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marmar

(77,067 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 07:36 PM Jan 2012

Bernie Sanders: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy


We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy
Unless we can reverse the supreme court's dreadful Citizens United decision, US politics will become a plutocrats' plaything

Bernie Sanders
guardian.co.uk, Friday 20 January 2012


The corporate barbarians are through the gate of American democracy. Not satisfied with their all-pervasive influence on our culture, economy and legislative processes, they want more. They want it all.

Two years ago, the United States supreme court betrayed our Constitution and those who fought to ensure that its protections are enjoyed equally by all persons regardless of religion, race or gender by engaging in an unabashed power-grab on behalf of corporate America. In its now infamous decision in the Citizens United case, five justices declared that corporations must be treated as if they are actual people under the Constitution when it comes to spending money to influence our elections, allowing them for the first time to draw on the corporate checkbook – in any amount and at any time – to run ads explicitly for or against specific candidates.

What's next … a corporate right to vote?

Don't laugh. Just this month, the Republican National Committee filed an amicus brief in a US appeals court contending that the natural extension of the Citizens United rationale is that the century-old ban on corporate contributions directly to candidates and political parties is similarly unconstitutional. They want corporations to be able to sponsor candidates and parties directly while claiming with a straight face this would not result in any sort of corruption. And while, this month, they take no issue with corporations being subject to the existing contribution limits, anyone paying attention knows that eliminating such caps will be corporate America's next prize in its brazen ambition for absolute control over our elections. ...................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/jan/20/us-constitution-and-civil-liberties-us-supreme-court



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Bernie Sanders: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy (Original Post) marmar Jan 2012 OP
There is some thing very wrong with our system of balance of powers rhett o rick Jan 2012 #1
Corporate control of the government equals fascism. Guy Montag Jan 2012 #2
and repukes have the NERVE to whine about SOROS Skittles Jan 2012 #3
Does anyone else think this outrage is too little too late? harmonicon Jan 2012 #4
Our goal should be to FIRE every Republican... from all elected offices nationwide txlibdem Jan 2012 #5
Who would we put in their place? harmonicon Jan 2012 #6
Whatever gave you that idea? txlibdem Jan 2012 #8
How do we get that? harmonicon Jan 2012 #9
Don't forget Grayson and Sanders in your list. txlibdem Jan 2012 #10
That's my point. harmonicon Jan 2012 #13
While the DLC marginalized Kucinich as he made his 2008 bid for truedelphi Jan 2012 #11
I'm not going to complain about what Obama's done. harmonicon Jan 2012 #14
I agree we need to stop corporate America from completely taking over, City Lights Jan 2012 #7
RECOMMENDED! Bill USA Jan 2012 #12
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
1. There is some thing very wrong with our system of balance of powers
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jan 2012

when the SCOTUS can make laws and they can not be changed by the other two branches of government.

The SCOTUS is acting well beyond their authority granted by the Constitution. But how do we reduce their powers as they have set themselves up as the deciders of what the Constitution says.

Marbury v Madison needs to be undone.

Guy Montag

(126 posts)
2. Corporate control of the government equals fascism.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 03:37 AM
Jan 2012

The idea that if it is good for business it is by extension good for the people is a dangerous cancer that must be aggressively expunged from the U.S. government.

We are doomed if we don't do this, and we already have slipped so far down the slippery slope to where we could not be in this regard it terrifies me.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
4. Does anyone else think this outrage is too little too late?
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jan 2012

We'd have the government we have now regardless of Citizens United. Was the way those elections were funded really free and fair? I don't think so, but the bulk of congressmen seemed pleased enough with them to not make a big deal out of campaign finance reform (when they did, it was usually in relatively small ways). It just seems to me that the people who were in a position to stop or turn the car when it was headed for a cliff are now complaining about it going over the cliff. Still, they just want to go back to where they were just before they drove over, without going back to question the steps that got them there.

txlibdem

(6,183 posts)
5. Our goal should be to FIRE every Republican... from all elected offices nationwide
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:34 AM
Jan 2012

Clean sweep. Kick the bums out so we can get our democracy back.

(one can dream anyway)

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
6. Who would we put in their place?
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:38 AM
Jan 2012

How much was really accomplished in the 4 years that we had a Democratic congress? We're not doing ourselves any favours by just electing anyone with a D next to their name. We'd have a better chance at making a change with a smaller, more unified party than with a giant party that stands only for not being Republicans.

txlibdem

(6,183 posts)
8. Whatever gave you that idea?
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:50 AM
Jan 2012

Of course we replace them all with *actual* Democrats. And we should expect each Democrat to vote WITH the President... or face losing all their seats on committees. We need firebrand Democrats who are ready to fight tooth and nail to get this country back from the 1% and their sycophants.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
9. How do we get that?
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:56 AM
Jan 2012

Too many who presently hold positions of power are spineless, so who would enforce these things? They didn't even kick Lieberman off of his committees - a guy who is not only not a Democrat by name, but who campaigned for Republicans. The party leaders seem more than happy to keep on pushing spineless twits while marginalizing folks like Kucinich and Weiner.

txlibdem

(6,183 posts)
10. Don't forget Grayson and Sanders in your list.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:45 PM
Jan 2012

How do we get that? It's not going to be possible if we keep electing millionaires to office. What we need to do is to elect the local party organizers; people who pound the streets and do the real work for the Democratic party. I'm done voting a millionaire into office only to be stabbed in the back by their collusion with the millionaires in the other party for the benefit of only millionaires and billionaires and to the detriment of the poor and middle class.

harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
13. That's my point.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:53 PM
Jan 2012

If we keep pressing Democrat victory at all costs (one of the costs being having shitty candidates who turn into shitty congressmen because they either have, or can raise, lots of money), nothing will change. Instead of worrying so much about electoral victory, I think we ought to be worried about having a platform which is consistent throughout the party.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
11. While the DLC marginalized Kucinich as he made his 2008 bid for
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 05:59 PM
Jan 2012

Being nominated the Democratic Party candidate, they did him the courtesy of taking all his top talking points and using them to enable Barack Obama to look extremely progressive during the final 28 days leading up to the Nov 2008 election.

Watching Obama talking to crowds in Wisconsin, recorded for anyone to view on YouTube, is an exercise in nostalgia and worse. If only he had actually realized what we thought he meant.

If only he had cared enough to fight one or two battles to get some of the things he spoke of. In October 2008, he pulled votes away from Hillary Clinton, because so many of us wanted to believe that he would not be as friendly to Corporate Interests as her husband had been. Only to see the same economic people in place, and also the same Monsanto clones.

And now the choice will be between him and someone even friendlier to Corporate Interests. Some choice.







harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
14. I'm not going to complain about what Obama's done.
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:57 PM
Jan 2012

I knew more-or-less what I was getting when I voted for him; he's a pretty conservative guy. What's crazy is that even joe-schmoes here on DU pressed having him or Clinton as the candidate because they were "electable". I personally don't think that's really something worth having a feeling about. This is OUR government after all. Someone is going to be elected. People need to stop complaining when they don't get what they want when they didn't vote for someone who promised what they wanted in favour of someone else because that other person was "electable".

City Lights

(25,171 posts)
7. I agree we need to stop corporate America from completely taking over,
Mon Jan 23, 2012, 10:49 AM
Jan 2012

however, I don't see a Constitutional amendment passing anytime soon. We are too divided. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe people will eventually learn to take political ads with a grain of salt.

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