Why Do People Hate Teachers Unions? Because They Hate Teachers. « Corey Robin
Despite this, many kids and their parents held teachers in contempt. Teachers were not figures of respect or gratitude; they were incompetents and buffoons. Dont get me wrong: like most people, I had some terrible teachers. Incompetents and worse. But like most people Ive also had some terrible friends, some terrible co-workers, some terrible neighbors, some terrible doctors, some terrible editors, and some terrible professors. Mediocrity, Id venture, is a more or less universal feature of the human condition. But among the upper classes its treated as the exclusive preserve of teachers.
Its odd. Even if youre the most toolish striveri.e., many of the people I grew up withteachers are your ticket to the Ivy League. And if youre an intellectually ambitious academic type like me, theyre even more critical. Like I said, people move to Chappaqua for the schools, and if the graduation and post-graduate statistics are any indicationin my graduating class of 270, Id guess about 50 of us went onto an Ivy League schooltheyre getting their moneys worth. Yet many people I grew up with treated teachers as bumptious figures of ridiculeand not in your anarchist-critique-of-all-social-institutions kind of way.
Its clear where the kids got it from: the parents. Every year thered be a fight in the town over the school budget, and every year a vocal contingent would scream that the town was wasting money (and raising needless taxes) on its schools. Especially on the teachers (I never heard anyone criticize the sports teams). People hate paying taxes for any number of reasonsthough financial hardship, in this case, was hardly one of thembut there was a special pique reserved for what the taxes were mostly going to: the teachers.
In my childhood world, grown ups basically saw teachers as failures and fuck-ups. Those who cant do, teach goes the old saw. But where that traditionally bespoke a suspicion of fancy ideas that didnt produce anything concrete, in my fancy suburb, it meant something else. Teachers had opted out of the capitalist game; they werent in this world for money. There could be only one reason for that: they were losers. They were dimwitted, unambitious, complacent, unimaginative, and risk-averse. They were middle class.
Full story: http://laborspains.blogspot.com/2012/09/why-do-people-hate-teachers-unions.html
Originally published here: http://coreyrobin.com/2012/09/12/why-people-do-hate-teachers-unions-because-they-hate-teachers/
tama
(9,137 posts)Last time heard that from more than one teacher in gardening school I studied. Good teachers do a lot of self-irony and don't take themselves too seriously, and can keep pupils awake with a good joke and laugh now and then. All those who said so of themselves were good teachers and gardeners of us gardener sprouts. Not all teachers in the school were good teachers, there were also horribly bad teachers with no none so ever talent for the job. But even those add to the big picture and give nice memories to share and talk about.
And there was also one rare gift of Teacher of not only gardening, but of deep mysteries of wisdom that open hearts and minds and make profound changes for good in many of their students.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Everything jerk off's don't want to do.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)be an issue. They should live in "genteel poverty. (sarcasm)
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)Memorizing, learning by rote, teaching to the lowest common denominator is making our children hate learning and that is criminal in and of itself.
Finding ways to keep the love of learning alive in kids and moving it along into paths of intelligent process that help feed the need to know... sigh maybe I should go back to school and become a teacher. Be a great political fight.
oldsarge54
(582 posts)Seriously, Teachers are rated by their student's test results. Essentially, teachers can only get creative after the testing season ends. By that time, spring is in the air and kids are already tasting summer vacation. Now in Texas, they (politicians, not teachers) added a provision that if you cannot pass your annual tests, you cannot be promoted. You talk about "teaching to the lowest common denominator" when we view as "I refuse to let even one child fail, no matter what." Guess what. Not one of mine failed. Extra tutoring on Saturdays (unpaid), afternoon workshops, we did it.
It was after the (heartfelt expletive deleted) tests were over that I could get creative.
Understand, I was no kid when I started teaching. I had already finished 25 years in the Air Force, then I went into teaching, as I had already planned to do when in High School (president, Future Teachers of America in HS). I deliberate chose to work in a district that serviced "the projects" in order to make a difference.
My life was not to become rich, at least in the $ sense. I served my country, my community, and in my own small way my God.
Tigress DEM
(7,887 posts)We elect the bozos after all. AND we buy the sales pitches they sell.
No child left behind, if it had actually been funded and run on small class size might have been helpful, but as an unfunded mandate, it's a train wreck.
Some evaluation and pushing for excellence is awesome, but it takes more to really reach a kid and kept the love of learning alive inside.
oldsarge54
(582 posts)I might also point out that my teaching experience is in Texas, a "right to work state" and unions, if you excuse the phrase, are toothless tigers. Blaming teacher unions down here are like blaming ghosts. "The ain't no such thang."
demosincebirth
(12,536 posts)ladym55
(2,577 posts)College professor? "Ivory tower idealist with no real-world experience"
Teacher? "Easy life ... only work 9 months from 9 to 3"
Countries that succeed value education ... and I mean VALUE EDUCATION, which includes valuing TEACHERS. (gasp) How on earth can teachers teach and students learn when the teacher has a class of 40 kindergarteners, many of whom didn't have breakfast that day? The classrooms are falling apart? There aren't enough books for the kids in the class?
Having come of age in a time and place where I got an excellent education, I weep to see what has happened. Education has been undermined from every direction.
To today's teachers ... I salute you. You are doing good work under awful conditions. You and your students deserve better.
Bozita
(26,955 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)and I've only seen that mindset grow over the years, to the point where telling friends or relatives your career goal is to be a teacher is met with disbelief, sympathy, dire warnings, etc...
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)Whatever one thinks of teachers, can we really do without them? I mean with all badmouthing, politics and insulting pay, why would anyone want to be a teacher? And home schooling is not the answer. This is happening in my own family and I can't think of a better way to create sociopaths. I have a 14-year-old cousin who has never seen the inside of a real school and he's one the worst teenagers I've seen and I've known several including myself. My home life growing up was so violent going to school every day was a relief. My parents fought everyday of my life, in fact the only thing that stopped it was my mother's death and my father disowning me and my brother and our children.
demokatgurrl
(3,931 posts)It's mind-boggling how little teachers are valued. Even on this very site I've seen some posts that frankly shocked me because, caught up in all of the rhetoric about "our tax dollars", many people forget that when we talk about teachers we are not talking about paper-shuffling bureaucrats or meter-readers. These people help to shape our future. Do we want the next generation of voters to be a bunch of dittoheads?
bemildred
(90,061 posts)All attempts to "fix" the schools by blaming some part of the current system will fail, have failed, it's time to drop tbe blame game and look at structure, policy, and administration, which are where the solution lies, the system will work when there are proper incentives in place, promptly and fairly carried out, with plenty of money. You want something that has really spectacularly failed on the public dole, pick on the banking or political systems.