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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:11 AM Mar 2014

Hillary Clinton Shows How To Correctly Compare A Situation To Hitler And Nazi Germany


Hillary Clinton Shows How To Correctly Compare A Situation To Hitler And Nazi Germany

Former Secretary of State, and presumptive 2016 Democratic Presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton was at a fundraiser for the Long Beach Boys and Girls Club on Tuesday night. During the event, she discussed the situation between Ukraine and Russia at length. These were Mrs. Clinton’s first statements since the Ukrainian crisis flared up. In her remarks, she mentioned that there were parallels between that of Vladmir Putin and Russia and what Hitler and Nazi Germany did in the 1930s in the run-up to World War II.

“Now if this sounds familiar, it’s what Hitler did back in the 30s. All the Germans that were … the ethnic Germans, the Germans by ancestry who were in places like Czechoslovakia and Romania and other places, Hitler kept saying they’re not being treated right. I must go and protect my people and that’s what’s gotten everybody so nervous.”


Clinton was referring to the justification that Germany used to invade other countries or areas like Austria, Poland and Czechoslovakia in the late ’30s. Hitler stated then that he was concerned for the well-being of ethnic Germans and that he was looking out for their best interests. Therefore, Germans in Europe needed the protection of the German government and military, meaning countries with significant German populations needed to be annexed.

Clinton feels that Putin is using a similar justification to invade and occupy the Crimean region of Ukraine. The Russian government is handing out passports to ethnic Russians in Crimea and Putin has claimed that his main concern is for the Russian people living in Crimea during a period of instability within the Ukrainian government. At the same time, Putin has also stated that he has not sent in troops to the region (despite 16,000 Russian troops and military vehicles already verified to be there and captured on video) and that any military force shown in the region are local self-defense forces. Any efforts he has made so far in Ukraine are just for humanitarian purposes, per Putin.

In this instance, Clinton did not use hyperbole. While the mention of Hitler and Nazis typically makes one’s eyes roll over, as it is usually done in a completely inappropriate manner, Clinton correctly compared the two situations. She was also careful to state that Putin does not appear to be as irrational as Hitler and that she doesn’t think that this will lead to a World War-type scenario. However, Putin appears to be using the same arguments for invading a sovereign nation that Hitler did in the ’30s.

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Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/2014/03/05/hillary-clinton-shows-correctly-compare-situation-hitler-nazi-germany.html



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Hillary Clinton Shows How To Correctly Compare A Situation To Hitler And Nazi Germany (Original Post) Tx4obama Mar 2014 OP
No, still not a correct comparison. morningfog Mar 2014 #1
Name a "correct comparison" please eom DonViejo Mar 2014 #2
There isn't one that is acceptable for a public person to use. . pipoman Mar 2014 #4
One not being made to Hitler, for starters. morningfog Mar 2014 #9
Why? The strategy Putin is using in the Crimea... DonViejo Mar 2014 #10
No it isn't. This is a case of a power vacuum morningfog Mar 2014 #11
Obviously we disagree but, please provide me with a situation DonViejo Mar 2014 #12
Yes it is Caretha Mar 2014 #14
+1. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #15
I think it's good she spoke out.. and too bad "hitler" is so over used by Cha Mar 2014 #19
I loved her analysis bc it is right on the mark. I tweeted underthematrix Mar 2014 #3
That's some ugly spin pscot Mar 2014 #5
That's how the war in Kosovo started too. nt SunSeeker Mar 2014 #6
The comparison was inappropriate JayhawkSD Mar 2014 #7
Glad she ain't POTUS or SoS. Wilms Mar 2014 #8
Not so much wrong as just pointless. bemildred Mar 2014 #13
Trotting out this kind of language will only make hurt the Dems when morningfog Mar 2014 #16
I think it shows a lack of imagination. bemildred Mar 2014 #17
Kick! Cha Mar 2014 #18

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
10. Why? The strategy Putin is using in the Crimea...
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:25 AM
Mar 2014

is eerily similar to that employed by Hitler to "save the Germans" living in Poland, and Czechoslovakia when he and his Nazi government first began its expansion in Europe.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
11. No it isn't. This is a case of a power vacuum
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:28 AM
Mar 2014

Bordering a late and powerful nation. The motivation is not analogous. It is incendiary to invoke hitler and nazis. It is offensive, simple-minded and stupid.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
12. Obviously we disagree but, please provide me with a situation
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:32 AM
Mar 2014

that is more analogous to what Putin is doing. As a Jew, I don't have a problem with her comparison.

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
14. Yes it is
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 10:51 AM
Mar 2014

You are absolutely correct. Simple-minded and stupid is milder than the way I would put it. I certainly have had my doubts about Hillary being the Democratic Presidential nominee for our party due to many of her votes as Senator, but this is hyperbolic (regardless of the journalist claiming it is not in the article) it's unhelpful - lacks imagination - maturity - and is not what I look for in a Presidential candidate. It sounds more like what Ronald Reagan - George Bush II or Dick Cheney would spout.

I'm ashamed that she would stoop so low.

Cha

(295,899 posts)
19. I think it's good she spoke out.. and too bad "hitler" is so over used by
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:33 PM
Mar 2014

the morons in the rw. Does that mean nobody can ever utter his name again when warranted?

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
3. I loved her analysis bc it is right on the mark. I tweeted
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 12:25 AM
Mar 2014

a shorthand version of what HRC said. It was perfect.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
7. The comparison was inappropriate
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 02:37 AM
Mar 2014
"She was also careful to state that Putin does not appear to be as irrational as Hitler and that she doesn’t think that this will lead to a World War-type scenario."

Her own words render her comparison hyperbolic. Hitler's end game was vastly different, as was his purpose, as were the real provocations involved at the time. She is invoking a scenario with one breath and revoking it with the next, which is almost the definition of hyperbole.
 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
8. Glad she ain't POTUS or SoS.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 04:52 AM
Mar 2014

Hope it stays that way.

Besides, she probably likes being out of public office so she has more time to spend with her corporate pals at >$200K per clip.

Nice work.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
13. Not so much wrong as just pointless.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 09:40 AM
Mar 2014

If Pooty-Poot is like Hitler, we might as well just blow the world up now and be done with it.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
16. Trotting out this kind of language will only make hurt the Dems when
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:15 PM
Mar 2014

the US doesn't do anything. You cannot simultaneously compare Putin to Hitler and NOT do something about it.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
17. I think it shows a lack of imagination.
Thu Mar 6, 2014, 03:27 PM
Mar 2014

It's such a cliche that there is an internet law forbidding it, and yet there she is spouting it. Not Stalin, Not Mao, not Pol Pot, it has to be Hitler. Pure PR babble.

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