Pic Of The Moment: Hypocrisy Watch

[EarlG]

GOP senators on filibustering appointees...

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[brer cat]

1. Republican = Hypocricy

k and r

[PeaceNikki]

2. Kinda bummed that the PotM wasn't a Kennedy tribute.

This would have been a good one:

[broiles]

6. We are not lacking in Kennedy tributes.

I love this picture, but good grief let us move on.

[JDPriestly]

13. Impossible to move on from a crime of that magnitude.

The assassination of Kennedy shook the foundation of our nation -- trust.

If you didn't live at the time it happened, you just can't understand. But those of us who did live through that tragedy will never forget and never remember often enough.

[broiles]

16. I not only was alive then, I saw him speak the day before

in San Antonio. His death broke my heart. But the piling on of the incessant "tributes" is I think harmful to his memory. We become inured to all this bullshit that is often insincere and mawkish.

[JDPriestly]

21. I strongly disagree.

I repeat. We should not forget a wrong of this magnitude, and we should make sure that our children do not forget it either. It would be like forgetting the assassination of Lincoln. That should never be forgotten either.

Perhaps when the last document related to the incident has been released from the National Archives and those of us who remember Kennedy's assassination as our introduction to politics can finally make peace with our memories of all the hatred of Kennedy at the time, perhaps then we can cut back on the memorials.

But not until then.

[MADem]

17. We need to fight the battles of the day, and the pic of the moment is a call to arms.

There's plenty of conversation and reflection about JFK in GD. If you'd like to see iconic pictures, I'll bet if you posted a thread saying "Post your favorite pic of JFK--here's mine" you get a ton of takers.

[PeaceNikki]

18. uh... ok.

actually, I just wanted to log into DU and see a beautiful pic on the homepage honoring him. but, meh.

I was just expressing my feelings, not looking for advice on how to internet, but thanks?

[MADem]

19. Well, I would wager that a thread like that would end up on the greatest page, and

thus, the front page as well. I'm sure plenty of people would contribute images that mean something to them.

Didn't mean to step on your toes...it's just that we have different views of the purpose of the Pic of the Moment. I see it as a tool to rally the Democratic voting base, to get them riled and engaged, pissed off at GOP hypocrisy, angered by deliberate wingnut misrepresentation, and determined to push back at those jerkwads, and I kinda like that. We need more of that sort of thing, IMO...I see way too much not-so-subtle Obama and Dem-bashing here at DU, and Pic of the Moment is about the only non-group thread where I can be assured, before I even click on it, that the thread won't be a shit stirring, divisive screed, or some sub-trollish iteration of "Democrats suck because Waaah waah waaah..."

There's plenty of JFK homage going on, on the tee vee and the internet, and here at DU as well. But hell, the Republicans appropriate his corpse at every turn, Reagan, for example, invoked him to get elected (and, with less success, so did Dan Quayle). The guy belongs to the ages, and he's past politics. That said, we're not past politics--we're in the thick of a run up to a Congressional off-year fight; and once we get past that, it's on to another open Presidential contest.

[Cha]

3. That'd be cool if a Dem Senator could read that

hypocritical shite of theirs right on the Senate floor.. back in their whiny faces.

thanks EarlG.. excellent.

[Triana]

4. Pretentious hypocrisy is the Hallmark of Republicans. n/t

[louis-t]

5. So, the Senate, by reading this, must act in an

unconstitutional way no matter what? If they filibuster, it's unconstitutional. If they attempt to get rid of the filibuster, it's unconstitutional.

[Blus4u]

7. Settling the filibuster issue won't happen until.....

IMO....They have to stand on their own two feet and present argument as to their opposition to the issue.
And that doesn't mean reading "Green Eggs & Ham".

It is my understanding, the original filibuster rules were changed for the health and safety of the legislators.
It was an accommodation based on the rationality of those being accommodated.

Now filibustering is = "to we don't like it so you don't vote on it".

When a rule is changed and the resulting change becomes abused due to unforeseen irrationality, then it needs to revert to some semblance of it's original intent.

It wasn't meant to be easy.
This should apply to both the minority and majority powers.

One man's opinion.

Peace

[Bill USA]

8. recommended, bookmarked.

[QuestForSense]

9. Wish this would get more play.

I'd like to see some progressive Dem read it into the Congressional Record, using this as a visual aid. At least it might be seen on CSPAN.

[mostlyconfused]

10. It's both parties on this one

Bitch about the filibuster when they are in power and want to get rid of it in order to overrun their political opposition. Then when out of power bemoan the tyranny of party in power for trying to squash voices of dissent. And if the republicans get back into the majority and start overturning things this senate has passed (because they only need 51 votes), this message board will explode with opposition.

The fact that the party in power hates it, and the party out of power treasures it as a means to fight for their agenda/beliefs....could there be a better sign that is should have remained in place?

[Bradical79]

20. No.

[Ikonoklast]

23. Wrong, so wrong, not even close.

Look at the the record-breaking use of the filibuster, and just which party broke that record before spouting "they're all the same" bullshit.


The rules were changed as a last resort, Reid has been adamant against changing them right up to the point of gridlock.

[mostlyconfused]

26. What I mean is...

Like the image above, there are tons of quotes, video clips, etc out there of Obama, Reid, et al railing against the idea of the repubs doing exactly what was just done, what a perversion of our political system it would be.

[7962]

35. I remember the same thing. Which is why they wont bring this up. They'd look like fools.

And in todays media, there are plenty of clips just waiting to be aired.

[mostlyconfused]

27. what would Reid's point of view be if...

the repubs were in power in the senate right now, he and the other Democrats were using any tactic they could to stop destructive legislation or to block some fringe right wing judicial nominee....and then the repubs changed the filibuster rules because of all the gridlock.

Even if I agree with Reid on issues, I don't think this is a principled position that he would support regardless of which party is in power. This is about changing the game to weaken the voice of the political minority in this country. All well and good when you are in the majority...likely to come back and bite you in the ass if you are someday in the minority again.

[Ikonoklast]

28. History already tells us what a Democratic Senate minority would have done.

Look and see who Bush got through the Senate with few, if any problems.

[mostlyconfused]

33. History also tells how a Democratic Senate minority felt about what just happened

when the repubs were proposing to do the same. There reaction was very strong, as it should have been.

[Hippo_Tron]

42. I think the difference between now and 2005 is that there are no moderate Republicans to deal with

Democrats did indeed filibuster nominees that would've gotten 51 votes, albeit less than Republicans do now, but they still did it. Frist as majority leader was (reluctantly I admit) right to force the issue and bring the prospect of ending the filibuster to the table. It didn't come to that, as there were enough moderate Democrats who were willing to strike a deal to get the nominees confirmed.

It's different this time around. You'd think you could dig up 5 ostensibly moderate Republicans (or at least ones that represent blue states), like Ayotte, Toomey, Kirk, Portman, and Collins. But in this day and age, those people are far more worried about their right flank than winning a general election and so no gang of 14 solution was possible.

In principle I agree with you, Reid's doing precisely what he was outraged about Frist doing. But with the decline of bipartisanship, I think this was going to be inevitable sooner or later.

[Major Hogwash]

11. Hypocrisy is the pillar the Rethuglican party was built on.

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Harding: I have no personal connections to the Teapot Dome scandal, those men are just friends of mine.
Coolidge: Don't disturb me, I'm going fishing.
Hoover: Prosperity is just around the corner.
Eisenhower: We will resist "Red" aggression in the world, wherever we find it, because we are a peaceful nation.
Nixon: I welcome an investigation, the people should know if their President is a crook.
Reagan: I can't recall if I ordered North to destroy any papers.
Bush: I was out of the loop.
Dubya: The Constitution is just a piece of paper.

[Ccarmona]

38. Adding:

Darth Cheney: "Deficits don't matter"

[totodeinhere]

12. This fails to mention that at the time there were Democrats including Harry Reid and Barack Obama

who were defending the filibuster.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/11/21/nuclear_option_obama_was_for_filibusters_before_he_was_for_it.html?wpisrc=burger_bar

Of course at that time the Democrats did not abuse the filibuster rule to the extent that the Republicans have been doing lately.

[Martin Eden]

14. Filibustering Presidential Nominees should be the exception, not the rule.

Occasionally a nominee is odious enough to warrant obstruction through filibuster, and for that reason the filibuster has value.

But when the filibuster becomes the rule rather than the exception it is being severely abused, and our Republic is better off without it.

[blkmusclmachine]

15. Upper down vote. That's when THEY'RE trying to get THEIR guys through.

[William769]

22. Kick & recommended.

[oldandhappy]

24. Wish we could post these quotes in the night sky over the capitol in D.C.

Bush 2 was president in 2005 so I guess the Dems were tickling these guys a little. Nothing compared to the absolute destruction of modern day tactics.

[progressoid]

25. Hypocrisy? In the GOP?

No. Way.

[awoke_in_2003]

29. conversely...

during that same time dem senators were saying that the nuclear option was a bad thing that the majority could use to beat up the minority party. If they would have just changed the rules to make all filibusters talking ones a lot of this stuff wouldn't happen. When Cruz went on his tear even his own party thought he was cuckoo

[wordpix]

30. "hypocrisy is us"---GOP

[Coyotl]

31. Excellente!

[The Wizard]

32. The first move a Republican Majority leader

will be to abolish the filibuster altogether. Who'd pay ten bucks to see McConnell on the Senate floor wearing a Depend diaper and yammering incoherently for hours on end?

[7962]

36. I'm sure someone here can probably come up with that graphic!!!

Thanks for putting THAT picture in my mind........

[Beartracks]

34. Dems: Remember this kind of stuff during campaigns and talk shows.

Call Republicans on this stuff at all times. Force them into disingenuous explanations, or silence; either is fine.

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[obxhead]

37. We'll not see one single pundit on the teevee

approach any of these men with their own words either.

[Hissyspit]

39. Oh, I remember.

[Scurrilous]

40. K & R

[Initech]

41. These are the very hypocrites Jesus warned us about.