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Quixote1818

(28,926 posts)
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:24 AM May 2014

Cliven Bundy Now Encouraging Lunatic Followers to Trample Through Navajo Nation Sites

Last edited Sun May 11, 2014, 08:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Here is some background on this: http://www.forwardprogressives.com/cliven-bundy-now-encouraging-lunatic-followers-trample-through-navajo-nation-sites/

Here is commissioner Phil Lyman's facebook page. He is the one who organized this: https://www.facebook.com/Phil.Lyman.SanJuanCountyCommissioner

Update: The facebook page above has been closed down due to too many negative comments.

Tribal groups dismayed by Recapture ATV protest: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57919721-78/blm-canyon-recapture-ride.html.csp

Snip from ABC News: "A 14-mile section of trail in the canyon is closed to motorized vehicles, BLM officials said, but there are more than 2,800 miles of trails open to them on public lands around Blanding." WAAAAH! We can't go on 14 miles of road yet we could drive from Utah to Europe on the roads open to ATV's around Blanding. The stupidity here is stunning!



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Cliven Bundy Now Encouraging Lunatic Followers to Trample Through Navajo Nation Sites (Original Post) Quixote1818 May 2014 OP
I want them all arrested or please tell me why the laws apply to me and not them, i want a randys1 May 2014 #1
This makes my head & heart want to explode. Too much selfishness & hate for me to absorb. catbyte May 2014 #27
This man needs........well, never mind. PDJane May 2014 #2
........ trusty elf May 2014 #15
in his own turds ashling May 2014 #31
what a clown convoy C_U_L8R May 2014 #3
Some are riding with little kids on their laps with no helmets. See photo Quixote1818 May 2014 #5
Freedumb!!!! Mz Pip May 2014 #11
LMAO! Quixote1818 May 2014 #28
Odds are good JJMacNab May 2014 #44
Turns out that photo if of Ryan Bundy and his family. Quixote1818 May 2014 #50
What's that flag he's carrying? KansDem May 2014 #58
Ignorant,arrogant Spawn of the Medicare TP/AFP Scooter Brigade ("Govt Hands Off My Medicare!") stuffmatters May 2014 #49
like spoiled bratty kids. misterhighwasted May 2014 #4
Agreed Zipgun May 2014 #37
Blatantly breaking the law. gademocrat7 May 2014 #6
Ha...... Grassy Knoll May 2014 #7
Cite everyone of those brazen MF'ers. Hulk May 2014 #8
Fuck these assholes... dhill926 May 2014 #9
Time for some Homeland Security ... Mika May 2014 #10
that would be ideal !!!! unionthug777 May 2014 #26
Devastating to me-to destroy our archeological and historical treasures--those of Native peoples hlthe2b May 2014 #12
Is terrorism. "Be afraid of us" "We can destroy you at will" Nothin' but. jtuck004 May 2014 #22
I feel the same way. BlancheSplanchnik May 2014 #40
was that a cop on horseback....... chillfactor May 2014 #13
It might have been commissioner Phil Lyman who organized this Quixote1818 May 2014 #14
From the FB comments: mac56 May 2014 #18
Great comment! nt Quixote1818 May 2014 #20
"A few well placed arrows" reminds me of this pic... JohnnyRingo May 2014 #34
Love it!! arcane1 May 2014 #36
What the hell is the backstory on THAT porcupine? AtheistCrusader May 2014 #55
Don't these morans have JOBS??!? alittlelark May 2014 #16
Manifest Destiny. Baitball Blogger May 2014 #17
They are using children as human shields Iliyah May 2014 #19
And for no logical or practical reason whatsoever… Strictly to prove you have some kind of God given world wide wally May 2014 #21
How does one get to be commissioner? nt HelenWheels May 2014 #23
Those 4 wheelers (and 2 wheelers) do extensive, LONG lasting damage to OUR land... bvar22 May 2014 #24
You can today see tracks from covered wagons in those remote desert areas, the land is so fragile. Sunlei May 2014 #52
Cite them to hell sakabatou May 2014 #25
Arm the First Americans Omaha Steve May 2014 #29
Anything to bring the cameras back. JohnnyRingo May 2014 #30
The problem isn't the fees Bundy owes. JJMacNab May 2014 #43
If the wheels of justice turn as expected... JohnnyRingo May 2014 #54
Like petulant children. And cowards. arcane1 May 2014 #32
From Lyman's Facebook post, a quote: riqster May 2014 #33
These men and women are double standard motherfuckers. TRoN33 May 2014 #35
They won the battle of Bundy Ranch zeemike May 2014 #38
What a dickasaurus alfredo May 2014 #39
This is desecration as well as unlawful PumpkinAle May 2014 #41
Fuck all those guys. TeamPooka May 2014 #42
ahhhhh!!!! heaven05 May 2014 #45
A victory lap. JoeyT May 2014 #46
Can these idiots please drive their ATVs across an atomic bomb test site? Crowman1979 May 2014 #47
i'm going to assume that nobody was pepper sprayed, or tased.. frylock May 2014 #48
Everyone who championed inaction and pacification. Thanks. Your policies caused this. Taitertots May 2014 #51
Lame! Reminds me of Southpark's HD riders episode ffr May 2014 #53
You can't fool me! Those aren't Bundy militia members!!! KansDem May 2014 #56
This is just a friendly reminder..... AnneD May 2014 #57
Agree, and had it not been for disease killing off 90% of the natives Quixote1818 May 2014 #60
Thanks for the great article... AnneD May 2014 #61
Wonder if this are the same folks: El Shaman May 2014 #59
K&R Photographer Jan 2016 #62

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. I want them all arrested or please tell me why the laws apply to me and not them, i want a
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:27 AM
May 2014

god damn answer too.

Quixote1818

(28,926 posts)
28. LMAO!
Sun May 11, 2014, 01:11 PM
May 2014

Yep! How about the freedom to hike in peace without those fucking ATV's all over the place making noise and everyone looking riding on them looking like they are ready for the rapture at any minute.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
58. What's that flag he's carrying?
Mon May 12, 2014, 10:37 AM
May 2014

Oh, yeah...it's the flag representing the country he refuses to recognize.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
49. Ignorant,arrogant Spawn of the Medicare TP/AFP Scooter Brigade ("Govt Hands Off My Medicare!")
Sun May 11, 2014, 06:34 PM
May 2014

Same mentality but now they're younger, even more emboldened & armed.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
4. like spoiled bratty kids.
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:32 AM
May 2014

The more u ignore them the louder they get. Until their demand for attention injures someone or destroys something treasured.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
8. Cite everyone of those brazen MF'ers.
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:43 AM
May 2014

If they cooperate...cite them. If they don't, then act accordingly.

dhill926

(16,334 posts)
9. Fuck these assholes...
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:47 AM
May 2014

Would love to see a group from the Navaho Nation greet them the next time they try this shit...

hlthe2b

(102,196 posts)
12. Devastating to me-to destroy our archeological and historical treasures--those of Native peoples
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:52 AM
May 2014

This makes me so damned angry, I would back the Federal authorities in doing nearly anything necessary. I have unending contempt for these ugly selfish cretins.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
22. Is terrorism. "Be afraid of us" "We can destroy you at will" Nothin' but.
Sun May 11, 2014, 12:41 PM
May 2014

'Course, many in the government agree with them.

Quixote1818

(28,926 posts)
14. It might have been commissioner Phil Lyman who organized this
Sun May 11, 2014, 12:08 PM
May 2014

Here is his Facebook page. I encourage everyone to give an opinion on his post about this: https://www.facebook.com/Phil.Lyman.SanJuanCountyCommissioner

mac56

(17,566 posts)
18. From the FB comments:
Sun May 11, 2014, 12:30 PM
May 2014

"So the County Commissioner supports riding ATV's over Native American religious and ancestral areas because it's a good riding area? That's like the Native American people riding through our veterans' cemeteries."

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
21. And for no logical or practical reason whatsoever… Strictly to prove you have some kind of God given
Sun May 11, 2014, 12:39 PM
May 2014

right to be an asshole that outweighs anyone else's rights. Even the dead's right to rest in peace.
Such manly men!
Now go fuck yourselves.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
24. Those 4 wheelers (and 2 wheelers) do extensive, LONG lasting damage to OUR land...
Sun May 11, 2014, 12:43 PM
May 2014

.. in the dry climates of the South West.
The tracks can last for hundreds of years.

I am baffled that 4 wheelers believe they have the right to tear up any land they want to.
These people ARE breaking the law and causing lasting damage.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
52. You can today see tracks from covered wagons in those remote desert areas, the land is so fragile.
Sun May 11, 2014, 08:45 PM
May 2014

JohnnyRingo

(18,623 posts)
30. Anything to bring the cameras back.
Sun May 11, 2014, 01:18 PM
May 2014

When the media coverage evaporates, so does Bundy's leverage to stall paying his debt. Eventually, he'll be quietly assessed for the money, and he knows it.

Meanwhile, playing Redneck XGames keep the militias entertained and may draw the cameras back. I hope it doesn't.

JJMacNab

(25 posts)
43. The problem isn't the fees Bundy owes.
Sun May 11, 2014, 02:42 PM
May 2014

It's the presence of his herd on federal land. A few years after the BLM canceled Bundy's grazing permit for non-payment, Clark County purchased and retired those grazing rights to protect it for the endangered desert tortoise and Native American historical landmarks and plants.

JohnnyRingo

(18,623 posts)
54. If the wheels of justice turn as expected...
Sun May 11, 2014, 11:31 PM
May 2014

..they won't be his cattle for long.

I really doubt his loyal neighbors would stab him in the back to place a bid on them though. hahahaha

riqster

(13,986 posts)
33. From Lyman's Facebook post, a quote:
Sun May 11, 2014, 01:23 PM
May 2014
"To those who are reading or hearing fantastic stories about this on the news media, just know that this was a peaceful and productive protest that has helped to highlight a problem that exists both here in this canyon and in many other places through out the west.

Even to my detractors, I say thank you for your voice. If I delete your posts it is probably due to harsh rhetoric related to an issue about which you are uninformed or misinformed.
"


True patriots...

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
38. They won the battle of Bundy Ranch
Sun May 11, 2014, 01:42 PM
May 2014

And now the battle of Recapture Canyon...there will be more, until the federal government gives them what they want...the public land that we all own.
They see a weak government and will take advantage of it.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
41. This is desecration as well as unlawful
Sun May 11, 2014, 02:31 PM
May 2014

these cretins should be charged to the full extent of the law.

BTW this is a small area they want to destroy with their motorized vehciles - they can walk in there and enjoy the area. But no, they want to ride that area because hell the 2,800 miles of OHV trails in the same county are not enough.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
45. ahhhhh!!!!
Sun May 11, 2014, 03:03 PM
May 2014

americans keeping up the grand tradition of their forebearers, disrespecting and destroying Native American culture. Ahhh, ain't america great.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
46. A victory lap.
Sun May 11, 2014, 04:05 PM
May 2014

Because as far as they and everyone else is concerned, until the federal government bucks up and does something about them, they've won. Yeah, the FBI is investigating, we'll see if anything comes of it, or of this.

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
47. Can these idiots please drive their ATVs across an atomic bomb test site?
Sun May 11, 2014, 04:56 PM
May 2014

The whole excessive radiation at the site is just a gubment lie, right?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
48. i'm going to assume that nobody was pepper sprayed, or tased..
Sun May 11, 2014, 05:23 PM
May 2014

kicked to the ground, and beaten within an inch of their lives. these fuckheads will continue to become emboldened, and then the feds will have no choice but to come down, hard and swift.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
51. Everyone who championed inaction and pacification. Thanks. Your policies caused this.
Sun May 11, 2014, 08:40 PM
May 2014

This will never stop until it is stopped by the government.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
53. Lame! Reminds me of Southpark's HD riders episode
Sun May 11, 2014, 09:58 PM
May 2014


Call or write your elected officials and voice your protest to the destruction of American landmarks or Yellowstone and Yosemite get it next.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
56. You can't fool me! Those aren't Bundy militia members!!!
Mon May 12, 2014, 10:35 AM
May 2014

The video clearly shows the women riding behind the men!

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
57. This is just a friendly reminder.....
Mon May 12, 2014, 10:35 AM
May 2014

Mexico and the Spanish were unable to successfully colonize the Southwest and plains because of the Indian tribes. In fact, it took the US government 50 years to subdue the Indians. Going though these sacred area and tearing them up is going to land them in hot water with some of these tribes. In other words, translated so you can understand........



Get the hell off my lawn.

AnneD

(15,774 posts)
61. Thanks for the great article...
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:40 AM
May 2014

I will forward it to some of my friends. We often speculate about the way things could have easily turned out differently-and many time it was just some luck that prevented those early settlements from annihilation. My ancestors were Cherokee and their range was on the east cost from the now Carolinas to Florida and inland to Georgia, Tennessee, and Mississippi. Hell they even greeted De Soto on his way to the lost Fountain of Youth (even we had enough sense not to mess with the Seminoles-anyone living in a swamp has got to be crazy). By the time the pilgrims landed, it was all up and down the coast about the new comers. And now we reside in a tiny patch of Oklahoma.

Navajo were the first Indians to kick some Spanish ass. I would not go tear assing through their lands. They might hire themselves a good Cherokee lawyer. We have legal experience dealing with this government.

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