Wall Street And Neocons Embrace Possible Hillary Clinton Presidency

[matthewf]

[stevenleser]

1. Not this nonsense again.

I expect you will be posting an apology/retraction as soon as the Republican smear campaign against her, led by neocons and their wall street supporters starts?

[groundloop]

7. Yes, this nonsense again

[Phlem]

8. Really?

It's not because Republican's still want one of their own in seat but will still be happy with Hillary.

Of course they're going to smear her, what do you expect.

[stevenleser]

9. Do you even buy what you just said? They embrace her so much they will fight to the death to ensure

she doesn't win?

You cannot possibly believe that.

[Phlem]

10. It's Logic Chief.

Railing on her would ensure her nomination, supporting her would discourage that.

Jeebus

[stevenleser]

11. Yeah, it's logic alright, of the pretzel variety.

[Phlem]

12. OMG

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[Phlem]

13. Can't argue with this.

I guess you won the internets today.

[bahrbearian]

22. You could still go on Fox News and argue it.

[Enthusiast]

18. They fought Bill Clinton to the death

and he signed NAFTA, the Telecommunications Act and Gramm-Leach-Bliley.

That fight to the death"? We are watching it played out right now with President Obama. It's a smoke screen replay for anyone gullible enough to believe it.

We do not want another Third Way DLC president. Maybe you do.

[zeemike]

20. Wow, you sure don't understand triangulation.

It is known in the film flam world as a ringer...you got two to chose from...one is your guy and the other is your ringer...you win every time.

[stevenleser]

24. I understand triangulation just fine. This isn't it. The entire suggestion is ridiculous.

[Veilex]

27. Dismissing it doesn't make it less a reality.

Corporations and Neocons have had this in the play book from the word go. If you cant see the triangulation, then you're willfully ignoring the details.

[Phlem]

31. You apparently don't know what's going on so keep those shades on

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cause the future's so bright. Ostrich syndrome, you know. There is no possible way it could be reality, it's just plain ridiculous, never in a million years! Republicans would never stoop that low, we just need to reach across the isle right?

It's taken 8 years for Obama to learn you can't deal with Republicans. How long is it going to take you to understand the depravity they would reach to get what they want.

Your not dealing with people anymore, not politicians with empathy that are representative of the people, your dealing with something much larger that is devoid of empathy or reasoning. Power and greed is all it understand.

When was the last time a huge corporation did anything out of empathy. Have you not witnessed what Free Trade does to people?

Have you been asleep?

Willfull ignorance is what the GOP base practices, I thought Democrats were better than that. But if that's your bag, do yourself a favor and don't project it.

FFS

[stevenleser]

32. I know exactly what is going on. I actually interact with the people you guess about.

You are wrong.

[Phlem]

33. yup.

I was expecting that. I guess?? You wish.

Thanks for the completely intelligent diatribe. It was ridiculous.

[stevenleser]

34. Keep pretending that you have a clue about this. Its cute. nt

[Phlem]

35. So what your saying is you get paid huh.

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Fucking crickets.

[Phlem]

37. Oh, so now it's "Hillary Derangement Syndrome" on Making sense with Steven lesser!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025287189#post6


on Making sense with Steven lesser!

http://www.facebook.com/MakingSenseWithSteveLeser

shooting for a radio slot?

Gotta keep the bills paid no matter what. Glad you can make a living off other people's misery. It's cute.

[Dragonfli]

41. With the right promotion he will be making dollars instead of sense!

It's hard to blame a guy for trying to cash in on the neolib gravy train, a fella has to eat.

[Phlem]

43. !!!

He's a shill that gets paid to promote Hillary.

I'd rather get my political information from a million other resources than him.

Thank you for the morning giggles.

[cprise]

17. Ask the NYTimes / WSJ for retractions.

LOL

[Veilex]

25. You mean after Neocons and wall street have narrowed the offerings? Of course they will.

But they wont do it until they've successfully hedged their bet, and Hillary is the party Nominee. Then, they'll lambast her full well in the knowledge that the options will be a moderate republican and a psycho republican. Either way, the Neocons and wall street win.

[MannyGoldstein]

26. The NY Times says the Neocons are thinking she's one of them:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/opinion/sunday/are-neocons-getting-ready-to-ally-with-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0

WASHINGTON — AFTER nearly a decade in the political wilderness, the neoconservative movement is back, using the turmoil in Iraq and Ukraine to claim that it is President Obama, not the movement’s interventionist foreign policy that dominated early George W. Bush-era Washington, that bears responsibility for the current round of global crises.

Even as they castigate Mr. Obama, the neocons may be preparing a more brazen feat: aligning themselves with Hillary Rodham Clinton and her nascent presidential campaign, in a bid to return to the driver’s seat of American foreign policy.

I may be wrong here, but IIRC Hillary's foreign policy stances of note have been indistinguishable from the Neocon positions.

[Veilex]

28. Oh Manny...

Don't confuse the issue with the facts!
You might get someone to mistakenly accept reality!

[MannyGoldstein]

29. God forbid! nt

[L0oniX]

2. You get what you pay for ....sometimes.

[antigop]

3. Hillary's Candid Motto for Democratic Party: 'Represent Banks

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5245154

[antigop]

4. Lloyd Blankfein: "I held fundraisers for her."

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/wall-street-republicans-hillary-clinton-2016-106070.html?hp=t1

But the private consensus is similar to what Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein said to POLITICO late last year when he praised both Christie — before the bridge scandal — and Clinton. “I very much was supportive of Hillary Clinton the last go-round,” he said. “I held fundraisers for her.”

[cprise]

19. Hillary: "Bill never stopped reaching out to Repubs". MattF: "What did that get the American people?

No kidding.

[ballyhoo]

5. We are in so much trouble impossible

to express.

[Phlem]

6. Of course.

But we'll all still deny it and vote for her anyways.

[jonjensen]

14. remember 2000

In 2000 al gore wasn't good enough so we voted for nader and got bush. Mrs clinton will win in 2016 elizabeth warren maybe at best. Push for warren for vice president to keep hillary on the strait and narrow.

[Enthusiast]

15. Who is this "we" you speak of?

[Phlem]

16. Exactly.

nt

[Dragonfli]

39. The cutest little mouse you've ever seen of course

[Enthusiast]

40. Now that is a cute mouse.

[zeemike]

21. Awesome rant Mathew.

[JDPriestly]

23. K&R. That's the truth.

If we elect Hillary, she will make sure that we move even faster toward becoming a corporate-run nation. Check the record on Open Secrets. See who is behind Hillary for yourselves.

Then check Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and any other candidate you think would make a good president. Compare and decide.

I will not vote for Hillary. You can count on that. If Hillary cannot win California without my vote, she cannot win anywhere.

[Veilex]

30. Totally agree

And let us not forget the SCOTUS angle. Whomever is the next president will nominate the next set of justices. I'd personally rather not have more corporatists on the supreme court.

They've already given such lovely gifts such as Citizen's United and Hobby Lobby...

[blkmusclmachine]

36. 1%'ers UNITE!

[DeSwiss]

38. K&R

[NorthCarolina]

42. No doubt, she's their gal!

For the 2016 election, the 1% will no doubt be permitting us a 'choice' between HRC or Jeb Bush.