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(15,262 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)from the party sooooo concerned with reducing the debt.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)and the dittoheads, Cruz's speech last week was a valiant attempt to keep the government running in the face of the Democrats' refusal to capitulate to his demands.
Martin Eden
(12,844 posts)... at taking LIES & HYPOCRISY to new heights (or new lows, take your pick).
tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)Any questions. Yes?
Sen. Ted Cruz & Rep. Mark Meadows. Any more? Didn't think so.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)...asshole.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)Somehow the media feels the need to entertain this nonsense, instead of calling it what it is ... insanity.
nuxvomica
(12,409 posts)If they really want us to believe that this is a principled attack on the ACA then why not accept the responsibility for the shutdown? Seriously, if I were a genuine Tea Bagger, I'd be pissed that my reps weren't wholeheartedly embracing responsibility for it.
dotymed
(5,610 posts)Mainly at the hands of corporate politicians. The only solution?
TAKE MONEY OUT OF POLITICS.
corkhead
(6,119 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)on others. He must be laughing at all the low-information hanging fruit that voted for him. It is like he and his TEA Gorillas have ambushed their prey, Republicans like Boehner, Cornyn and others.
Hydepier
(21 posts)Too bad he's a Senator.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 5, 2013, 04:10 PM - Edit history (2)
of the 21st century beginnings of a new Jim Crow era because the whiney RW white males in the teahadist party and elsewhere and some females feel extremely threatened by the new demographics predicted for america's populace/society? Is this obstructionism and attempted destruction of a duly elected(twice) administration's legacy the virulent beginnings of a new quest for white male and female supremacy in amerikkka, even as a racial minority status looms for Caucasians? I think this is at the bottom of this whole tantrum. Virulent racism disguised as 'politics as usual'. Good luck,teddy, you're doing your namesake proud.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)The best commentary Ive seen on what just happened is visual, and can be seen here. Unfortunately, I dont think I should put that image on a Times web site.
But how did we get here? Interestingly, Ezra Klein implicitly offers two quite different interpretations.
First, he describes very well what the policy issue, such as it is, amounts to:
This is all about stopping a law that increases taxes on rich people and reduces subsidies to private insurers in Medicare in order to help low-income Americans buy health insurance. Thats it. Thats why the Republican Party might shut down the government and default on the debt.
Indeed. Theres a definite class-war aspect to this fight, pitting the interests of the 0.1 percent against those of lower-income families. But at this point the 0.1 percent, by and large, are pleading with the GOP to knock it off. So while class war may have been where this started, the monster has long since escaped from its cage; even Karl Rove, more or less the designated defender of upper-class privileges, is whining that the party wont listen to him.
In a different post, Klein alludes to this by quoting Mann and Ornstein:
The GOP has become an insurgent outlier in American politics it is ideologically extreme; scornful of compromise; and dismissive of the legitimacy of its political opposition.
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BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Especially because this level of pathological dishonesty is too much for me to bear. All I can do is sputter. And say that I hate these sewage slurping sociopaths.
red dog 1
(27,767 posts)Thanks Bill USA for the link to Paul Krugman's excellent New York Times blog post
midterms have never looked worse for the GOP. I like that.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Cha
(296,812 posts)Thank you so much for highlighting said asshole's LIES, EarlG.. and on a Saturday!
DFW
(54,277 posts)Have you no sense of coherency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of coherency?
(Of course not, he's a right-wing Republican, just like the one to whom this question was originally posed on June 9, 1954, using "decency" instead of "coherency." The unspoken answer in both cases was "NO !"
red dog 1
(27,767 posts)In a Washington Post article last Tuesday, Rep. Peter King (R-NY) said he sees the shutdown more as a "guerrilla tactic" than a conservative policy.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)We need to keep posting the facts which show the misstatements of these t-pub folk.
They are costing us a LOT of money.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Dan de Lyons
(52 posts)... that the shutdown is benefiting the Democrats politically. That's a start. If he could begin to measure that benefit, he might realize how he's been pwned.
Beartracks
(12,797 posts)... only because the whole thing backfired in the court of public opinion.
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drynberg
(1,648 posts)Boner too!
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Blue Owl
(50,256 posts)n/t
(T for Tweeted)