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Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:37 PM

Doctor Shows Video Describing How Bullets Explode inside Body in front of Senate Judiciary Committee



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Reply Doctor Shows Video Describing How Bullets Explode inside Body in front of Senate Judiciary Committee (Original post)
FourScore Mar 2013 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2013 #1
Baitball Blogger Mar 2013 #2
ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #3
xtraxritical Mar 2013 #16
ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #17
Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #4
Xipe Totec Mar 2013 #5
Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #8
pacalo Mar 2013 #7
Duckhunter935 Mar 2013 #9
RedstDem Mar 2013 #6
geologic Mar 2013 #10
RedstDem Mar 2013 #15
geologic Mar 2013 #11
geologic Mar 2013 #12
ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2013 #14
Nitram Mar 2013 #13

Response to FourScore (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 07:48 PM

1. And all I can think is...

Shame on anyone who will not stop these types of assault weapons from being available to the public.

I really cannot express how sick the video made me.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:08 PM

2. Scaring some sense into them may be all we have left.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:10 PM

3. The exact same bullets are also used in regular firearms with similar results

While "assault weapons" are a made up term, even "non-assault weapons" fire the exact same bullets with the same results.

Military rounds (FMJ) do not "explode" when they hit flesh. Claims that they do are total bullshit. Hunting rounds open up, and that is required by law.

Does anybody know if Lanza used hunting or military rounds?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 01:23 PM

16. Another death expert, gee thanks.

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 07:04 PM

17. You are quite welcome.

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BTDT, got the medals...

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:11 PM

4. Ballistics gel, not a body

 

All bullets do that type of damage. What type of bullet was he using? I would assume not FMJ as they do not explode. Does not matter what type of rifle it is either. A bolt action will cause that and also all of the semi-auto types that the senator does not ban since they have no pistol grip.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:32 PM

5. All bullets do that type of damage? Are you sure?

Because my understanding is that Dum Dum bullets were developed because the predecessor bullets, the Cartridge S.A. Ball, Magazine Rifle Cordite Mark I’, later to become the ‘Mark II’, was disliked because it tended to go through the enemy cleanly with hardly any damage. During the opening skirmishes in the Chitral expedition in India rumors started to spread of tribesmen who were still able to
fight even after they had been hit by several bullets.

http://pfoa.co.uk/uploads/asset_file/Dum-Dum%20Bullets_1.pdf

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:48 PM

8. I stand corrected

 

That was not what I meant and yes that is also why I was asking about the bullet type. Military ammo will not expand or explode as far as I know due to laws of war. Hunting rounds and self defense rounds typically expand to do more damage to stop a person or keep the animal from suffering.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:47 PM

7. Imagining any bullets fired by an assault weapon into the flesh of those little bodies

is sufficiently horrifying to me.

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Response to pacalo (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:50 PM

9. any weapon

 

does not matter if it is a so called assault weapon. Handgun, shotgun .................

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 08:46 PM

6. there will be no gun control in the usa until

 

someone shoots up a favorite drinking hole of the congress-critters, or a NASCAR race, or some such thing where lots of RW's lose their lives, unfortunately.

they cannot relate to anything until it happens to them.

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Response to RedstDem (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:27 PM

10. WOW...

 

...you must be the DU version of Glen Beck--
or worse...

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Response to geologic (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 10:19 AM

15. I'm way crazyer than Beck

 

i consider RW's traitors to the USA, and you know what happens to traitors.

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Response to RedstDem (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:36 PM

11. Actually, much worse...

 

Beck singles out individuals for, ah,
"attention"--
you be into the mass-type-stuff...

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Response to RedstDem (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 01:28 AM

12. Okay, since this is "video and multimedia" an' all--

 

...

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Response to RedstDem (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 09:38 AM

14. The USA already has substantive gun control

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Response to FourScore (Original post)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 08:54 AM

13. For the sake of accuracy

I think it should be pointed out that there is no "assault rifle" bullet. The ballistic round shown in the video is mainly used by hunters of small targets such as ground hogs to make sure they kill the animal (and not just wound it). It "explodes" on contact. Hunters of larger game such as deer use a bullet that mushrooms, increasing damage but also allowing deeper penetration. The military uses bullets that tumble on penetration, increasing damage but not disintegrating.

I mention this because if you want to be persuasive with reasonable gun owners, you have to be accurate in your discussion of the issues. The doctor here makes a very good point about what happens when multiple bullets strike a child, but loses credibility with knowledgeable people when he suggests that the Sandy Hook shooter used "assault rifle type bullets". The point is made far more effectively if it is factual.

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