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Here's What Happened When 7 States Spent $1 Million Drug Testing Welfare Recipients (Original Post) circlethesquare Mar 2015 OP
Reason # 3,987 to ... ProudProg2u Mar 2015 #1
Wisconsin Gop jumped on this bandwagon too. I believe to facilitate the cultural message that midnight Mar 2015 #2
What is more important is that the test is imperfect. longship Mar 2015 #3
Not trying to be Doc Holliday Mar 2015 #5
Sorry, I stand corrected. longship Mar 2015 #6
I know a RW idiot who calls homeless people "heroin addicts".... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #4
KnR nt chknltl Mar 2015 #7
we must help the poor The Jungle 1 Mar 2015 #8
If they tested positive for drugs Quantess Mar 2015 #9

midnight

(26,624 posts)
2. Wisconsin Gop jumped on this bandwagon too. I believe to facilitate the cultural message that
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:45 PM
Mar 2015

those not working are lazy drug addicts. However there was an equal push back on this M.O. and that was to drug test other's receiving any benefits too. I.E. govt. contracts, govt. salaries… etc… I want to hear that this drug testing of those is being rolled out…

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. What is more important is that the test is imperfect.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:53 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:29 PM - Edit history (1)

And that of those 48 who tested positive in Missouri, it is likely that a large chunk of them are false positives. That just falls out of the statistics and will be always true when screening a population with any such imperfect test. When you are screening a population for a relatively rare trait (e.g., drug use) with an imperfect test, the false positives must overwhelm the positive results. It's just math.

That is not an argument you hear very often, probably because we have a math illiterate populace.

R&

Doc Holliday

(719 posts)
5. Not trying to be
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:22 PM
Mar 2015

a smart-ass here, but "populous" is an adjective... "populace" is the noun. (I'm sure that there is an actual word out there that means what you apparently meant by "math illiterate", but I don't know what it is.)

Carry on.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Sorry, I stand corrected.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:28 PM
Mar 2015

I am not offended by pedantry. I embrace it myself on occasion. So, carry on.


My best regards.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
4. I know a RW idiot who calls homeless people "heroin addicts"....
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:21 PM
Mar 2015

Because God is punishing them for their sins.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
8. we must help the poor
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:14 PM
Mar 2015

Christ did not ask us to help the poor.
He demanded we help the poor.
He said nothing about judging the poor first.
He made it real clear who would do the judging.
It ain't us.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
9. If they tested positive for drugs
Fri Mar 20, 2015, 05:16 PM
Mar 2015

and the state denies them their welfare check, that still leaves the person broke. A broke drug addict is likely to go steal stuff or do illegal activities to get money. So it doesn't solve anything.

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