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Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:05 AM

"SHUT UP!" Bill O'Reilly's Heated Feud with Al Franken featuring Molly Ivins -2003

Like Colbert at the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, this public humiliation of Bill "Loofah" O'Reilly by Al Franken in 2003 never gets old. It's so satisfying to see how both of their careers are going today.



Molly Ivins speaking is a bonus.

Some Background:

Fox News Network, LLC, v. Penguin Group (USA), Inc., and Alan S. Franken was a civil lawsuit filed in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on August 7, 2003. Fox News Channel, the plaintiff, sought to enjoin Al Franken from using Fox's trademark phrase "fair & balanced" in the title of his then-forthcoming book, Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right. Judge Denny Chin denied Fox's motion for injunction on August 22, and the network dropped the suit three days later.

On August 7, 2003, Fox News filed for relief in New York State court. On August 14, Franken's publisher removed the action to the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on federal question grounds. In what author and editor Richard Blow described as "an eight-inch thick legal filing," the network contended that it had been irreparably harmed by the publicity surrounding Franken's use of the phrase "fair and balanced" on the preliminary cover of Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, which Fox claimed it had first become aware of following the BookExpo panel discussion in May. The filing stated that Franken had "been described as a 'C-level political commentator' who is 'increasingly unfunny'", and claimed that the comedian was "shrill and unstable" and had "appeared either intoxicated or deranged" at a press correspondents' dinner in April 2003. The filing cited only two sources for those quotes, one of which was a website to which Bill O'Reilly was a contributor, and the other was a website where anyone could contribute. Fox also requested a temporary restraining order (denied August 20, 2003) to restrain the distribution of the book until their request for a preliminary injunction was heard by the court.

In response, Franken joked that he had trademarked the word "funny", and that Fox had infringed his intellectual property rights by characterizing him as "unfunny." Franken's then-unreleased book subsequently rose to the #1 sales position on Amazon.com's best-seller list from number 489 (his second #1 bestseller after Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot and Other Observations, which attained the top of the New York Times' list in 1996).

On August 22, U.S. District Court judge Denny Chin heard arguments from attorneys representing the plaintiff and the defendant regarding Fox News's request for an injunction to prevent Franken from releasing the book with its current title. In a hearing punctuated at times by laughter from the assembled spectators, Chin questioned Fox News attorney Dori Ann Hanswirth harshly about her contention that the phrase "fair and balanced" on the cover of Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them was likely to confuse consumers into believing that the book was produced or endorsed by Fox News Channel. At one point he asked Hanswirth, "Do you think that the reasonable consumer would believe, seeing the word lie above Mr. O'Reilly's face, that Mr. O'Reilly or Fox were endorsing this book?" Chin denied the injunction and said that the case was "wholly without merit, both factually and legally". He went on to suggest that Fox News' trademark on the phrase "fair and balanced" could be invalid. Three days later, Fox News Channel filed to drop the lawsuit.

Though O'Reilly denies it, Franken believes that the commentator goaded Fox News into suing him. In the paperback edition of his book, Franken recalls an incident at the BookExpo where, as O'Reilly and Fox News colleague Shepard Smith were waiting for a hotel shuttle, O'Reilly said, "I'm gonna sue him! I'm gonna sue him!" A week later, Franken's publisher received a letter from Fox saying they were planning to sue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_v._Franken

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Reply "SHUT UP!" Bill O'Reilly's Heated Feud with Al Franken featuring Molly Ivins -2003 (Original post)
greyl Mar 2015 OP
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Panich52 Mar 2015 #4
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greyl Mar 2015 #6
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glowing Mar 2015 #10
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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:28 AM

1. I was lucky enough in small crowd around that time to hear Franken, he signed my book :)

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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:30 AM

2. Cool! That must have been fun. nt

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:41 AM

3. Superb

I saw it when it aired.

I miss Molly Ivins.

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:57 AM

4. Really miss Molly

Franken's book Lying liars... was funny. And distressing all at same time

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:06 AM

5. btw- I think Bernie Sanders is in the audience 54:19 :)

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Response to whereisjustice (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:11 AM

6. Holy crap, you're right!

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:35 AM

7. I saw Al Franken on the Tonight Show right around the time of the book tour.

At a shared event, Franken, Molly Ivins and Bill-O The Clown were each given the same amount of time to speak. Apparently, Al ran a little long, but not by much, to hear him tell it, and Bill-O was yelling at him to be quiet, because he was over his allotted time by many minutes.

Franken's comment - hilarious, in my opinion - "Even when he was telling me to shut up, he couldn't stop lying."

He then looked right into the camera and challenged O'Reilly to find "one thing in my book that isn't true. One thing, Bill."

I never heard of O'Reilly taking him up on the challenge.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:58 AM

9. I kept track of the time years ago

over a decade ago so my memory isn't 100% but all I remember is the time O'Reilly was accusing Al Franken of wasn't even close to the reality (his accusation of how long also increased during the event -- after Franken spoke).

I don't think O'Reilly was yelling at him to "to shut up", considering he said it after he spoke & this was the discussion portion -- which was dominated heavily by O'Reilly & Molly Ivins(Al Franken made a joke of this by grabbing his mike and wandering over the O'Reilly & Ivins side of the table), had to do with time Franken spoke but by the uncomfortable truth he was speaking.

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 03:50 AM

8. This is a classic

Believe it or not -- I watched this live.

I watched a lot of C-Span back then because I didn't trust the cable news back then, it was very bad. Phil Donahue was let go because he was an anti-war voice.

Re-watching, I didn't truly appreciate Molly Ivins back then as I do know. She is the star of the whole thing, though the O'Reilly-Franken fued is very entertaining.

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:37 AM

10. Omg, never realized how much Bill O'Reilly looks like Sen Cruz.. this younger years panel with dyed

 

hair and a t-shirt/ blazer get up is really like looking at a double take..

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:49 AM

11. Loved listening to Franken skewer Bill on his Air America show

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:50 AM

12. This is an absolute gem...

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 05:02 AM

13. Thank you for posting that

I just finished watching it. I wasn't involved in politics at that time and was unaware of all of these things. I have read Al's book that was featured and it was eye opening for me when I read it a few years ago. (I've always been a late bloomer in life). Bill O'really showed his bully behavior in easy and clear ways and I was sad to see Al get so emotional about it. But and with that but, I have to say, I really really can't stand Bill O'really. Al is a super intelligent guy and if I could vote for him, I would. I'm so glad he is a senator now and I will continue to admire him and Molly as well. RIP Molly. I know she's gone but that was my first exposure of her. What a gal. The moderator was pathetic.

Thanks again for posting. What an eye opening segment if you have the time to watch.

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 05:02 AM

14. AT THE END...

Bill O'Reilly couldn't get off the stage fast enough!

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 07:45 AM

15. Bookmarked to see later today. But first minutes

so enjoyable. Great to see Molly
again, Bernie in the audience, Pat doing the introductory and Tucker Carlson (bow tie boy and object of The Daily Show's/Stewart's utter contempt) as a no-show.
Btw isn't it interesting that just when O'Reilly lie-lly could be publicly chortling the end one of the longest-running satires in history, The Colbert Repor, and the imminent end of the Stewart-era of The Daily Show, Bill is now faced with....da da da...The Truth.

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 08:40 AM

16. Boondocks did a great comic strip on this event (don't know how to post images) n/t

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 09:40 AM

17. That video is a gem. Franken and Ivans crushed it.

Notice how O'Reilly starts off the panel disrespectfully by not addressing the host as *Congresswoman* Schroeder? He calls her "Miss Schroeder". No class.

LOVED future Senator Franken taking O'Reilly to the woodshed to his face.



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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 12:58 PM

18. O'reilly was wrong about _everything. He's going down; Franken is a successful Senator now

 

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Response to greyl (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 01:05 PM

19. farce and bullshit is thy name

 

Notice how Billo takes off at the end, without waiting to sign autographs and greet his audience, guess he didn't want to meet the public without his Fox handlers around.

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