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jakeXT

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Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:39 AM Mar 2015

Mearsheimer, Cohen, Vanden Heuvel speak in a Round Table discussion on 'Defining a New Security Arch

John Mearsheimer, Stephen Cohen, Katrina Vanden Heuvel speak in a Round Table discussion on 'Defining a New Security Architecture for Europe that Brings Russia in from the Cold.' Gilbert Doctorow, Moderator. Brussels, 2 March 2015


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Mearsheimer, Cohen, Vanden Heuvel speak in a Round Table discussion on 'Defining a New Security Arch (Original Post) jakeXT Mar 2015 OP
The academics swilton Mar 2015 #1
At the risk of being called a "Putin apologist," I strongly agree with the general views put forth KJG52 Mar 2015 #2
 

swilton

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1. The academics
Sat Mar 21, 2015, 02:01 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Sat Mar 21, 2015, 07:05 PM - Edit history (1)

(Mearsheimer and Cohen) are well respected and worth listening to. I have no doubt that they will be ignored. US State Department blundered when they created this fiasco. Ukraine was not in great shape prior to February 2014 but it is much worse now. Unlike the rest of us who are held accountable for the jobs that we do, the State Department clowns will continue with business as usual creating one crisis after another. The record speaks for itself.

The question and answer segments illustrate that there is more than one voice coming from European political circles.

Very excellent resource - thank you for posting this!

KJG52

(70 posts)
2. At the risk of being called a "Putin apologist," I strongly agree with the general views put forth
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 03:53 AM
Mar 2015

here. The blanket cry that "Ukraine is a great democratic experiment being assaulted by the new 'red hordes'," is at best hysterical reaction and at worst the most blatant anti-Russian propaganda since the Cold War Era. I have been saying this from the beginning of the post Cold War realignment, that "American" or "Western," triumphalism will eventually sour in our mouths as the bitter taste of excess overwhelms our senses. Fukuyama, Friedman, Brooks and their ilk have been proven wrong repeatedly, the "opinion makers," in Washington and New York, haven't gotten one right in twenty years, why is anyone listening to them? The MIC/Security/State foreign policy apparatus is a shambles, with no coherent policy direction and with any idiot apparently able to move it in their preferred direction. Senators, second level State Department bureaucrats, generals assigned to NATO duty, have by turns directed incidents that should not be tolerated; however, not only are they apparently tolerated by the POTUS and SOS, they are assented to... The situation in the Ukraine is very dangerous and the US is treating it in a reactive and foolish manner, this will lead, at best, to continued war and hardship for the Ukrainian people, at worst, who knows...

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