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Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:02 AM

Pic Of The Moment: Obama Calls GOP Government Shutdown Plan What It Is: Extortion



Finally: Obama uses the E word.


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Reply Pic Of The Moment: Obama Calls GOP Government Shutdown Plan What It Is: Extortion (Original post)
EarlG Sep 2013 OP
Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2013 #1
dsteve01 Sep 2013 #4
durablend Sep 2013 #12
lark Sep 2013 #14
Sunlei Sep 2013 #17
Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2013 #18
HowHasItComeToThis Sep 2013 #28
Iliyah Sep 2013 #2
caseymoz Sep 2013 #3
awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #7
caseymoz Sep 2013 #9
lark Sep 2013 #16
Sunlei Sep 2013 #19
caseymoz Sep 2013 #32
Blue Silent Majority Sep 2013 #26
rtracey Sep 2013 #5
Cryptoad Sep 2013 #11
krispos42 Sep 2013 #6
Scurrilous Sep 2013 #8
Cryptoad Sep 2013 #10
stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #13
William769 Sep 2013 #15
gopiscrap Sep 2013 #20
MADem Sep 2013 #21
ancianita Sep 2013 #22
SunSeeker Sep 2013 #23
red dog 1 Sep 2013 #24
demwing Sep 2013 #25
grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #27
landolfi Sep 2013 #29
Cha Sep 2013 #30
polynomial Sep 2013 #31

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:10 AM

1. I wish he'd get around to the T-word

Treasonous

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Response to Hayduke Bomgarte (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:00 PM

4. Would be epic

but it's not his style.

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Response to Hayduke Bomgarte (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:12 PM

12. Let's cut to the chase what they REALLY are

DOMESTIC TERRORISTS

(and I'd like to see anyone TRY to convince me they're not)

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Response to Hayduke Bomgarte (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:25 PM

14. How about this related T word?

It's more personal, so I like it a bit better - TRAITORS!!!

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Response to Hayduke Bomgarte (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:35 PM

17. IMO, todays republicans are economic terrorists

I don't like America held hostage by them.

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Response to Sunlei (Reply #17)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:39 PM

18. They are that

As well as an ongoing criminal enterprise.

IMO

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Response to Hayduke Bomgarte (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:40 AM

28. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT OUR DEMOCRACY TO BE A SUCCESS

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:29 AM

2. "IF" that happens

and the congresscritters refuse to pay their bills and refuse to send out checks, i.e. SSI, SNAP, Medicare/Medicaid and other important issues, than yes, I would consider it as Treason. The house gopers and some senate ones will hold America "Hostage" because their corporate masters don't give a shit about the 99%ers, and are so upset they lost to ACA (Obamacare) that they will sink America because of their unholy pride.

ACA has nothing to do with healthcare but all to do with sore losers.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 11:59 AM

3. Good news and bad news:


The bad news is the GOP is going to ruin the economy and cause massive poverty and suffering.

The good news is, the GOP is going to commit political suicide. I can't see how they are going to survive politically if they do this. I just can't see US voters putting them into office again after this.

I consider the bad news outweighs the good news, but if it's inevitable that they're going to ruin us, we might as well celebrate the good news before we're starving.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:26 PM

7. They keep committing suicide...

 

yet they are still there. They are like roaches.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:55 PM

9. No, we just keep thinking . . .


. . . they can't possibly get any worse before they die. The GOP was already terminal. The demographics showed that. The only question was whether they'd be dead by 2016 or 2032, or somewhere in between. Right now, it looks like sooner rather than later and they'll continue to take the country down with them.

But really, if I live for ten more years after they're gone, I have a reason to die happy.

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:27 PM

16. Don't know if this is possible, but it certainly makes me smile!

Instead of not paying the military or social secuity recipients, how about the government won't pay congress? Can Obama do that? Wouldn't that be poetic justice?

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Response to lark (Reply #16)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:41 PM

19. good idea, congress should work pro bono..if they really love America :)

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Response to lark (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 06:13 PM

32. Unfortunately, Congress has "the power of the purse."


They set their own salary and fringe benefits. Does that sound like a good job, or what?

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Response to caseymoz (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 06:57 PM

26. Nothing To Lose

I think John Boehner wants the GOP (in it current form) to commit political suicide by letting Ted Cruz and the tea party crowd lead the GOP into a government shutdown.

On the surface a shutdown would appear to be suicide for Boehner and the GOP because it will probably lead to major voter backlash in the 2014 midterms giving the Democrats the majority in the House. But when you think about it, it makes sense. Establishment Republicans would love to kill off the wacky tea party movement prior to the 2016 presidential election and they need to get away from being opposed to Obamacare; they lost that fight and they need find a way to give it up. Discrediting the teabagers now might allow the Republican party to move a little bit to the center over the next two years. Why would John Boehner agree to do this you ask, because he has nothing to lose at this point. Boehner has completely lost control of his caucus so there is no way that he will remain on as speaker after 2014. If Boehner is voted out as speaker by his own party he is ruined; if he looses the gavel to Nancy Pelosi, then he saves face. John Boehner could come out of shutdown looking like a victim (within his own party) while Cruz would be the evil villain who precipitated the Democratic takeover of the House.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:13 PM

5. WHAT THE F.....

 

Just claim 14th ....The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void."

Mr Obama, walk into the House Chamber, call Boehner over in the corner and say, "I'm claiming 14th and stick the rest pal" and walk out. Quit this BS debt ceiling crap... It make ZERO sense to argue something that is perhaps not even legal...stupid.....

Attn ALL POLITICIANS: QUIT TRYING TO DESTROY THIS COUNTRY.....

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Response to rtracey (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:57 PM

11. + 1000 nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:14 PM

6. Treason doth never flourish: what is the reason?

If it doth flourish none dare call it treason.




k&r

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:37 PM

8. K & R

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 12:56 PM

10. Another Shake-Down by the GOP!

Geeez and there are people worried as whether the NSA has read their email all the while the GOP is dismantling this country!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:23 PM

13. K&R

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 01:26 PM

15. Kick & recommended.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:28 PM

20. He should have every repuke congress critter arested for extortion!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:51 PM

21. Way to go, EarlG!

Another great graphic!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 03:55 PM

22. This is the grifter class' shakedown politics and economics.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 04:00 PM

23. K & R

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 05:33 PM

24. The 14th Amendment may or may not give Obama authority to raise the Debt Ceiling.

"The debt-ceiling crisis in 2011 raises the question of what powers Section 4 of the 14th Amendment gives to the President, an issue that remains unsettled."
Liptak, Adam, July 24, 2011. "The 14th Amendment, the Debt Ceiling and a Way Out"
The New York Times, Retrieved July 30, 2011.
"In recent weeks, law professors have been trying to puzzle out the meaning and relevance of the provision. Some have joined Mr.Clinton in saying it allows Mr Obama to ignore the debt ceiling.
Others say it applies only to Congress and only to outright default on existing debts.
Still others say the President may do what he wants in an emergency, with or without the authority of the 14th Amendment."
New York Times article in Politics section by Adam Liptak, July 24, 2011

From the New York Times article cited above:
"Clinton ..pointed to an obscure provision in the 14th Amendment saying he would unilaterally invoke it "without hesitation" to raise the debt ceiling "and force the courts to stop me."
On Friday, Mr. Obama rejected the idea, though not in categorical terms.
"I have talked to my lawyers," Mr. Obama said, "They are not persuaded that this is a winning argument."
Adding another element of uncertainty, and possible court battles, to the debate do not seem to appeal to the White House. And it is, in any event, not clear that the nation's creditors would continue to lend money to the United States were the President to take unilateral action."

I was unable to fins a working link to the New York Times article:
"The 14th Amendment, the Debt Ceiling and a Way Out", by Adam Liptak

Easiest way to get to the article is to Google
Wikipedia's "Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution",
and scroll down to Footnote # 154 "Liptak, Adam "The 14th Amendment, the Debt Ceiling and a way out."

At Wikipedia's "Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution",
you can also scroll down to the paragraph titled "Validity of Public Debt", which is the second to last paragraph, right before the footnotes.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Sep 19, 2013, 05:56 PM

25. SEDITION!

 

that's a fact.

Conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of the state = sedition.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:02 AM

27. Since extortion is illegal, shouldn't someone be arrested?

 

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:00 AM

29. Let them shut it down! Who will notice?

Maybe we could hire some replacement representatives. And no way should Congress get paid. They all deserve to be fired for dereliction of duty.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:46 AM

30. This time President Obama will get to Veto their

bill to defund Obamacare with a Flourish and let America know how much he does care about the people having Affordable Health Care.





https://www.facebook.com/cha.evans.925#!/obamacarefact

Good move, teabagged republicons.

Mahalo EarlG!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Sep 20, 2013, 09:28 AM

31. Hurray he finally said it...

Analyzing the Republican approach using a complete no chance of agreement exposes a behavior ignored by modern mainstream media Journalist for years if not decades. Just now President Obama declaring the Republican Congress as extortionist in my opinion is mild conservative Democratic pleasant criticism. Considering this offence is repeated show the American citizen a total disrespect for the commitment to oath and affirmation, right in your face the simple good reason we all know they lie like hell.

The President knowing the basic in the elements of the Constitution could make the argument as many of us in this blog know a Congress that fails to support the constitution by oath is treason. Or at minimum ethics that sustains revolt. Finally the President is actually showing leadership in the basic argument.

The obsession is wasted time in Congressional hearings that do not go to convictions, grandstanding theatrics with mainstream media free speech money expanding every possible moment generating cable and satellite commercial time free speech as directed by the compliant Republican Supreme Court complicit in hate mongering through this coolest relation of circular trillion dollar secret derivative market, Cayman Island free speech money laundering the average American citizen will never see besides continuing to hatchet away with misinformation nonstop. Except by the vote.

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