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Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:58 AM

Pic Of The Moment: Rep. Stutzman Neatly Sums Up The GOP's Obamacare Problem



Getting an earful on Obamacare


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Reply Pic Of The Moment: Rep. Stutzman Neatly Sums Up The GOP's Obamacare Problem (Original post)
EarlG Dec 2013 OP
tosh Dec 2013 #1
Delphinus Dec 2013 #2
SCVDem Dec 2013 #3
olegramps Dec 2013 #4
Berlum Dec 2013 #5
Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #10
Berlum Dec 2013 #11
Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #14
Courtesy Flush Dec 2013 #18
tblue37 Dec 2013 #24
tex-wyo-dem Dec 2013 #25
czarjak Dec 2013 #6
LittleGirl Dec 2013 #7
Myrina Dec 2013 #8
Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #9
Major Hogwash Dec 2013 #12
Voice for Peace Dec 2013 #13
niyad Dec 2013 #22
santamargarita Dec 2013 #15
INdemo Dec 2013 #16
Jack Rabbit Dec 2013 #17
valerief Dec 2013 #19
Jack Rabbit Dec 2013 #20
caledesi Dec 2013 #21
tblue37 Dec 2013 #23
HoosierCowboy Dec 2013 #26

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:00 PM

1. "No, probably not."

Beautiful!!!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:54 PM

2. Hehehehehe ...

Albright sounds like a pretty smart guy!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 12:58 PM

3. This should be placed

on every bus stop in the country!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:23 PM

4. The Republican Party is morally bankrupt.

I especially despise Boehner who I consider as being an evil rotten bastard without any redeeming qualities. He claims to be Christian and
as a Catholic. As a Catholic, I am especially resentful of his claiming to being a member of the Catholic Church. I resent his claim to share our beliefs that contradict the most basic of our church's teachings that it our duty to assist those in need. He has not only refused to assist even innocent children but has conspired to crush them under the heel of unrestrained capitalistic greed.

The duty to assist those in need is an absolute principle that has been the subject of numerous papal encyclicals. I would like to remind Boehner, the union hater, that the Catholic Church's was a forerunner in the supporting the working class and was a powerful supporter of unionism as early as the 1890's. Pope Leo III issued his encyclical "Rerum Novarum" in 1891 in which he exerted the right of workers to a living wage, to organized and refused to allow these rights to be subordinated to the what he called the necessities of capitalist economic laws and further more upheld the need for state intervention to safeguard the rights of the worker. Boehner has forfeited and right to claim to belong to my church let alone have any claim to be a follower of Jesus' teachings.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:29 PM

5. Massive savings for almost everyone at my work place, too

That reality spells DOOM for the Republicons and their onslaught of lies about the Affordable Health Care Act. It is saving megabucks for people -- and as they save the big thought they have is: The Republicons lied to me. As usual.

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Response to Berlum (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:51 PM

10. For some people the savings was like getting a payraise.

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #10)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 02:10 PM

11. That's what it felt like

Let the RepubliBaggers whine -- because their bleating is so stanking phony, it falls on deaf ears.

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Response to Berlum (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:34 PM

14. Keep repeating the whole idea behind "trickle down" was the employees were to get raises.

 

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Response to Berlum (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 07:14 PM

18. But it didn't have to be that way

All they needed was a little bi-partisanship, and they could be taking credit right now. They made it very clear that they not only wouldn't support it, but they'd do anything they can to take it away from us. They've made it impossible to come back and ride the ACA coattails.

They really dug a hole on this issue.

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Response to Courtesy Flush (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 20, 2013, 02:12 AM

24. AND they made sure that Obama's name was inextricably attached to the name of the

program in the minds of all voters. In fact, a lot of people who hear about ACA provisions say they really like that plan, and wish it could replace Obamacare! Funny and sad.

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Response to Courtesy Flush (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 20, 2013, 03:32 AM

25. Bipartisanship, phooey

Their marching orders are to take the ACA down at all costs...and the orders are coming straight from the healthcare insurance lobby. Problem is me thinks they overplayed their hand. Once the ACA really takes full effect, and people begin to realize what it means for them on a personal level, any effort to subjugate it are screwn, including the teabagger/GOP assholes.

The next logical step is single payer.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:38 PM

6. No, probably not?

Please proceed.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:46 PM

7. the GOP hasn't come up with something

else because the ACA is the GOP's plan! It's that simple and I don't know why the fuck the Democrats don't start making some noise about that. THE ACA is the republican plan and the Democrats were the ones to make it the law. The only reason the GOP didn't vote for it was to be obstructionists!
Edit: Forgot to add: The progressives wanted Single Payer.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:49 PM

8. "Which is why we're doing our damndest

... to make sure - by gerrymandering, machine fraud or scrubbing the rolls - that you people don't get to vote." - Stutzman's brain quivvered.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 01:50 PM

9. Some part of their "brain" seems to think it doesn't MATTER in their quest for political purity.

 

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:00 PM

12. It's beginning to sink in for some Republicans.

The others are still living in denial.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:27 PM

13. but according to somebody on Facebook:

 

"who cares about those 9 people? because 63% of Americans,
that's five million, FIVE MILLION, have lost their insurance
and they'll never vote Democratic again hahahahahahahah!!
take that leftwing suckers."


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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 11:32 PM

22. wow, somebody on facebook thinks the population of the US is less than 8 million people? (63%

being 5 million, according to what was posted) wow. . .just. . .wow. that kind of ignorance or stupidity would be laughable if it were not so dangerous.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 03:55 PM

15. I could come up with a mile long list of reasons NOT to vote for that scum

in addition to healthcare.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 05:54 PM

16. This guy replace Sauder ..remember the good two shoes

that committed adultery and got caught. This guy is strictly a Tea Bagger that won with the aid of the Koch Bros pack group...
He cant think for him self and reads the scripts from the Tea Party leaders. If Democrats get their act together in Indiana and recruit a real honest to goodness electable candidate this guy could easily be defeated....yes even in a strong red district,

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 06:43 PM

17. Why ideologues are not to be trusted

I presume that Mr. Stutzman opposes the ACA on the grounds that government programs that compete with private business, no matter how poorly private business has provided the public with a reliable, affordable product, are a violation of market fundamentalism.

Mr. Stutzman therefore views market fundamentalism as a higher good than public health. It's a little bit like the inevitable gun worshiper who tells grieving parents after a school yard massacre that his Second Amendment rights are more important than the life of their late child.

What makes either the Free Market™ or Second Amendment Rights™ so important that it is more important than anyone's life? Nothing that I can think of.

This raises not only the question of why should Mr. Albight's employees vote for Mr. Stutzman, but more to the point what is Mr. Stutzman doing in Congress in the first place.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 08:45 PM

19. Nah. Ideology is just a tool conservatives use to bullshit people out of

thinking rationally.

None of these elected conservatives believe their ideology. They just use it to hammer people into submission. And the nailheads let the elected conservatives hammer them.

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Response to valerief (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 09:19 PM

20. It's not confined to conservatives

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A couple of years ago, I argued with an orthodox Marxist here. I thought such things had vanished. He told me that the notion that collectivization of Soviet farms caused mass famine in Ukraine was false.

Now, that's an ideologue.

I also believe that many, if not most elected [strike]conservatives[/strike] right wing ideologues believe at least parts of their nonsense. For example, I think Senator Inhofe is just stupid enough to believe that climate change science is a hoax; however, I'm not so sure about corporate executives like the Koch brothers and I seriously doubt that every fossil fuel magnate doesn't know he's lying when he promotes the global-warming-is-a-hoax hoax. The only thing that makes me think the Koch brothers really believe that nonsense is that they were raised by a founding member of the John Birch Society, a major disseminator of truly ridiculous conspiracy theories such as the assertion that the fluoridation of drinking water is a Communist plot or the one about President Eisenhower being "conscious, dedicated agent of the Communist Conspiracy." If you believe either of those, you'll believe anything.

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Response to valerief (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 19, 2013, 10:19 PM

21. Very good! nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2013, 02:08 AM

23. They have always realized this problem--and that is why they were so desperate to kill ACA.

They know that it can hurt the Republican brand for a very long time, just as LBJ realized that passing the CIvil RIghts Act would lose Dems the South for at least a generation, and probably more.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2013, 09:54 AM

26. That's why Democrats get elected in the first place

...and the leadership ought to keep it in mind. The Democratic Party tries to do good things for the populace and in doing so creates a "client base" that will respond at the ballot box. The Republicans simply are pimped for the 1%.

Soon the GOP Noise machine will eventually divert to another red herring issue after people find out that ACA will make their lives better, hoping that the general population will forget the GOP was willing to throw them under the bus.

The GOP will be claiming credit for ACA because voters have the worst memories.


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