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EarlG

(21,935 posts) Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:31 AM Oct 2013

Pic Of The Moment: Shutdown Day 9: But I Thought Ted Cruz Hated Government-Run Health Care?

Ted Cruz Skewered For Backing Government-Run Health Care For Veterans

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Pic Of The Moment: Shutdown Day 9: But I Thought Ted Cruz Hated Government-Run Health Care? (Original Post) EarlG Oct 2013 OP

Oh, sure... DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #1

I understand that he is on his wife's health care plan. efhmc Oct 2013 #2

That's what I got as well actually Xyzse Oct 2013 #11

Belly laughing funny. Excellent satire! ffr Oct 2013 #3

Cruz hates US soldiers so much he wants them to have FAH-REE medical care? valerief Oct 2013 #4

He was with it before he was agin' it...before he was with it again! MADem Oct 2013 #5

He really is an odd looking duck, isn't he? That smirk...ugh...n/t monmouth3 Oct 2013 #6

And what the heck is wrong with his voice? Iwillnevergiveup Oct 2013 #7

Very creepy, sort of high and condescending to the hilt...n/t monmouth3 Oct 2013 #8

Weasel thy name is terrorist cruz. Cha Oct 2013 #9

well you know florida08 Oct 2013 #10

In defense of Cruz (yuck), I don't think this is hypocrisy. Jim Lane Oct 2013 #12

DissidentVoice

(813 posts)

1. Oh, sure...

Reply to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:35 AM

Oct 2013

Don't ask him to give up his TAXPAYER-FUNDED, GOVERNMENT health care either.

efhmc

(14,723 posts)

2. I understand that he is on his wife's health care plan.

Reply to DissidentVoice (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:38 AM

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Xyzse

(8,217 posts)

11. That's what I got as well actually

Reply to efhmc (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:02 PM

Oct 2013

I guess it means, he gets a bigger take home pay.

ffr

(22,665 posts)

3. Belly laughing funny. Excellent satire!

Reply to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 11:49 AM

Oct 2013

valerief

(53,235 posts)

4. Cruz hates US soldiers so much he wants them to have FAH-REE medical care?

Reply to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:12 PM

Oct 2013

How socialist communist Nazi of him.

MADem

(135,425 posts)

5. He was with it before he was agin' it...before he was with it again!

Reply to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 12:14 PM

Oct 2013

If this keeps up he'll get dizzy, fall down, and maybe shut up!

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)

6. He really is an odd looking duck, isn't he? That smirk...ugh...n/t

Reply to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:07 PM

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Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)

7. And what the heck is wrong with his voice?

Reply to monmouth3 (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:34 PM

Oct 2013

Worse than Ryan.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)

8. Very creepy, sort of high and condescending to the hilt...n/t

Reply to Iwillnevergiveup (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 01:38 PM

Oct 2013

Cha

(296,885 posts)

9. Weasel thy name is terrorist cruz.

Reply to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 02:53 PM

Oct 2013

thanks EarlG!

florida08

(4,106 posts)

10. well you know

Reply to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 03:59 PM

Oct 2013

How much the GOP loves the soldiers..especially if it gets them votes

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)

12. In defense of Cruz (yuck), I don't think this is hypocrisy.

Reply to EarlG (Original post)

Wed Oct 9, 2013, 04:12 PM

Oct 2013

Vets' health care isn't socialism. It's deferred compensation for services rendered.

There's an employer that wants to induce people to take a job that may well leave them with long-term health problems. Accordingly, along with the pay and whatever other benefits are offered, the employer offers a plan for health care that continues past the end of the employment. This promise helps the employer compete with other prospective employers, many of whose jobs don't involve the same level of risk. This is just how the free market operates.

Yes, in this instance, the employer is the government. That doesn't make it socialism. Medicare, by contrast, is socialism. The ACA isn't full-out socialism but involves a redistribution of wealth, through the subsidies provided to low-income people.

Cruz is not being hypocritical in supporting veterans' benefits. He is, however, being hypocritical in not calling for the abolition of Medicare.

I will further defend Cruz to this extent: He really ought to be on the Republican ticket in 2016! Let them run Palin-Cruz or Cruz-West or some such and we'd be a lock to retake the House.

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