Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 02:10 PM Feb 2014

“He had a belt that had holes in it, and every time he would hit me it ..."

“He had a belt that had holes in it, and every time he would hit me it would suck the skin from my behind.”

Reconstructing what happened at Dozier School for Boys - site photos, video and article.



In early August, a few weeks before forensic scientists began exhuming dozens of unmarked graves at the Arthur G. Dozier School for Boys, five older black men took a road trip to Marianna, a rural town on the Florida panhandle—historic Klan country—to confront their demons on the reform school’s vast, wooded campus.

At least 96 children died at Dozier between 1914 and 1973, according to school records, and while state officials say there’s no proof, former students insist that some of the deaths were the result of foul play. Boys of all races were routinely, brutally, and even fatally beaten by staff, they allege; some were raped, and “runners” were fired upon—at least seven kids were reported dead after trying to escape.

Tens of thousands of boys passed through Dozier’s gates between its founding in 1900 and 2011, when Florida officials shut it down (citing budgetary reasons) amid a Justice Department investigation that found ongoing “systemic, egregious, and dangerous practices” at the school.

At a state hearing last August, after years of agitating by former Dozier boys, researchers from the University of South Florida got permission to unearth bodies from the grounds and run tests to determine who those boys were—and how they died. Last month, the scientists came out with an announcement that was disturbing, if not surprising. They had excavated 55 sets of remains at Dozier’s Boot Hill cemetery, 5 more than they’d originally identified, and 24 more than were indicated in the school’s official records. Other campus locations remain to be searched....




And here is an opportunity to add a bit of a grin to a disturbingly sad story - a random connection to our esteemed Admin's handle.


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/02/returning-to-dozier-florida-school-for-boys
14 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
1. Mother Jones, about last top flight Journalism left in America.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 02:28 PM
Feb 2014

We need to stop this slavery by our private 'for profit' prisons or we will never get out of this shameful rut.

Gaddy’s job was to haul trash to the black side for burial. “One time, I saw a boy’s hand in the garbage, ” he says. “I asked, ‘What's a hand doing in there?’ And a boy said, ‘Don’t ever mention that to nobody, because you can end up like that.’ So I didn't mention it to nobody. I was at the hog pen and I saw a foot in the slop. By that time, I knew not to mention it.”

Doubt they will ever have a true count of how many died. Forensic archeologist's will I am sure have some true reports in future. They should dig up the old pig pens and look for more human bones.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
3. Not only Skinner but R. Scott (Gov. of Florida) made that list. Hope this is a healing event for
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 02:54 PM
Feb 2014

these men.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
7. Yeah, well, long time ago. There were the beatings, chaining to the fence,
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:15 PM
Feb 2014

usual stuff. Ironic - he was a pretty nice guy otherwise. Provided well, worked hard, took care of us, wasn't a drinker at all (he was beaten by his dad who was a drunk. His dad was eventually beaten by my grandma with an iron skillet as she ran his ass off).

I'm just not much on feeling sorry for myself about my past, unless there is something that can be changed, more of a "what doesn't kill you can make you stronger" sort of person. In this case he's dead, so that part's over, eh? And I'm still here.

Not alone. I suspect it's not unlike the experience of tens of thousands of men-to-be in this society. It's what they were taught as children, kids. I hear people wonder why such kids grow up hurting others, being fearful, etc. I just wonder why people can't figure it out.









 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
10. I don't know how recovered I am, but you can't live in the past
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:02 PM
Feb 2014

and get anywhere, eh? If one doesn't deal with it, and then move on, they can get stuck. I've met people like that throughout my life, and it's a tough rut to get out of.

But thank you for the hug

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
9. My dad liked to use a wire coat hanger until he started using his fists.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:29 PM
Feb 2014

45 years ago and I still the scar from his wedding ring.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
11. I don't think people have a clue as to how prevalent this is/was.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:12 PM
Feb 2014

Worse, most people in an abusive situation think they are alone, which is the biggest reason it continues like it does, I think. Even reaching out is a risk, and the abuser of males often puts it into your head early that such a thing is a sign of weakness, and society reinforces a lot of it. Mind control.

If we could make ourselves into a union we could show each other we really aren't alone. Ironically, however, we are all broken to some extent, and most really have no intervention that is worth a shit, so hanging together becomes really problematic.

But we go on, yes? And if a few just try to do a little better than they did, it will be better than it could have been. And if we get more than that, great.






kristopher

(29,798 posts)
12. Physical abuse of children is, quite literally, a cultural tradition.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:15 PM
Feb 2014

Handed down from parent to child.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
14. +1
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:30 PM
Feb 2014

That it's still celebrated in segments of society makes it that much harder to talk about, especially publicly when you're not sure of who your audience is.

Latest Discussions»Issue Forums»Editorials & Other Articles»“He had a belt that had h...