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struggle4progress

(118,281 posts)
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:38 AM Jun 2013

To What Extent Did the Government Monitor Phone, Internet Activity After 9/11?

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BARTON GELLMAN, Senior Fellow, The Century Foundation: It revealed an immense amount. It's 50-some pages and it's a -- it's a look back on the operation that was known inside the NSA as Stellar Wind and was actually we now know four separate programs ...

BARTON GELLMAN: Well, the brief history of it is that it was invented largely by Vice President Dick Cheney and his lawyer David Addington, with the help of Mike Hayden, who was running the NSA.

The Justice Department had secret opinions written by John Yoo, who's the same guy who wrote the torture opinions and some others that became quite controversial later. And when Jack Goldsmith became the head of the Office of Legal Council at the Justice Department by around the end of 2003, he started to become convinced there was a big problem with this program.

In March of 2004, Comey -- sorry -- Goldsmith and Jim Comey, who's the deputy attorney general, convince Attorney General John Ashcroft that he has to say no to part of it. And then John Ashcroft becomes quite sick. Comey has the confrontation with Cheney and eventually with the president and nearly resigns

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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/nation/jan-june13/snowden2_06-28.html

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To What Extent Did the Government Monitor Phone, Internet Activity After 9/11? (Original Post) struggle4progress Jun 2013 OP
If you actually get an answer to that here mindwalker_i Jun 2013 #1
Here's a nice old IWW song struggle4progress Jun 2013 #2
Ironically, probably to a lesser degree than today. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #3
too bad they didn't do this to Wall Street. yurbud Jun 2013 #4

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
1. If you actually get an answer to that here
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:42 AM
Jun 2013

You will be sharing America's secrets (of it's lawlessness) and will be a traitor/communist/terrorist. Why do you hate America?

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
3. Ironically, probably to a lesser degree than today.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:57 AM
Jun 2013

Last edited Sat Jun 29, 2013, 04:04 AM - Edit history (1)

Make no mistake - they wanted TIA - but the infrastructure took years to be built. What we have today is TIA - just marketed differently. They decided that TIA was too honest a marketing approach. So they compartementalized.

edit: standard-iphone excuse. I can't seem to post w/o typos when using it. I should just stick to posting fromy my laptop.

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