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Pic Of The Moment: Shutdown Day 5: WTF? (Original Post) EarlG Oct 2013 OP
It's Boehner's Shutdown now. Current Cost of Boehner's Shutdown = $1.295 BILLION Coyotl Oct 2013 #1
12.5 million an hour abelenkpe Oct 2013 #4
To the Fox News viewers NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #2
Cruz really excels ... Martin Eden Oct 2013 #3
And as such, is a perfect GOP candidate for President. tofuandbeer Oct 2013 #17
#GOPshutdown ffr Oct 2013 #5
Cruz...THE stupidest of the current stupid fucks. SoapBox Oct 2013 #6
What The Furlough!!!! indeed Heather MC Oct 2013 #7
Baggers are not confined to the realm we all know as reality Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #8
No reporter should let them cry "principle" nuxvomica Oct 2013 #9
Yes, America does suffer from terrorism. dotymed Oct 2013 #10
Projection much? corkhead Oct 2013 #11
Lack of Leadership: Blame someone else. The two faces of Cruz: ask for a shut down, then blame it DhhD Oct 2013 #12
This man is as delusional as Michele Bachmann Hydepier Oct 2013 #13
Is this the face and voice heaven05 Oct 2013 #14
The Economics and Politics of Chaos - Krugman Bill USA Oct 2013 #15
excellent...thanks BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #19
+ 1000 red dog 1 Oct 2013 #22
2014 Burf-_- Oct 2013 #16
There are people who would agree with Mr. Cruz.They're called "Republicans." WinkyDink Oct 2013 #18
Am I allowed to say this?.. Cha Oct 2013 #20
At long last, sir....... DFW Oct 2013 #21
Thanks EarlG red dog 1 Oct 2013 #23
t-pubs ran on shutting down the gov in 2010. oldandhappy Oct 2013 #24
Just like claiming that if you hit the bully back, the fight was your fault. maddiemom Oct 2013 #25
Cruz did admit... Dan de Lyons Oct 2013 #26
That's rich. Shoot the hostage, then blame it on those who didn't bow to your demands. But... Beartracks Oct 2013 #27
CRUZ IS A LYING SACK OF SHIT drynberg Oct 2013 #28
It's so nice to see their "repeat it til it sticks" strategy failing MISERABLY Matariki Oct 2013 #29
Ted's Cruzin' for a bruisin'... Blue Owl Oct 2013 #30
K, R & T dmr Oct 2013 #31

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
2. To the Fox News viewers
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:04 AM
Oct 2013

and the dittoheads, Cruz's speech last week was a valiant attempt to keep the government running in the face of the Democrats' refusal to capitulate to his demands.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
8. Baggers are not confined to the realm we all know as reality
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:01 PM
Oct 2013

Somehow the media feels the need to entertain this nonsense, instead of calling it what it is ... insanity.

nuxvomica

(12,409 posts)
9. No reporter should let them cry "principle"
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:03 PM
Oct 2013

If they really want us to believe that this is a principled attack on the ACA then why not accept the responsibility for the shutdown? Seriously, if I were a genuine Tea Bagger, I'd be pissed that my reps weren't wholeheartedly embracing responsibility for it.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
10. Yes, America does suffer from terrorism.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:04 PM
Oct 2013

Mainly at the hands of corporate politicians. The only solution?
TAKE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
12. Lack of Leadership: Blame someone else. The two faces of Cruz: ask for a shut down, then blame it
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 12:20 PM
Oct 2013

on others. He must be laughing at all the low-information hanging fruit that voted for him. It is like he and his TEA Gorillas have ambushed their prey, Republicans like Boehner, Cornyn and others.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
14. Is this the face and voice
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 01:26 PM
Oct 2013

Last edited Sat Oct 5, 2013, 04:10 PM - Edit history (2)

of the 21st century beginnings of a new Jim Crow era because the whiney RW white males in the teahadist party and elsewhere and some females feel extremely threatened by the new demographics predicted for america's populace/society? Is this obstructionism and attempted destruction of a duly elected(twice) administration's legacy the virulent beginnings of a new quest for white male and female supremacy in amerikkka, even as a racial minority status looms for Caucasians? I think this is at the bottom of this whole tantrum. Virulent racism disguised as 'politics as usual'. Good luck,teddy, you're doing your namesake proud.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
15. The Economics and Politics of Chaos - Krugman
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 01:59 PM
Oct 2013
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/01/the-economics-and-politics-of-chaos/?_r=1

The best commentary I’ve seen on what just happened is visual, and can be seen here. Unfortunately, I don’t think I should put that image on a Times web site.

But how did we get here? Interestingly, Ezra Klein implicitly offers two quite different interpretations.

First, he describes very well what the policy issue, such as it is, amounts to:

This is all about stopping a law that increases taxes on rich people and reduces subsidies to private insurers in Medicare in order to help low-income Americans buy health insurance. That’s it. That’s why the Republican Party might shut down the government and default on the debt.



Indeed. There’s a definite class-war aspect to this fight, pitting the interests of the 0.1 percent against those of lower-income families. But at this point the 0.1 percent, by and large, are pleading with the GOP to knock it off. So while class war may have been where this started, the monster has long since escaped from its cage; even Karl Rove, more or less the designated defender of upper-class privileges, is whining that the party won’t listen to him.

In a different post, Klein alludes to this by quoting Mann and Ornstein:

The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics — it is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.


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BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. excellent...thanks
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 04:16 PM
Oct 2013

Especially because this level of pathological dishonesty is too much for me to bear. All I can do is sputter. And say that I hate these sewage slurping sociopaths.

Cha

(296,812 posts)
20. Am I allowed to say this?..
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 05:32 PM
Oct 2013
Fucking Lying Sociopathic Asshole!

Thank you so much for highlighting said asshole's LIES, EarlG.. and on a Saturday!

DFW

(54,277 posts)
21. At long last, sir.......
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 05:40 PM
Oct 2013

Have you no sense of coherency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of coherency?

(Of course not, he's a right-wing Republican, just like the one to whom this question was originally posed on June 9, 1954, using "decency" instead of "coherency." The unspoken answer in both cases was "NO !&quot

red dog 1

(27,767 posts)
23. Thanks EarlG
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 06:28 PM
Oct 2013

In a Washington Post article last Tuesday, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) said he sees the shutdown more as a "guerrilla tactic" than a conservative policy.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
24. t-pubs ran on shutting down the gov in 2010.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:22 PM
Oct 2013

We need to keep posting the facts which show the misstatements of these t-pub folk.

They are costing us a LOT of money.

Dan de Lyons

(52 posts)
26. Cruz did admit...
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:05 PM
Oct 2013

... that the shutdown is benefiting the Democrats politically. That's a start. If he could begin to measure that benefit, he might realize how he's been pwned.

Beartracks

(12,797 posts)
27. That's rich. Shoot the hostage, then blame it on those who didn't bow to your demands. But...
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:15 PM
Oct 2013

... only because the whole thing backfired in the court of public opinion.

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