panzerfaust Jul 2012 #4
According to Mormon myth, the Native Americans were part of the lost tribes of Israel... Raster Jul 2012 #21
Don't confuse us with science. Next you'll be saying that science proves climate change is real... Moonwalk Jul 2012 #29
And this is the one thing about the Mormon faith that pisses me off Scootaloo Jul 2012 #52
2 strikes for this goober. he's pathetic. roguevalley Jul 2012 #36
Did you know that it was Tisha B'Av? Igel Jul 2012 #49
Does Mitt Romney still plan to have the secret meeting? UCmeNdc Jul 2012 #2
Yes! In the secret club house that says "Lost Tribes Only!" and "No gurls allowed!" Moonwalk Jul 2012 #30
Was it going to be a pig roast? rfranklin Jul 2012 #3
Nope, they were just going to toss some shrimp on the barby panzerfaust Jul 2012 #6
With queso! catrose Jul 2012 #18
rMONEY will still find a way to collect the donations SkatmanRoth Jul 2012 #5
I thought he would have been more effective in Israel, so its a pleasure to see he has .... marble falls Jul 2012 #7
I really can't see the Israelis warming up to him. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #8
Its hard to warm up to anyone with the empathy deficet Mitt has even if he has an agenda ... marble falls Jul 2012 #13
People skills: he doesn't haz them. nt Chorophyll Jul 2012 #20
he has one clueless and crappy advance team Danmel Jul 2012 #9
My first thought as well; they're all morons, it seems. nt babylonsister Jul 2012 #24
I'd put Yom kippur ahead of 9 Av. Igel Jul 2012 #50
not the holiest day Danmel Jul 2012 #54
his initial response was, "so don't eat" Enrique Jul 2012 #10
OK, to compare to this twit Shrub starting to look like a genius. idwiyo Jul 2012 #11
His advance team rocks! sellitman Jul 2012 #12
they'll be rocks, too. marble falls Jul 2012 #14
I like your snarkasm! xtraxritical Jul 2012 #28
No--they'll be wooden, just like Mitt.t tblue37 Jul 2012 #40
really justabob Jul 2012 #25
Really? No one on his team KNEW this? annabanana Jul 2012 #15
Its the sort of thing which happens dipsydoodle Jul 2012 #16
The worst part is they DID know. They just thought it was as unimportant pnwmom Jul 2012 #41
Wait, I thought foreign campaign contributions were illegal Courtesy Flush Jul 2012 #17
Yes. Part of Citizens' United. nt caseymoz Jul 2012 #43
Contributions from foreigners is illegal. Igel Jul 2012 #51
I wonder if Mitt will go into a kosher deli and order a ... Botany Jul 2012 #19
If mitt ran a grocery store... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #38
"It wasn't really a gaff" noamnety Jul 2012 #22
What's Hebrew for "TORO TURD!" rocktivity Jul 2012 #23
bingo NJCher Jul 2012 #47
It's all good though. He was serving Lobster. TalkingDog Jul 2012 #26
FAIL. BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #27
He's going to Poland next? I can't wait! caseymoz Jul 2012 #44
R(money). The gift that keeps on giving. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #31
More Bungled Staff Work DallasNE Jul 2012 #32
Will never be ready for prime time. nt caseymoz Jul 2012 #45
Seriously? tjwmason Jul 2012 #33
Mitt the Twit strikes again thelordofhell Jul 2012 #34
Such a shame dipsydoodle Jul 2012 #35
You know... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #37
Politicians need calenders with ALL the religious holidays. aquart Jul 2012 #39
"now what are we supposed to do with all these Honeybaked Hams?" bhikkhu Jul 2012 #42
Didn't think it was possible caseymoz Jul 2012 #46
OK, give it up NJCher Jul 2012 #48
The Meshuganah Candidate The Blue Flower Jul 2012 #53
 

panzerfaust

(2,818 posts)
4. Odd - being as how he is a member of the Lost Tribe
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:35 AM
Jul 2012


Oh. Sorry. Right. Wrong.

I guess it is the Native Americans (at least the surviving, bad, brown Lamanites) who are members of the Lost Tribes. Not the Mormons themselves?? Which really gets confusing when the Church calls all non-members (including Jews?) "Gentiles."

Fortunately, when Lamanites convert to Mormonism they become "white and delightsome." It is not known what happens to Jews who convert.

Oh, yes - again, right - latest update: Sometime in the past few decades the revealed word of God changed to say "pure," instead of "white."

I do not know if that was before, or after, the Church decided that Black people (well, Black males, anyhow) could fully participate in the Church.

Terribly confusing.

However what is not confusing and is quite certain is that Mitty will still get massive donations from Israel - after all, he is willing to start a massive nuclear war on their behalf.

What could be more Christian than that?

But this confuses me too, for, when, as a kid, I asked the father of my Mormon friend if they were Christians, he said "No. We are Mormons."

Yet, that was prior to the jaunty new subtitle for The Book of Mormon: "Another Testament of Jesus Christ" - or is it "A Latter Testament of Jesus Christ" - I would swear I have seen both, so perhaps Mormons are now Christians too.

“Just as the arch crumbles if the keystone is removed, so does all the Church stand or fall with the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon”
~ LDS President Ezra Taft Benson

But how can one know the truth when it keeps changing?

Especially when all actual evidence is that Amerindians are part of the Asian Horde, not lost remnants of the Chosen People from the Middle East.

FSM: I humbly beseech You to keep Mitter's finger off of the nuclear trigger.

Prime Time he is ready for not.








Raster

(20,998 posts)
21. According to Mormon myth, the Native Americans were part of the lost tribes of Israel...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:16 AM
Jul 2012

Last edited Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)

...And Jesus came and hung out with his lost homies right after his resurrection.

Only problem is that SEVERAL independent genetic researchers have all concluded that there is NOT ONE DROP of Jewish blood in the Native American gene pool, nor the Polynesian gene pool, whom were also elevated to lost tribe status.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
29. Don't confuse us with science. Next you'll be saying that science proves climate change is real...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jul 2012

and so is evolution. Oh, and that gays are born that way and can't be changed. Remember the mantra: "The prophet said it, I believe it, and that's that."

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
52. And this is the one thing about the Mormon faith that pisses me off
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:07 PM
Jul 2012

Let me preface this by saying what I mean is, everyone's free to believe whatever kooky shit htye want, so long as it doesn't step into my space. I'm not going to share those beliefs, so I just don't worry too much about if people think a dude with a magic hat is king of a new planet or whatever's going on there...

But their "beliefs" about Native Americans HAVE caused real harm to history. One of the favorite pastimes of traveling Mormons was apparently scrubbing over existing petroglyphs and carving the ten commandments in Scholastic Hebrew over what was left, just so they could point and go "Look! Jesus wuz here!" Their bullshit has percolated up into general discourse, leading an asinine number of people to believe variations on the "Indians were invaders who killed all the good white people" story. Even into actual science regarding the possibility of paleolithic immigration from Europe; the "story" usually presented there is of anatomically modern caucasians landing and then getting kileld by the brown savages from Elsewhere™

As for the "lost tribe," fucking everyone's the lost tribe, if you read enough books. From the Irish to the japanese to the Fuegans, every time a European met a new culture, they would gasp and go "Lost tribe!" - it was sort of a fad at the time.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
49. Did you know that it was Tisha B'Av?
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:52 PM
Jul 2012

Heck, relatively few people have even heard of it. It's not such a big deal even among Jews that I knew in Jersey. Yeah, they know it's there. But they were ham sandwich Jews.They eat ham sandwiches during Passover, but go to a seder and some fall high day services because it's a family-and-friends thing. Like my brother's family for Xmas--the one day of the year he'd darken a church entrance. He liked the music.


I don't know that anybody I know in Houston would even know what 9 Av is. Every summer, late July or early August, I sort of remember it's in here some place. It wanders around this time of year. Like Rosh hashanah or Yom kippur. In a month or so I'll look up when they are so I can ask for days off for them. I don't do Av 9. I'm not Jewish.

I'd like Sukkoth off, though, but will content myself with just the first and last days and hope I don't get sick during the year.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
2. Does Mitt Romney still plan to have the secret meeting?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 05:48 AM
Jul 2012

Mitt Romney also planned to hold some sort of secret meeting while in Tel Aviv. Will that secret get together still take place?

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
5. rMONEY will still find a way to collect the donations
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:42 AM
Jul 2012

Romney can be counted on to keep the weapons flowing to Israel.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
7. I thought he would have been more effective in Israel, so its a pleasure to see he has ....
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 07:23 AM
Jul 2012

enough of that Mitt touch to entertain us even from Israel.

Chorophyll

(5,179 posts)
8. I really can't see the Israelis warming up to him.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 07:49 AM
Jul 2012

He will find new and better ways to offend even the most conservative among them. I mean, he pissed off the English, and he's supposed to be Just Like Them.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
13. Its hard to warm up to anyone with the empathy deficet Mitt has even if he has an agenda ...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:41 AM
Jul 2012

one could agree with.

Danmel

(4,912 posts)
9. he has one clueless and crappy advance team
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 07:52 AM
Jul 2012

tisha b av is the most solemn day on the Jewish calendar It marks the destruction on the Temple in Jerusalem. Observant Jews not only fast for 25 hours, but there are overnight readings from the book of lamentations and a 9 day period leading into the dast when there is a semi-mourningperiod with restrictions on diet & pleasurable activities. He has zero cultural awareness &.sensitivy. And needs to hire smarter people to book stuff dor him.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
50. I'd put Yom kippur ahead of 9 Av.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:57 PM
Jul 2012

Sorry. Some Jews put their nation ahead of their religion.

They're not just "observant." It's a bit more than that.

Still, for a meeting in Israel, he certainly should have hired somebody with a clue. It's like booking an event in Sa'udi Arabia: You want to check your local calendar.

justabob

(3,069 posts)
25. really
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:03 PM
Jul 2012

This is planning/scheduling 101 stuff.... check the calendar. However I feel about Romney in general, I can't believe that they are having mistakes like this at this level, they're supposed to be professionals, right? It's one thing to have silly conflicts at the PTA level, but this is a presidential campaign, and it's going into a very tightly wound country in a tightly wound region, everything matters. It is truly shocking how out of touch they are on so many levels.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
41. The worst part is they DID know. They just thought it was as unimportant
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:02 PM
Jul 2012

to the Jewish people as it clearly was to them. One more example of their complete lack of diplomatic skills.

From the article in the OP:

"Jonny Daniels, a leading Republican political strategist in Israel, told The Huffington Post that the campaign had been aware of the date of the holiday when it scheduled the fundraiser. The campaign thought it could hold the event in a way that would not offend, he said, but was taken by surprise at the ferocity of the public outcry over the timing."

Igel

(35,296 posts)
51. Contributions from foreigners is illegal.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jul 2012

Obama raised a chunk of change in Europe when he did his European tour.

Romney's doing the same.

There are a lot of Americans overseas. That's all that's required: Have US citizenship, donate $500 dollars, it's not a foreign donation.

Now, that $500 donation, if your the Federal elections folk, how do you *prove* that it's a foreign donation. Good luck.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
22. "It wasn't really a gaff"
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jul 2012

I love this!

"It wasn't really a gaffe," Daniels said. "They knew what the day was, but they were looking for the correct time and circumstance to do it. Instead it ended up seeming like a big dinner, but that's not really what it is."

On a different note, could someone explain how this: "Immediately after the fund-raising meeting, Romney will host a conference in Jerusalem, where he will lay out his Middle East policy" works with his previous statement that he doesn't want to discuss foreign policy issues while on foreign soil? (http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=277050)

rocktivity

(44,573 posts)
23. What's Hebrew for "TORO TURD!"
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:56 AM
Jul 2012

"...a Jewish day of fasting in SOME traditions of the religion..." Wasn't the Romney camp told of the holiday when they picked the date for meeting? More to the point, if so many people were unable to attend due to the holiday, why did they go ahead and set up the fundraiser in the first place?

I think what really happened is that in the light of Romney's showing in London, most, if not all, of the invitees bailed out -- why invest in a racehorse that can't even stand up?


rocktivity

BumRushDaShow

(128,748 posts)
27. FAIL.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:06 PM
Jul 2012

And more proof that he really doesn't give a damn about them or anyone else. His only love is money. And ironically, they informed the press that their event was "closed" to media, breaking a supposed transparency policy.

His staff is so breath-takingly lazy to not even care that Saturday IS the Sabbath (and is strictly observed by non-secular Jews), let alone to at least try to take time to touch base with contacts there regarding whether any holy days or other commemorations were scheduled. It shows that the whole trip was knee-jerk scheduled to try to get away from the tax-evasion story.

I can't even imagine what is bound to happen in Poland.

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
44. He's going to Poland next? I can't wait!
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:15 AM
Jul 2012

Aside from the fact that he's embarrassing our whole country, this is hilarious. This is comedy you couldn't make up!

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
32. More Bungled Staff Work
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:31 PM
Jul 2012

And another major gaffe at that. One would think that Romney staffers would check out whether dates were sensitive in Israel before putting together the plans only to have them blow up in their faces. If there preparations are this shallow on small matters I dred to think of how bad things could be with significant issues. This is another hint that Mr. Romney is not ready for prime time.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
39. Politicians need calenders with ALL the religious holidays.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:44 PM
Jul 2012

Was that Israel gaffe #1?

And wtf do they mean he's raising foreign money????????????????????

caseymoz

(5,763 posts)
46. Didn't think it was possible
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:26 AM
Jul 2012

. . . but Mitt might actually be deposed as Republican nominee at the Convention.

He's no longer in danger of becoming defined, he's in danger of becoming a stereotype, of the bungling, out-of-touch politician. If this keeps up, he might as well go to Hollywood to play that role in comedies for the rest of his life.
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