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Thu Feb 5, 2015, 02:10 AM

Do Cell Phones Cause Brain Tumors?

You have to watch to the end. Very good science in this:

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Reply Do Cell Phones Cause Brain Tumors? (Original post)
Quixote1818 Feb 2015 OP
TheNutcracker Feb 2015 #1
Chakab Feb 2015 #2
AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #6
freshwest Feb 2015 #12
mucifer Feb 2015 #13
freshwest Feb 2015 #14
jeff47 Feb 2015 #16
DeSwiss Feb 2015 #3
Quixote1818 Feb 2015 #4
AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #5
jeff47 Feb 2015 #15
jeff47 Feb 2015 #17
Sunlei Feb 2015 #7
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2015 #8
Journeyman Feb 2015 #9
adieu Feb 2015 #10
Skittles Feb 2015 #11
panfluteman Feb 2015 #18
Thor_MN Feb 2015 #19

Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 02:15 AM

1. The manuals say to hold the phone 5/8 in away from your ear/head. Do you?

 

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 02:24 AM

2. I'm more interested in research into whether or not bluetooth earpieces and headsets cause

 

cancer.

I hardly ever hold my phone to my head, but I've been in constant use of wireless earpieces and headphones for years.

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Response to Chakab (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:39 AM

6. BT radios are a tiny fraction of the power levels involved in a cell phone.

Fully negligible.

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Response to Chakab (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 05:54 AM

12. Self delete, not worth it.

Last edited Thu Feb 5, 2015, 06:35 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to freshwest (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 06:09 AM

13. Babies and small children can get brain tumors.

They don't use cell phones.

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Response to Chakab (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:51 AM

16. To cause cancer from RF, you have to break a chemical bond.

For electromagnetic radiation to cause cancer, it needs to have enough energy to break chemical bonds. That's the only way it can alter the makeup of your cells in order to make your cells cancerous.

The radio waves from your cell phone do not have enough energy to break chemical bonds. Whether they are bluetooth or the signal between your phone and the tower.

So no, your bluetooth headset won't cause cancer. Neither will your cell phone. Neither will your microwave. Neither will the TV transmitter near your house that is pumping out 20,000W of RF (Your phone puts out about 1-2W at maximum power, and it's only at maximum power when there is 1 "bar" on the signal strength.)

Also, the energy in a photon goes up as the frequency of the photon goes up. The 40W light bulbs in your house are putting out 40W of radiation that is much higher in power (IR and light) than the 1W put out by your phone. They won't cause cancer either.

You need to get up to ultraviolet radiation before you get enough energy in a photon to break a chemical bond. Which is why UV causes skin cancer. X-Rays have even more energy, which is why the tech usually leaves the room when you get an X-Ray.

The only way RF can kill you is by heating. You'd have a pretty good idea that it's coming - you'll feel hot.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 02:24 AM

3. Yes they do.

 

But that won't stop people from using them, though. It's like with the food, the BPA, the plastics, the phthalates. No one gives a shit until they get sick (I speak from experience). Hell a little fluoride, a little mercury and a little lead ain't gonna hurt cha!

- It's like everything else, the sheeple buy what they're programmed to buy and that's it. It's how this thing works.....

K&R



We are living in a poisoned world........

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:02 AM

4. No they dont. Did you even watch the video? He shreads the idea that they do


and yet you recommended it with the belief that they do cause tumors?

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:35 AM

5. Nobody reads past the headline.

Even the zero-effort required to absorb a video is too much.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:38 AM

15. In the future, you may want to post a summary or

a transcription of a key part of the video. Lots of people will not watch videos for lots of reasons.

My particular case:
1) I'm at work.
2) It takes a video 15 minutes to say something I can read in 2 minutes.
3) Videos are designed to engage the watcher and drag them along to the conclusion the person making the video wants. That's much harder to do in print, resulting less skepticism when watching a video.
4) Videos can't provide links as easily to back up their claims, and it's easier to search from text when they do not back up their claims.

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 11:59 AM

17. Tip: If your argument relies on "sheeple", your argument is wrong.

Cell phones do not cause cancer. The photons they emit do not have enough power to damage chemical bonds, so they can not alter your cells in order to cause cancer.

Cell phones put out about 1-2W of RF when they are turned up to maximum power (when you have 1 "bar" on your signal strength). TV and Radio stations put out 10,000W to 50,000W of RF, and have been for decades. No cancer clusters.

The energy in a photon goes up as the frequency of the photon goes up. The 40W light bulbs in your house are putting out 40W of much stronger photons than your cell phone. (They don't cause cancer either, btw)

To get enough energy to cause cancer, you need to get up to UV and higher. Lower energy photons can only hurt you by heating. As in cooking you. You'll feel warm long before there is significant damage.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:45 AM

7. no, all cell phones do is tell you about tumors, autism & Alzheimer's rates as you drink & eat &

breath our contaminated world.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 04:21 AM

8. Is there an ap to find out?

 

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 04:30 AM

9. They make a lot of the people I know who use them seemingly brain dead & socially inept . . .

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 04:45 AM

10. I would never get brain cancer if cell phones were to cause brain cancer

 

First, I rarely use my iPhone for phone calls. Second, I almost always use my ear buds because it offers better sound and I don't have to bring my arm to my head. So, at worst, I might get hip cancer.

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 05:38 AM

11. I know they make people act very stupid

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Response to Quixote1818 (Original post)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 12:57 PM

18. I Had a Friend Who Was Absolutely Glued to His Cell Phone

and he developed and died from a brain tumor that was on the exact same side of his head as he always used his cell phone on. Before he died, he said, "If only I had switched sides, I might not have gotten this brain tumor." A statistical coincidence or anecdotal account? Perhaps. But it makes me wary of cell phones. I have one, but I use headphones on it - and I'm not on it all the time like my dead friend.

I don't use microwave ovens to cook or heat my food, either. They derange the molecular structure of the nutrients in your food, and make them a lot harder to properly assimilate and metabolize. And by the way - it was a technology that was developed by the Nazis. When they invaded the USSR, the Nazis left some of their microwave ovens, which they used to cook for their troops, behind. Soviet scientists did some testing on microwave ovens, and based on their results, they absolutely prohibited the sale of microwave ovens in the USSR.

You can do a simple experiment: Try to germinate and sprout two seeds, one using regular tap water, and the other using high quality purified water that has been microwaved. The seed watered with microwaved water will not sprout and grow, whereas the other seed will. And if microwave ovens are doing that to water, which is the simplest molecule in your food, what are they doing to nutrients with much more complex molecular structures?

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Response to panfluteman (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 5, 2015, 06:39 PM

19. What a pantload of crap...

 

Welcome to DU... but Nazi microwave ovens?

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