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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 11:54 AM Mar 2014

U.S. Keeps Saudi Arabia’s Worst Secret (actually distant second worst)

Their worst secret is their government's involvement in 9/11, which was outlined in the 28 pages of the Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 that the Bush administration classified.

Here's some of what might be in there:


http://professorsmartass.blogspot.com/2008/03/foia-doc-shows-911commission-lied-about.html

On the other hand, this article is a good reminder of how the Saudis prime their people fight abroad as the did in Afghanistan in the 80's with bin Laden and in Iraq in the last decade.

There was some good reporting on this right after 9/11 even by the networks, but once they got their talking points on Iraq, it was forgotten.

Maybe this article represents a shift in Washington to open that door a crack since we don't need Saudi oil quite that much.

As President Obama prepares for his first visit of his second term to Saudi Arabia, pressure is mounting on the State Department to publish the most comprehensive U.S. government study of the Kingdom’s textbooks.

While the study has been finished since the end of 2012, it has nonetheless been kept from the public, according to a new report by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a center-right think tank in Washington.

The report, shared with The Daily Beast ahead of publication Tuesday, says, “The State Department is in possession of a uniquely exhaustive set of recent findings about incitement in Saudi Arabia's education system, findings that it has declined to release for public consumption.”

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Often these textbooks promote the kind of religious chauvinism embraced by Sunni terror groups like al Qaeda. A June 12, 2006 cable from the U.S. embassy in Riyadh disclosed by WikiLeaks highlights this kind of bigotry. It says an eighth grade textbook for example says, “God will punish any Muslim who does not literally obey God just as God punished some Jews by turning them into pigs and monkeys.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/03/25/u-s-keeps-saudi-arabia-s-worst-secret.html
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U.S. Keeps Saudi Arabia’s Worst Secret (actually distant second worst) (Original Post) yurbud Mar 2014 OP
Ah, the Saudis, our friends. Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #1
they are the friends of a very, very few Americans. And like every other country in the world.... yurbud Mar 2014 #2
No kidding, they are oppressed by their government each and every time they dare Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #3
I was adding the caveat for my original post as much as anything else yurbud Mar 2014 #5
You're welcome. Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #6
There is likely more pages polynomial Mar 2014 #4
Obama and the Saudi Agenda Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #7

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
2. they are the friends of a very, very few Americans. And like every other country in the world....
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:27 PM
Mar 2014

average Saudis do not necessarily agree with what their government is doing.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
3. No kidding, they are oppressed by their government each and every time they dare
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 12:30 PM
Mar 2014

revolt against it. If it is not heavy handed measures it is money that is thrown at them
to quell their dissent.

My sarcasm was directed more at the assholes GW and company.

polynomial

(750 posts)
4. There is likely more pages
Tue Mar 25, 2014, 03:54 PM
Mar 2014

That question keeps popping up on how the average America can be safe.

This same terror culture of fear with retribution and retaliation exists in America business, when many hear the famous saying “you’re lucky to have a job”.

That being said makes many wonder how in the world such a system existed in what is posed to be a free market in business that solves economic issues better without government controls but wants bailout tax dollars after screwing up. Bush, father and son now being revealed to profiteer the public as long time business friends of the Bin Laden family makes us all realize 911 was very connected to Bush and company.

We all are starting to understand the penetrating disservice the old Republican system delivered along with skills to dictate key needs of an eerie plan, too big to fail with important issues ditched by key player in the media with clever riddles of bias that manipulates a obvious redacting process, scales through the corporate chain of command to service the profiteering bandits Bush, Cheney and the Arabs that’s complicit to our mainstream media.

What we have in America is a scarcity of honesty, however an abundance of loyalty is prolific in the domain of business, in that mainstream media underscores the ubiquitous notion of being railroaded. Media and our secret Congress is the train wreck in America.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. Obama and the Saudi Agenda
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 01:42 PM
Mar 2014

TOBY C. JONES, ASSOC. PROF OF HISTORY, RUTGERS UNIVERSITY: Thanks, Paul.

JAY: So, President Obama is supposed to go be in Saudi Arabia and play nice, but there's some serious divergence in Saudi-American plans here, although I'm not so sure there is when it comes to the long haul. But what's your take on all of this?

JONES: Well, I actually think over the long haul there are bigger questions about what the relationship will look like going forward. In the moment, I think you put your finger on precisely the two biggest sources of frustration and anxiety from the perspective of Riyadh, and that is that the United States has not been wholly supportive of Saudi Arabia's ambition to tip the regional balance of power in their favor, either in Cairo or in Syria. Saudi Arabia's been playing a dangerous game, escalating, you know, sort of a crackdown against the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo, at least encouraging it, as well as playing up Islamist forces in their bid to topple Assad in Syria. While the U.S. would like to see Assad fall, they're concerned long-term about the threat of terrorism and other kinds of regional developments that could come from Saudi Arabia's sort of narrow-minded approach to regional politics. And so the Americans and the Saudis fundamentally disagree on some pretty important matters.

At the heart of today's meeting is likely going to be, you know, sort of the question, how do you reconcile those disagreements with what both sides agree has been a productive, profitable, and meaningful relationship?

JAY: Now, at the heart of the disagreement, it's actually quite profound. I take back what I said--in the long haul, maybe not quite so divergent--if you look at this issue, this issue being that the Americans can live with managing the outcome of the Arab revolutions if they can manage the process so they become essentially neoliberal capitalist economies with some kind of form of, you know, neoliberal capitalist democracy, and which--essentially what the Muslim Brotherhood seemed to be willing to engineer.

But in the long run, the Americans, I think, do understand that one way or the other, the peoples of most of these Arab countries are going to rise up again. And in the long run, they want to manage that process in American interest. But that type of managing is seen by the Saudis as an existential threat to their monarchy.

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=11660

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