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The End of the Death Penalty? (Original Post) rdubwiley Jan 2014 OP
I'm skeptical Pretorius Jan 2014 #1
Nearly all people, unlike you, value freedom a great goddamn deal. 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2014 #2
It's not about Freedom...it's about Justice Pretorius Jan 2014 #6
What if there was TlcJobCoach Jan 2014 #3
He deserved it geoxyx Jan 2014 #4
Sounds like you believe in revenge for crimes, is this right? uppityperson Jan 2014 #5

Pretorius

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1. I'm skeptical
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 12:18 PM
Jan 2014

We can site other countries crime rates that have no death penalty and come to the conclusion that the death penalty is not an effective deterrent for violent crimes...but we would be wrong. I think it is false to compare a generally homogenous society like Holland or Sweden to the culturally and racially diverse society in the US. Combine our availability of guns, income inequality as a result of near total laissez-faire capitalism, an established culture of violence and finally just plane old fashioned redneck xenophobia and you reach a sad conclusion: We NEED the death penalty. Does anyone realistically believe that the "threat" of three hot meals, a bed, some TV time, and a chance to catch up on some reading for the rest of your life is enough of a deterrent to lower crime? Is the goal of abolishing the death penalty, in fact, to reduce crime? Or is it to adhere to some higher moral principle while the foundation of our society itself produces crime? I think changing our entire social contract to achieve social and economic justice first is necessary before eliminating the death penalty. Otherwise I see abolishing it putting the cart before the horse!

Pretorius

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6. It's not about Freedom...it's about Justice
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 09:30 PM
Jan 2014

This isn't a freedom issue. It's a justice one. Do you equate "freedom" with a murderers ability to evade justice? The way I see it, you forfeit your rights to "freedom" the moment you decide to rape, torture, murder and mutilate someone! If we don't chase out the killers among us, how can we achieve justice?

TlcJobCoach

(16 posts)
3. What if there was
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 01:19 AM
Jan 2014

one in a million chance that a person was innocent?

What if it was your relative?

What if it was you?

It is barbaric to kill people like dogs. Hell, we don't even kill dogs like that.

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