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Triana

(22,666 posts)
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 07:34 PM Jan 2015

Angry man blames two ex-wives for Robin Williams' death

This video starts out being quite informative about Robin Williams' childhood, upbringing and his parents and family life. I was wondering about Williams' childhood and parents and this is why I began watching. But I soon realized that this guy is just a know-it-all (who really doesn't know much at all) and who likes to hear himself talk and hear and see himself lecture others.

First of all, around 22:55 he reference AYN RAND. Strike #1 against this bozo.

His facebook page calls Al Sharpton a 'racist' (in true RWNJ fashion): https://www.facebook.com/stefan.molyneux - beware perusing that page. In one of his videos, he blames women (abusive mothers he says) for rape culture. And, he claims that the accusations against Bill Cosby are similar to the VA rape accusations (that Cosby's wife sees it that way) Of course. I haven't looked at any of his other "lectures" and don't intend to. He's a disturbing, narcissistic specimen that probably ought to be avoided - at least by me.

Around 32:56 he starts demonizing women and Williams' ex-wives, calling them 'parasites', 'predators', and 'prostitutes' and even in one comment insults his own mother. He totally blames Williams' ex-wives and their alimony payments almost exclusively for Williams' death/suicide. Now, we know that he had financial problems in part due to those alimony payments and that no doubt contributed to all his worries which included his health and his battles with addiction. But to blame women exclusively - ex-wives exclusively - for Williams' death is IMO a bridge too far. He also talks about Williams' mother in an earlier part of the video and accuses her of having raised two other older bully children who abused Robin - "this tells us something about the character of the mother that she raised two exploitative children" - this is around 9:00. These two older half-siblings were evidently from a previous marriage. And while he talks about how Robin's dad was an emotional cold fish and largely absent and unavailable to his children, nowhere does he apportion ANY blame or ANY responsibility to Robin's dad - OR the father of the two previous children - for any abuse or neglect Robin suffered as a child. It's always the mother's fault.

But here's the thing that I find REALLY disgusting and sad: This guy - this PARASITE - is using Robin Williams' tragic death to further his Ayn Rand-quoting, woman-hating, rape apologizing propaganda. Wow.







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randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Typical rightwing male...hates Women...really hates Women
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 07:46 PM
Jan 2015

It is my experience with almost all rightwing men that i know, they hate Women.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
2. Yes, it couldn't possibly be depression combined with horrific illness
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 07:53 PM
Jan 2015

Women are the root of all evil in the world according to these woman hating assholes.

I guess they either never got the memo that women don't owe them anything or they discarded it without reading it.

Feminism: the earthshattering proposition that women are human beings.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
4. That's why I did the review. So no one else has to watch it!
Fri Jan 2, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jan 2015

Seriously. In case anyone else happens upon this creep or his videos about Robin Williams or anything else, I posted this so they know from the outset to just avoid his BS.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
7. Thanks for the heads up.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 03:08 AM
Jan 2015

I sure don't wish to add hits to this guy's site. But then there's the video... maybe we don't need to advertise the video by posting it.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
8. I watched it
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 08:57 PM
Jan 2015

I know who Stefan Malyneux is and was curious. Wow, it was very intense and painful. I agree that he unloaded on women - the ones he thinks are gold diggers.

I would recommend anyone interested watch it. I don't agree with Stefan Molyneux on everything, as I don't agree with anyone on everything. Agreeing with someone should not be the criteria for hearing what they have to say, though. If you only listen to those you agree with then that's a closed feedback loop and you never learn anything and humans never develop the listening and communication skills to solve problems.

I thought he was way off base on some of the things he said and right on others (with respect to men and women). It kind of looks like the video was made right after Williams' death and there may have been an outpouring of anger toward those whom Molyneux felt drove Williams to suicide, especially since Williams had recently talked about being a cash cow for the ex wives and the impact it was having on him.

The whole issue of the types of relationships that men and women agree to enter into is sure a subject for (endless) conversation. Many of those relationships ARE like prostitution where both parties reduce themselves in the "transaction". However, when a woman stays home and raises the kids, it's right that she get a financial divorce settlement, beyond child support, for what she contributed. Alimony and support for life is another matter, and not right, imo. The stuff about a man "firing" his wife or her "quitting" was also something I would take issue with. What he said about Dave Foley was pretty awful, though I've never read about it and don't know how accurate it is.

What I found important about the video was the discussion of addiction and "me+". I know that Molyneux believes childhood trauma and lack of love is at the root of nearly all of our problems, as do I. Just that part, alone, is worth listening to.

Nowhere in there was he an apologist for rape, OP! Don't know why you said that. That's as exaggerated and over the top as some of what Molyneux said.

I was thinking how Molyneux failed to hold Williams accountable for his own choices (as when Molyneux said something about being "seduced" by the nanny). That's just bullshit. It takes two to tango, as they say. He could have kept his dick in his pants. That said, maybe they actually liked each other or fell in love. No way to know. That they stayed married for so many years doesn't mean much as so many people who aren't happy together have long marriages and children. Where Williams DID take responsibility was financially. He supported his children AND their mothers - the mothers to an extreme that was not right and pretty much made Williams pay FOREVER until he died. Seems it was that, and the loveless parenting that Williams endured, along with bullying, that Molyneux was ranting about. Oh, and, he did not just blame Williams' mother. He talked about the father being emotionally absent while Robin had to entertain the mother just to get her attention.

One thing I read about Robin after he died was that it was an assistant who found him and not his wife. They had separate bedrooms. I found that so incredibly sad. Third wife, not married all that long, and not even sharing a bedroom.

Anyway, good video and I'm glad you posted it, OP. Thought provoking and that's always good.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
9. His rape apologist attitudes are visible on his facebook page. . .
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 09:36 PM
Jan 2015

It's not in the video I posted - it's on his facebook page. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

He also cites Ayn Rand both on his FB page and in this video. And just IMO anyone who considers Ayn Rand a credible source on anything has some intellectual maturing to do.

I did find his details about Williams' childhood trauma and lack of love and the "me+" stuff of value. That's what got me interested, along with the details of his parents and childhood.

He did talk about Williams' father being emotionally and physically absent - but when he began talking about the half-siblings of Williams' - he exclusively blamed her for their bullying ways and any mention of the father's responsibility was long gone by that time. His comment was something the likes of: "you can tell a lot about the character of the MOTHER when she raised such abusive kids". He never mentioned the character of the father(s) at that point or the father's responsibility (either of them) in regards to the older half-siblings' abusiveness. He went on and on about women as parasites and prostitutes. Maybe he *meant* just those types of women - but he didn't make that very clear. I do think the divorce settlements were ridiculously excessive - but that doesn't make all women prostitutes or parasites or as he called them "employees". His comments about that were extremely offensive.

And it's true he didn't hold Williams responsible either. I mean, he did make his own choices in regards to relationships, however affected by his apparently deep need for acceptance and his alcoholism.

I read somewhere that Williams had started talking in his sleep a lot at some point and that it was disturbing his wife - and since his son was gone, Robin began sleeping in the son's room so as not to disturb his wife. It almost sounded as if that was something that had happened fairly recently but I couldn't be sure.

I have a brother who is similar in personality - a real goofball - and an alcoholic. May be one reason this all fascinates me. My brother doesn't talk much about his hurts or feelings or depression - and we know he has them - along with an ex-wife that is...well, I won't get started on her - but suffice to say she was very abusive. Like Williams, my brother buries it all in goofy silliness and alcohol (though he himself was in rehab recently - same place in Napa as Williams). He suffers silently but visibly. It's not good - and I worry that one day we're going to get a call too.

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
11. If he made anything even approaching
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:03 AM
Jan 2015

an apology for rape, it goes without saying that's terrible.

I'm sorry about your brother and his addiction. I've known (and know) and been close to a few addicts in my life and it's rough to watch someone you love in that condition. All addicts are in pain and they cause others to also be in pain! I hope something happens to turn your brother's life around. All I know is intensive outpatient therapy, followed with 12 step programs. There are no shortcuts and it's not easy.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
10. I won't bother watching it if it is that bad
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:08 PM
Jan 2015

As much as I loved Robin Williams (I always will), anyone (male or female) that gets married that many times is asking for some complications. His illness had to have been a huge stress. The cancellation of his show (which disappointed me because I thought it was cute) was not a good sign either.

I agree though, anyone who starts quoting Ayn Rand I'd turn off in an instant. What a fucking wackjob.

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