“He had a belt that had holes in it, and every time he would hit me it ..."
He had a belt that had holes in it, and every time he would hit me it would suck the skin from my behind.
Reconstructing what happened at Dozier School for Boys - site photos, video and article.
At least 96 children died at Dozier between 1914 and 1973, according to school records, and while state officials say theres no proof, former students insist that some of the deaths were the result of foul play. Boys of all races were routinely, brutally, and even fatally beaten by staff, they allege; some were raped, and runners were fired uponat least seven kids were reported dead after trying to escape.
Tens of thousands of boys passed through Doziers gates between its founding in 1900 and 2011, when Florida officials shut it down (citing budgetary reasons) amid a Justice Department investigation that found ongoing systemic, egregious, and dangerous practices at the school.
At a state hearing last August, after years of agitating by former Dozier boys, researchers from the University of South Florida got permission to unearth bodies from the grounds and run tests to determine who those boys wereand how they died. Last month, the scientists came out with an announcement that was disturbing, if not surprising. They had excavated 55 sets of remains at Doziers Boot Hill cemetery, 5 more than theyd originally identified, and 24 more than were indicated in the schools official records. Other campus locations remain to be searched....
And here is an opportunity to add a bit of a grin to a disturbingly sad story - a random connection to our esteemed Admin's handle.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/returning-to-dozier-florida-school-for-boys
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)We need to stop this slavery by our private 'for profit' prisons or we will never get out of this shameful rut.
Gaddys job was to haul trash to the black side for burial. One time, I saw a boys hand in the garbage, he says. I asked, What's a hand doing in there? And a boy said, Dont ever mention that to nobody, because you can end up like that. So I didn't mention it to nobody. I was at the hog pen and I saw a foot in the slop. By that time, I knew not to mention it.
Doubt they will ever have a true count of how many died. Forensic archeologist's will I am sure have some true reports in future. They should dig up the old pig pens and look for more human bones.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)monmouth3
(3,871 posts)these men.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)I don't believe that it could have been any fun. That sounds like abuse to me.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)She could never understand why they kept disappearing.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)usual stuff. Ironic - he was a pretty nice guy otherwise. Provided well, worked hard, took care of us, wasn't a drinker at all (he was beaten by his dad who was a drunk. His dad was eventually beaten by my grandma with an iron skillet as she ran his ass off).
I'm just not much on feeling sorry for myself about my past, unless there is something that can be changed, more of a "what doesn't kill you can make you stronger" sort of person. In this case he's dead, so that part's over, eh? And I'm still here.
Not alone. I suspect it's not unlike the experience of tens of thousands of men-to-be in this society. It's what they were taught as children, kids. I hear people wonder why such kids grow up hurting others, being fearful, etc. I just wonder why people can't figure it out.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)emotionally from it.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)and get anywhere, eh? If one doesn't deal with it, and then move on, they can get stuck. I've met people like that throughout my life, and it's a tough rut to get out of.
But thank you for the hug
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)45 years ago and I still the scar from his wedding ring.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Worse, most people in an abusive situation think they are alone, which is the biggest reason it continues like it does, I think. Even reaching out is a risk, and the abuser of males often puts it into your head early that such a thing is a sign of weakness, and society reinforces a lot of it. Mind control.
If we could make ourselves into a union we could show each other we really aren't alone. Ironically, however, we are all broken to some extent, and most really have no intervention that is worth a shit, so hanging together becomes really problematic.
But we go on, yes? And if a few just try to do a little better than they did, it will be better than it could have been. And if we get more than that, great.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Handed down from parent to child.
That it's still celebrated in segments of society makes it that much harder to talk about, especially publicly when you're not sure of who your audience is.