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Idiot Ted Cruz Shut Down by NASA Director on Climate Change Research (Original Post) Quixote1818 Mar 2015 OP
That was beautiful onecaliberal Mar 2015 #1
A gotcha chart that backfired. Madmiddle Mar 2015 #2
Looks good underpants Mar 2015 #3
Hey, can you try to post the video here? underpants Mar 2015 #4
I love the expression "there's a lot of chartsmanship", and then him saying... George II Mar 2015 #5
I froze the video to check out the chart underpants Mar 2015 #19
Not only that, but percentages in that case are ludicrous..... George II Mar 2015 #20
Fortunately for me, Thespian2 Mar 2015 #6
Facts will trump bullshit every time... world wide wally Mar 2015 #7
I wish you were right about facts over bullshit. erronis Mar 2015 #12
chartsmanship... cab67 Mar 2015 #8
What a douche. progressoid Mar 2015 #9
The hands clasped at the beginning screamed DOUCHE! underpants Mar 2015 #17
Unfortunately, we here on DU already know that Cruz is an idiot and doesn't care for facts. Stonepounder Mar 2015 #10
I Expected a Big Showdown, a Big Confrontation Here panfluteman Mar 2015 #11
And he has an additional look on his face; he may be facing charges after signing a letter to Iran. DhhD Mar 2015 #16
Cruz completely missed the main point BlueMTexpat Mar 2015 #13
Chartsmanship Jack Rabbit Mar 2015 #14
NIMBY father founding Mar 2015 #15
Very astute cut-to-the-point post underpants Mar 2015 #18
I wanna get me some chartmanship! mackerel Mar 2015 #21
Inciting Tea-Billies is one thing, Senator Cruz is finding NASA's waters run deeper. denbot Mar 2015 #22
NASA'S First Priority..... cynzke Mar 2015 #23
Scientists need to band together to Demand this religious freak is Removed from the Science Committe zebonaut Mar 2015 #24
I swear, I feel like just listening to Ted Cruz makes me dumber Downtown Hound Mar 2015 #25
Those that believe him don't have to worry about getting dumber. BillZBubb Mar 2015 #27
His voice makes me want to swing with my fist at the computer monitor NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #26
Cruz and His Cronies Media Overload RJMacReady Mar 2015 #28
 

Madmiddle

(459 posts)
2. A gotcha chart that backfired.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:46 AM
Mar 2015

An asshole deals with a scientist and finds out his little chartsmanship is cute, but severely lacking in basic knowledge of NASA.

underpants

(182,603 posts)
4. Hey, can you try to post the video here?
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 10:58 AM
Mar 2015
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/ted-cruz-meets-the-sound-silence

I am going to post the article in GD. My phone is giving me fits this morning so posting the video will be a real pain.

George II

(67,782 posts)
5. I love the expression "there's a lot of chartsmanship", and then him saying...
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:00 AM
Mar 2015

...."I'll go back and look at your chartsmanship"! I thought the Director's whole demeanor and his presentation was pretty down to earth and cool, and basically said to Cruz "you don't know what you're talking about."

Did you see how annoyed Cruz seemed at the end when he went to Senator Nelson?

And why do these clowns get people to "testify" and then go off and testify themselves? It's all a big show.

underpants

(182,603 posts)
19. I froze the video to check out the chart
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:15 PM
Mar 2015

It only goes to 50% so the 41% increase in Earth Science dominates the visual. The 7+% decrease in exploration should be 1/6th of the Earth Science bar but it isn't - probably because the 41% is meant to be the focal point taking up all the space.

The chart was totally unnecessary. It was a small meeting where you would expect a dry fact based discussion on funding. Cruz is clearly full of himself. His hand clasping at the beginning screamed I am full of my douchey self.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. Not only that, but percentages in that case are ludicrous.....
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:50 PM
Mar 2015

....as the Director pointed out, the decrease in one category was the result of cost reductions, NOT a reduction of appropriations or allocations.

Also, for the category that had the 41% increase (which Cruz was saying was excessive), what was the baseline on which it was calculated? If there was a billion dollar budget and that item was only $100,000, a 41% increase would have been an increase of only $41,000, a TINY increase overall.

Cruz is not a scientist, or a mathematician. Quite honestly, he's simply a moron.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
6. Fortunately for me,
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:18 AM
Mar 2015

I almost never see or hear a misinformed congress-person blather ignorance for all to see and hear. An excellent leader of NASA causes Cruz to show that he is using a bogus chart in an attempt to show that the space agency is misdirected. I so love it when a Cruz proves his unabashed hate for America and the President.

world wide wally

(21,738 posts)
7. Facts will trump bullshit every time...
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:22 AM
Mar 2015

And then you have these cursed tea clowns thinking everything is just a matter of opinion.
If we are going to allow any voter suppression at all, let's start with those idiots.
(sometimes I get so pissed off, I scare myself)

erronis

(15,181 posts)
12. I wish you were right about facts over bullshit.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:31 PM
Mar 2015

The "cursed tea clowns" (love it) don't give a shit about facts, just grandstanding.

Cruz looks so much like HUAC McCarthy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Joseph_McCarthy.jpg) that he might be Joe's reincarnation - in many facets.

underpants

(182,603 posts)
17. The hands clasped at the beginning screamed DOUCHE!
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 09:02 PM
Mar 2015

And in the rest of it the impression never changed

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
10. Unfortunately, we here on DU already know that Cruz is an idiot and doesn't care for facts.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:14 PM
Mar 2015

However, when this is reported on Faux News, it will be that "Cruz grilled NASA Director mercilessly on his comments about Climate Change." and then segue into how "Many scentists agree that either there is no Climate Change, or that gradual warming is a normal change not caused by humans."

panfluteman

(2,062 posts)
11. I Expected a Big Showdown, a Big Confrontation Here
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:14 PM
Mar 2015

but never got one. The exchange was on a more subtle, indirect level. My kudos to the NASA director, for handling this with expert dignity and aplomb. He mentioned the famous Kennedy Space center, and then added that if it is underwater (obviously because of sea level rise due to global warming) we won't have a launching pad from which to begin our space explorations. Its like, however much you may travel the world, you need to have a home base to start from, and to return to.

I know that Senator Cruz is a known Kochsucker, and I wonder if his billionaire backers are pushing him to get more space exploration out of NASA - so they can get the heck off of this planet after they've wrecked it, and take off in their private spaceships to start their bubble colonies on Mars. That would be consistent with their callous, cavalier attitude towards this great country that is their home, which they are wantonly trashing.

Regarding Ted Cruz: I think that, more than any other Republican scumbag in congress these days, he irks me to no end. The very smirking, condescending expression on his face in photos of him makes me want to puke. Anybody here feel the same way?

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
16. And he has an additional look on his face; he may be facing charges after signing a letter to Iran.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 07:53 PM
Mar 2015

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
13. Cruz completely missed the main point
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 12:39 PM
Mar 2015

of "Green Eggs and Ham" so it is hardly surprising that he is also an idiot about something much more complex.

Despite what the facts show, in his own mind he's a genius. That is what is most frightening because his blind followers also believe that.

denbot

(9,898 posts)
22. Inciting Tea-Billies is one thing, Senator Cruz is finding NASA's waters run deeper.
Fri Mar 13, 2015, 11:07 PM
Mar 2015

He relinquished the floor without his sound bite, score one for the NASA Director.

 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
24. Scientists need to band together to Demand this religious freak is Removed from the Science Committe
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:44 AM
Mar 2015

committee

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
25. I swear, I feel like just listening to Ted Cruz makes me dumber
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 06:05 PM
Mar 2015

I can only imagine what he must do to those that actually believe his bullshit.

RJMacReady

(14 posts)
28. Cruz and His Cronies Media Overload
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:10 PM
Mar 2015

Hey, Many thanks to Quixote1818 for posting the vid. You have to dig through metric tons of steaming, right wing bullshit to get to nuggets of truth like this. The dominance of Fox News, and their meaner, more spiteful and exponentially worse in every way offspring, the "OneAmerica" channel, is making it even harder for the truth to come out. When NOJusticeNoPeace said they wanted to bust up their monitor, I got the very same feeling when I ran across that swill bucket "OneAmerica" channel, new to the Philadelphia, PA Verizon's FiOS channel line up. When I heard the "anchor" say something to the effect of "Bar the doors so the PC police can't get in...", I knew I was going to need a punching bag after I subjected myself to it. I lasted 10 minutes, the "news" portion, ( Obama exceeding his Constitutional powers to negotiate w/Iran ), Hillary's "exploding" email scandal, new "facts" debunking man made climate change( I am assuming using the same faulty logic applied to the data as uncovered by the last edition of "VICE", because although the total area of sea ice has expanded, it has enormously thinned out, causing a huge net loss), etc...
I knew then what they were all about. The progressive message in going to be unseen/unheard by the masses if this keeps up. I can't stand more than 2 minutes of M. Kelly's Fox program, but she was snarkily touting their #1 viewer ratings, and demeaning MSNBC as "150 little, angry hate filled liberals and Joe Scarborough.&quot not verbatim) The upshot of this verbal vomitus was liberals are vengeful, mean spirited, losers who don't have the facts on their side.However, as with almost everything else @ Fox/OneAmerica, the total opposite is the truth. Fox/OneAmerica learned their lessons well from Goebbels: The bigger the lie, told long enough, will become perceived as truth. We are losing the media war folks. Aside from using punching bags and wrecking monitors, what can we do to push against this tsunami of hate and lies? I see dark days ahead, FDR where are you when we really need you? How about an FDR/Liz Warren ticket? The stuff dreams are made of... MacReady

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