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EarlG

(21,945 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 11:54 AM Apr 2015

Pic Of The Moment: GOP Congressmen Want Employers To Be Able To Fire Women For Using Birth Control



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Pic Of The Moment: GOP Congressmen Want Employers To Be Able To Fire Women For Using Birth Control (Original Post) EarlG Apr 2015 OP
Makes me want to Mnemosyne Apr 2015 #1
Where's the power of Facebook and Twitter, tweet and retweet again until everyone has his name! AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #2
Okay but... yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #3
What if hubby wants you home with the kids?... Helen Borg Apr 2015 #16
well for one I am not married..nor do I really want to be... yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #17
... SoapBox Apr 2015 #19
Righto. But I did not use "you" to mean "you" specifically... Helen Borg Apr 2015 #25
ah... yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #65
"ye" as opposed to "thou", to be specific. Helen Borg Apr 2015 #78
wow you are talking old days... yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #88
Yup :) Helen Borg Apr 2015 #89
Lol I noticed that too... yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #90
if you have employer based insurance Johonny Apr 2015 #24
Doesn't HIPPA protect from that kind of snooping? CrispyQ Apr 2015 #39
Yes, it is supposed to protect us... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #52
Yeah, what's a little sharing of secret info between corporations, huh? CrispyQ Apr 2015 #54
And getting worse... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #57
Chrishria law! Plucketeer Apr 2015 #33
talibornagain. sharist? pansypoo53219 Apr 2015 #41
FUCK the PUKES. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #4
DITTO!!!!!! Hepburn Apr 2015 #22
and BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #34
I like your style, Blanche. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #83
likewise!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #84
"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's" means PAY YOUR TAXES! DetlefK Apr 2015 #5
Yeah he completely missed the point of that verse underpants Apr 2015 #21
Exactly! Stevepol Apr 2015 #31
That's my congressgoon! corkhead Apr 2015 #6
Does this also apply to men justhanginon Apr 2015 #7
whoa, whoa, whoa....let's not get crazy here!!! Moostache Apr 2015 #80
Bravo! marym625 Apr 2015 #8
As a Michigander, I can only say that Walberg is an embarrassment to my state. Faygo Kid Apr 2015 #9
This Michigander would insert "this shitstain" between "that" and "Walberg" nt Snotcicles Apr 2015 #11
Caesar wasn't even brought into the world in a Baitball Blogger Apr 2015 #10
Did the guy use a scripture about paying TAXES as a reason to fire women for using birth control LynneSin Apr 2015 #12
We'd all have been better off if Mary had been on The Pill herself. NBachers Apr 2015 #13
What an idiot...! MADem Apr 2015 #14
Incredible response! RoBear Apr 2015 #23
Hell, go for it, I swiped it myself...! nt MADem Apr 2015 #26
Kick & recommended. William769 Apr 2015 #15
Radical Religious Terrorists SoapBox Apr 2015 #18
What a moron. Likewise for anyone stupid enough to vote for him. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #20
complete idiot & wtf does the quote have to do w/birth control? wordpix Apr 2015 #27
America 21st Century Politicalboi Apr 2015 #28
Why is a representative of the people in Michigan Half-Century Man Apr 2015 #29
It's a good thing that the GOP isn't engaging in a war against women. Kalidurga Apr 2015 #30
This is 2015, folks. Novara Apr 2015 #32
Didn't you know the role of women is to be a vessel for spirits from God? Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #35
But what about all the sperm that falls to the ground AngryDem001 Apr 2015 #37
Spilled seed soaks into the earth and become demons. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #45
That's what cleaning wipes are for d_legendary1 Apr 2015 #47
Becuz - you know - Every sperm is sacred vlyons Apr 2015 #36
Jesus was talking about taxes Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #38
wonder why they IGNORE the taxes part. pansypoo53219 Apr 2015 #40
repugs have no bottom to their idiocy samsingh Apr 2015 #42
Hey folks this gop turd is an ordained minister. tartan2 Apr 2015 #43
Yeah libodem Apr 2015 #73
These people are insane. Certifiably. Initech Apr 2015 #44
It's a definite'' WTH? '' Lifelong Protester Apr 2015 #46
Pic Of The Moment: GOP Congressmen Want Employers To Be Able To Fire Women For Using Birth Control The CCC Apr 2015 #48
Gee...this is a real trip down Memory Lane on the Wayback Machine classof56 Apr 2015 #49
God Wants This Guy To Mind His Own Business ProfessorGAC Apr 2015 #50
Whenever you hear "Jesus THE Christ"... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #51
I hate to nit-pick, but... Orrex Apr 2015 #68
Ok... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #69
When these Fascist Theocratic Talibangelicals start spewing this shit MynameisBlarney Apr 2015 #53
And god what's god's AlbertCat Apr 2015 #55
I think he might be saying that gov't shouldn't make law about why employers can fire people. Shrike47 Apr 2015 #56
I can't even comprehend a mindset this . . . unhinged. CrispyQ Apr 2015 #58
Here, numb nuts. world wide wally Apr 2015 #59
And if you are pregnant or have kids, Curmudgeoness Apr 2015 #60
So where are the MALE employees being fired for buying condoms, HockeyMom Apr 2015 #61
One thing I've noticed about some people who go to Washington Turbineguy Apr 2015 #62
and the r's whine and complain about government interferance in our lives ???!!!!???! allan01 Apr 2015 #63
WTF... deathrind Apr 2015 #64
Why it's Jesus the Christ himself. Where's the wine let's party. mackerel Apr 2015 #66
Lunatics ... TBF Apr 2015 #67
wouldn't most employers prefer that their employees used contraception? Iris Apr 2015 #70
Relgion. Making people stupid for 2,000 years. Arugula Latte Apr 2015 #71
and right now Jesus is confused PatrynXX Apr 2015 #72
Booking libodem Apr 2015 #74
It's time to outlaw Christianity. cui bono Apr 2015 #75
https://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/dominionism21.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #76
More and more the inmates are running the asylum. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2015 #77
no worries father founding Apr 2015 #79
This is the very reason for the decline of the Christian Church,,, Cryptoad Apr 2015 #81
K&R n/t lupinella Apr 2015 #82
I agree. W... T... F...! TRoN33 Apr 2015 #85
That Bible quote doesn't mean what he thinks it means oberliner Apr 2015 #86
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, tclambert Apr 2015 #87

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
3. Okay but...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:00 PM
Apr 2015

How is my employer going to KNOW if I am using birth control, I am certainly not going to tell them and If they ask, its non of their damn business!. Why the f@*^$ would they even ask me? I am so glad I live in San Francisco!

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
17. well for one I am not married..nor do I really want to be...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:55 PM
Apr 2015

secondly there won't be any kids, as I don't want any.. third.. if there ever is a hubby, she will probably not want kids either

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
88. wow you are talking old days...
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 02:15 PM
Apr 2015

Like Shakespeare old days... Romeo and Juliet!



But, soft! what light through yonder window breaks?
It is the east, and Juliet is the sun.
Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon,
Who is already sick and pale with grief,
That thou her maid art far more fair than she:
Be not her maid, since she is envious;
Her vestal livery is but sick and green
And none but fools do wear it; cast it off.
It is my lady, O, it is my love!
O, that she knew she were!

Johonny

(20,834 posts)
24. if you have employer based insurance
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:23 PM
Apr 2015

they might track what you use it on... Most companies wouldn't want to know. Companies run by sick brain damaged GOPers already want to kick birth control off your insurance. I have no doubt they'll force insurance companies to flag birth control users for them if allowed to.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
39. Doesn't HIPPA protect from that kind of snooping?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 02:42 PM
Apr 2015

I know they can probably get around it, but if you found out they were actually doing this, isn't there a law against it? Your employer snooping your med files?

I feel like I've fallen down a rabbit hole.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
52. Yes, it is supposed to protect us...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:25 PM
Apr 2015

but as we drifter further and further into Corporatism... Hell, call it what is really is- Fascism.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
54. Yeah, what's a little sharing of secret info between corporations, huh?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:50 PM
Apr 2015

Wink, wink.

What a disgusting mess.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
57. And getting worse...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 05:00 PM
Apr 2015

my grandchildren will have to fight the same fight my grandparent's generation did.

underpants

(182,773 posts)
21. Yeah he completely missed the point of that verse
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:09 PM
Apr 2015

It is basically the basis of the separation of church and state.

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
31. Exactly!
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:48 PM
Apr 2015

Why didn't someone ask him to explain what he meant.

The question might go something like this: "If I might ask the congressman to explain what he means by the analogy. My memory of that scripture is that the Pharisees were tempting Jesus to make sure he was paying his taxes and thought they would trip him up. So they asked if his disciples paid their taxes. He said, 'Show me a coin.' And they showed him one. 'Who's image and superscription is on this coin?' he asked. 'Caesar's,' they said. 'Render, therefore,' he is reputed to have said, 'unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and render unto God that which is God's.' The people during that time, who evidently were more conversant with analogies and metaphor than some in our halls of Congress understood exactly what he meant. 'Pay your taxes. Your religion, like the Kingdom of Heaven, is spiritual and is within you. Give spiritual things to God, give material things to the powers that be in the material world.' Am I misreading this passage of scripture, Congressman? If not can you please enlighten me. I breathlessly await your brilliant exposition. As it seems to me you're saying that abortion is OK in the material realm but not in the spiritual, or maybe it's the other way around. I'm totally confused."

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
7. Does this also apply to men
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:12 PM
Apr 2015

buying condoms or having vasectomies? Last I heard those are forms of birth control.
I am getting to the point that, fairly or unfairly just the word "christian" is making me nauseous.
Why is it always the men in congress that come up with this misogynistic crap?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
80. whoa, whoa, whoa....let's not get crazy here!!!
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 09:25 AM
Apr 2015

(SARCASM INTENDED just to be clear!)

If Viagra remains covered and birth control is not then I truly hope every man taking Viagra, while simultaneously exposing the evils of women taking control of their bodies through birth control, suffers a debilitating embolism and ends up being sustained on a feeding tube with no control over their own bodies as cosmic justice.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
9. As a Michigander, I can only say that Walberg is an embarrassment to my state.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:20 PM
Apr 2015

What a total jerk, and always has been. Voters electing him should be ashamed.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
10. Caesar wasn't even brought into the world in a
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:27 PM
Apr 2015

way designed by God. I'm surprised they're using him as a proponent for natural birth.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
12. Did the guy use a scripture about paying TAXES as a reason to fire women for using birth control
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:41 PM
Apr 2015

What a WHACK JOB

NBachers

(17,107 posts)
13. We'd all have been better off if Mary had been on The Pill herself.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 12:42 PM
Apr 2015

This guy looks, talks, and thinks like a huge anal cyst. How does anyone vote for ignorant vicious shit-balls like this?

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
27. complete idiot & wtf does the quote have to do w/birth control?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:34 PM
Apr 2015

these pukes cannot even think straight

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
28. America 21st Century
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:40 PM
Apr 2015

Giving men more control over women's bodies, and giving them the guns to enforce it.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
29. Why is a representative of the people in Michigan
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:43 PM
Apr 2015

Worried about protecting the religious hatred of employers in the District of Columbia?

Overstep much?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
30. It's a good thing that the GOP isn't engaging in a war against women.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:47 PM
Apr 2015

If they are this bad when they are friendly I would hate to see what they would do if they had evil intentions. Oh wait...

Novara

(5,841 posts)
32. This is 2015, folks.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 01:51 PM
Apr 2015

Thank about that for a while. We've been fighting about BIRTH CONTROL throughout the last few years when IT WAS SETTLED in 1965 in Griswold v. Connecticut.

This is, of course, unconstitutional, not that it ever stops them.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
35. Didn't you know the role of women is to be a vessel for spirits from God?
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 02:11 PM
Apr 2015

Preventing a pregnancy is making all of those baby spirits sit forever in the Divine Waiting Room.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
36. Becuz - you know - Every sperm is sacred
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 02:14 PM
Apr 2015


Because every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm is wasted
God gets quite irate


Monty Python - The Meaning of Life

tartan2

(314 posts)
43. Hey folks this gop turd is an ordained minister.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 02:58 PM
Apr 2015

He wouldn't know or understand separation of church and state. Why isn't there a law preventing a minister from holding any political office? It is just so wrong.......

The CCC

(463 posts)
48. Pic Of The Moment: GOP Congressmen Want Employers To Be Able To Fire Women For Using Birth Control
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 03:33 PM
Apr 2015

When I want to render unto God I go to the church of my choice, not my government/employer. Keep your damn government/employer out of my religion.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
49. Gee...this is a real trip down Memory Lane on the Wayback Machine
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 03:50 PM
Apr 2015

Usta be, employers could ask a married female being interviewed for a job just what she did to keep from getting pregnant, since they didn't want to deal with the cost of providing, medical expenditures during the pregnancy, maternity leave, paying someone to cover her job, all that spendy stuff. Then there were the probing questions asked working mothers about who watches the kids while the Mom's at work, etc. etc. etc. The idea that a female employee should make as much as her male counterpart was, of course, unheard of. The notion of the working mother was almost unheard of (back in the 50s and 60s, before the Feminism Movement hit the national radar), since hubby was supposed to be the breadwinner and stay-at-home moms were the "norm". I'll never forget a children's book about "the family", which stated (with appropriate illustrations of course), "Daddy goes to work to make pennies, Mommy stays home to take care of baby." Sigh....

But I digress. Fact is, I'm simply appalled at this "congress-idiot's" statement. First of all, the twisted scripture taking Jesus' words out of context is bad enough, but I'm guessing he's totally against employers covering health care for female employees who aren't allowed to use birth control when the resulting pregnancy/childbirth/child care expenses kick in.

Good. Grief. And god help us all.



 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
51. Whenever you hear "Jesus THE Christ"...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:23 PM
Apr 2015

you can bet lunacy is going to follow. Why can't they just say "Jesus Christ"? Do we say "Tim the Walberg"?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
55. And god what's god's
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:53 PM
Apr 2015

I have GOT to remember to return that casserole dish I borrowed from Shiva!



Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
56. I think he might be saying that gov't shouldn't make law about why employers can fire people.
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 04:59 PM
Apr 2015

Which is clearly wrong of him, if so. We make such laws all the time, like you can't be fired for being away at jury duty.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
60. And if you are pregnant or have kids,
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:41 PM
Apr 2015

they probably will want you fired as well. I am sure that they will find scripture to justify that as well.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
61. So where are the MALE employees being fired for buying condoms,
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 06:51 PM
Apr 2015

or horror, for getting vasectomies? Little secret Misogynists? Females don't get pregnant all by themselves. Sin? Hello? MALES spilling their "seed" without the possibility of conception!

Turbineguy

(37,319 posts)
62. One thing I've noticed about some people who go to Washington
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:05 PM
Apr 2015

They get imbued with some sort of mental disorder. They think that whatever they say makes sense and is good. When in fact they are deranged morons.

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
64. WTF...
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:57 PM
Apr 2015

These idiots continue to quote bible verse and continue to completely miss the point of the verse. It is times like this when it would really be nice to see another member set aside the courtesy and decorum and call this idiots stupidity out in front of everyone.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
81. This is the very reason for the decline of the Christian Church,,,
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 10:31 AM
Apr 2015

idiots making up Church Doctrine to suit their own needs. Christ never spoke of birth control in the Scriptures.

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
85. I agree. W... T... F...!
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 11:30 AM
Apr 2015

This is exactly one of many reasons why young people are leaving religion in record numbers in 2014. I left it in 2005 and I found myself to be far more spiritually connected to Mother Earth than ever.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
87. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 01:27 PM
Apr 2015

or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Contrary to many Republican "thinkers," this applies to individuals as well as corporations.

If a woman doesn't happen to interpret the Bible, or the Writ of Cthulhu, or whatever, the same way Rep. Dumbass does, she should not be discriminated against any more than if she were a Unitarian rather than whatever dumbass religion Rep. Dumbass pretends to follow.

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