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Oklahoma Senator Won't Support Tornado Relief Without Budget Cuts
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Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)Insist on taking away the oil subsidies or no aid for Oklahoma. And we can probably find some more money for Sandy victims too at the expense of other GOP sacred cows. This is the Democrats chance to turn the tables and force the GOP to deal or look like heels in a red state.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)The oil companies are making huge profits, they don't need welfare from the government to prop them up. They sure don't pass on any savings to their customers, gas prices remain high, so we get hit twice for their benefit.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)Unlimited funds for bogus wars and bank bailouts, but nothing for Americans who suffer natural disasters...
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)friend of the crooks and filthy rich but enemy of the rest of us. The rest of us don't seem to get it that the Republican party is out to fleece us.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)maxsolomon
(33,284 posts)Because these 2 are in the Senate until they retire or Jebus calls them home.
npk
(3,660 posts)Real soon apparently.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Guaranteed.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)which is why they need to be taught a lesson. that state will continue to vote these psychopaths into office. The want to be a government-free state, let them.
DippyDem
(659 posts)Cut oil subsidies and agriculture subsidies to OK. Cut salaries of Coburn's staff. Then divert all savings to OK tornado relief. That should be agreeable to Coburn.
Baitball Blogger
(46,698 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)No goofing. Let's do that.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Oh, they already did?
That explains a lot.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Won't change anything, but at least they'll sound funny. At least we'd get something out of the Senate, even if it's only laughter.
another_liberal
(8,821 posts)He should have to face everyone whose Federal disaster relief payments he delays, or axes altogether. I would hope those meetings will be held in locked auditoriums, without the Senator's security detail present.
tblue
(16,350 posts)How do they turn EVERY event into the exact right opportunity to further their agenda? They're always ready on the spot to seize the moment, whether it's a natural disaster or a bombing in Boston or a beautiful sunny day. They take it and use it to get exactly what they've always wanted. Never seen anything like it.
Why can't Dems be prepared like that? We take everything case by case, we consider every point of view, including Republicans', and we too often are left unable to catapult the RW propaganda.
An example I'd like to see right now. POTUS goes on the TV and says, "See? THIS is why we need a federal government. THIS is why we all have to pay taxes. THIS is why we need to ring up these tax cheats and deadbeat corporations. THIS is why we have to stop whining about trivial shit and grow the hell up as a people. Because people suffer and because, as a community, we can ease some of that suffering. Because we can and because, whenever it's possible, we have to."
Laelth
(32,017 posts)That's why most of us will not advocate for policy that we know to be stupid, insane, hypocritical, and bad public policy. The Republicans are not so constrained.
That's the big difference.
-Laelth
groundloop
(11,518 posts)This bastard is taking advantage of a horrible disaster to gain political leverage. Anyone I know who considers themselves liberal or progressive wouldn't dream of that. People who were devastated by that storm need help, both now and in the next year or so. We know that the only entity able to provide help on that kind of scale is the federal government.
calimary
(81,196 posts)Make him explain. Make him tell it to those victims and survivors who have nothing left but their lives - and THEY are the "lucky" ones. So far, unfortunately, there are no consequences for actions like these. And he'll surely get reelected the next time, too, I'm afraid.
XanaDUer
(12,939 posts)On his FB page. And rightly so.
enough
(13,256 posts)tclambert
(11,085 posts)A villain in an old movie (I think Superman III) said that, but it seems to sum up Republican party policy.
titanicdave
(429 posts)bovine excrement.....this butt head won't even vote to help his own state unless the poor and the elderly pay for it in Social Security cuts and Medicare/Medicaid cuts......but keep giving those big tax breaks to the oil companies and other fat cats that fill his coffers.......I am so glad that I do not live in Oklahoma with this jackass as my senator..
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
AAO
(3,300 posts)Or screw the people of OK! I pick the least damaging option.
kairos12
(12,851 posts)will vote to assist the State and he gets to vote against it. He gets his tornado shredded cake and eats it too.
stopbush
(24,395 posts)Perhaps we can reassign the monies used to pay Congress people from OK as part of that strategy.
gopiscrap
(23,736 posts)Flashmann
(2,140 posts)I'm sure he has the complete and unquestioning backing of those who so desperately need that aid.I'm also sure that after causing a delay of days,maybe weeks,in them getting that aid,the victims will be very anxious to get to the polls and cast their votes for Coburn and Inhoffe,again,as well as for the rest of the RW cabal.
I'd use the sarcasm emoticon,except I'm only half joking and sarcastic.
In a sane reality both OK Senators would be tarred,feathered and ridden out of town on a rail!
Chemisse
(30,807 posts)xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)They think he is a gift. Isn't he a ordained minister?
Nope, it is worse - "...Thomas Allen "Tom" Coburn (born March 14, 1948) is a United States Senator, medical doctor and Southern Baptist deacon...."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Coburn
He's an MD?
DissidentVoice
(813 posts)The titles don't mean sweet shine-ola without the convictions to back them up.
As a Christian (Lutheran), I get so damn embarrassed when those on the far right who claim to be Christian unquestioningly buy into the Republican/Objectivist/Social Darwinist/Ron/Rand Paul philosophy of "screw the poor" when both the Jewish Mosaic Law of the Hebrew Bible and the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, St Paul and St James clearly excoriate those who mistreat the poor. If Sen. Coburn is a Southern Baptist Deacon, he should well know this.
If he is a medical doctor, chances are very good that he belongs to the AMA...who have been blocking universal health care for decades. Not exactly in line with the Hippocratic Oath, is it?
As an American and a veteran who once took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States and of my State (I was in the Air National Guard), I get equally embarrassed by those (especially on the Ron/Rand Paul side) who say "it's not the job of government to help the poor, because it's not in the Constitution." How many of these same "hardcore Constitutionalists" would support an amendment guaranteeing universal health care, a living wage, etc?
Of course, Sen. Coburn had no problems with haemorrhaging the blood of our troops and shooting the money of our country down a rat-hole to support G.W. Bush's grudge match against Saddam Hussein.
I am frankly surprised (pleasantly) that Republican Gov. Mary Fallin didn't refuse Federal aid when President Obama reached out to her.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Open your eyes and LOOK at this fuckstain you put into office! WTF is the matter with you?
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)classof56
(5,376 posts)Thoroughly and completely disgusted, yes. Surprised, no. Can't tell you how grateful I am that my parents left Oklahoma when I was an infant. I'd feel worse for family members who still live there, if they weren't such RW fundie neocons who hate our president. I'm guessing even these horrific events won't change their thinking or their votes.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Has anyone thought to provide this pencil necked dick with the chart showing the paydown? So what is the real reason to inflict additional pain and aggravation on his own constituency?
harun
(11,348 posts)Stewland
(163 posts)Will these Republicans have the guts to bite the very hand that feeds them? Lets hear them boast that they too are followers of Christ. Ironically the very areas that vote solidly republican are the recipients of the results of climate change. It's only just begun.
dsharp88
(487 posts)calimary
(81,196 posts)Glad you're here. They won't. And unfortunately, voters in a state like Oklahoma cannot be counted on to stop drinking the Kool-aid long enough to see the REAL reality as opposed to the finely embroidered fictional one that their "favorite" party serves them, day in, day out, around-the-clock.
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)calimary
(81,196 posts)And WHY can't we be repeating this high and low?
bondwooley
(1,198 posts)indepat
(20,899 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Otherwise, he's only a showboating, soul-less mfer whose priorities are way out of whack. JMO.
love_katz
(2,578 posts)Rotten son of foul spew.
Come on, Oklahoma voters. Give this pile of excrement the boot.
Bucky
(53,986 posts)...thus making it perfectly reasonable for our Fiscal Heroes to ignore God's commandment to always balance the budget, now it's clear that there is no Divine Justification for further deficit spending for disaster relief. After all, isn't it clear that the tornado was God's Punishment on Oklahomans for electing a dumbass like Tom Coburn to the US Senate?
Hubert Flottz
(37,726 posts)that POS's refusal for the reason.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It's not up to him to "accept" aid for the state. He can vote against it, and I hope like hell he does--the stupid shitheel...the people of the state will remember him for it.
What a hubris-laden asshole--he has no role in the acceptance of state funds. He needs to sit his dumb ass down and shut the fuck up.
DFW
(54,335 posts)Even if Coburn would singlehandedly be responsible for Oklahoma getting not one cent of federal aid, and leave the injured, the homeless and the starving to fend for themselves, and tell the people of his state they must rebuild with their own bare hands.....
Even if he were to tell that to the people of Oklahoma in just those words, and laugh in their faces while saying it........
They would STILL re-elect him over any Democrat next time around. His margin might shrink by a point or two, but his Senate seat would be in no danger whatsoever. That is American political reality in 2013.
Cha
(297,123 posts)for life to knock him off his self anointed pedestal.
thanks EarlG for highlighting coburn's heinousness.
More..
Coburn: Medicare and Social Security are things we dont absolutely need
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/09/coburn-medicare-and-social-security-are-things-we-dont-absolutely-need/
He does have a big vacant head.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)I believe they should hear the words of their beloved representatives straight from the source.
The first thing built may be a gallows!
Western justice!
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)I mean - really, truly angry. This guy though... pisses me off more than I thought possible. Basically, this overpaid sack of shit makes a living by seeking out federal programs to destroy and refusing aid to disaster victims... even when the victims are from his own area....
This is so damn disgusting I can't imagine how this sorry stain of shit on the pimple of the ass of a syphilis infected warthog can remain in office. Basically, here's a guy who has plenty of money, some of the best health care in the world, who has the resources to survive in a luxury that most of us can only imagine... and he has the audacity, the nerve, the complete and utter fucking lack of compassion to deny help for people unless there are matching budget cuts?
I'll call it what it is - treason, greed, a selfish pursuit of more campaign money even if it means utterly rejecting and ignoring the needs of those he is supposed to represent. Though I do not believe in hell, I devoutly believe that we should create such a place for Tom Coburn and those of his ilk.
Skittles
(153,142 posts)great analysis, davidthegnome
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)Usually when I get angry I feel really guilty about it... this time, not so much. Glad I read this before, and not after my workout. I've noticed that on those rare occasions when I become angry, it gives me a nice little boost to my energy. Maybe I should read more about this Coburn... and throw some of that energy into helping the people of Oklahoma replace him.
Is this guy up for re-election soon?
Skittles
(153,142 posts)maybe they'll wake up, you now? Yakking about offsets while people were still being pulled from the rubble < ---- now that there is some sick sh**
Vietnameravet
(1,085 posts)Okay let the people of Oklahoma go without and maybe they will pull their collective heads out of their asses and get rid of these two!
MFM008
(19,804 posts)I remember the first time I heard of this guy , I think he was a congressmen and he was protesting to NBC as they prepared to show 'Schindlers List" commercial free for the first time on TV.
His complaint........it was to violent.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)Because that's where the one-peRcenteRs' money is...
randr
(12,409 posts)delegation will take pay cuts to offset the devastation.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)"ending dependency on government"?
DissidentVoice
(813 posts)sheshe2
(83,728 posts)EarlG for the link to my post!
A despicable cretin, that Tommy.
sheshe2
gtar100
(4,192 posts)It must take a great deal of fortitude to fuck everyone you claim to represent in order to stand up for baseless, unfounded tea party principles.
I sure hope the good people of Oklahoma can finally see him for the shit hole he is.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Really, who cares what Coburn thinks, the Governor of that state requests federal funds, and President Obama already has stated that federal funds will go to Oklahoma, so its just wind coming from Coburns ass.......
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)White people, Southern Baptists included, need help. No more hidden racism about the folks who need help. This time it's us, not them. This happened in the suburbs, don't forget that.
merrily
(45,251 posts)Yeah, yeah. I know. The Constitution says we can't do that. I can still dream, though.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)military contractors:
http://www.governmentcontractswon.com/department/defense/altech_services_inc_800191215.asp?yr=12
Altech Services received $120 million in the past 12 years. Statewide, Oklahoma received $12 billion in military contracts in the last 12 years.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I'm sure that they'll be understanding. We in NJ would be glad to take any additional funds that OK rejects. I'm sure NY would take the money too.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Actually, this is probably what all the denial is about, the oil men are preempting any responsibility.