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EarlG

(21,935 posts)
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:59 AM May 2015

Pic Of The Moment: Well There's Your Problem



Study: Lawmakers Assume Voters Are Way More Conservative Than They Are


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Pic Of The Moment: Well There's Your Problem (Original Post) EarlG May 2015 OP
Um. F4lconF16 May 2015 #1
study shows Liberals & Conservatives think voters are more conservative than they are. Conservatives Bill USA May 2015 #17
Yes. F4lconF16 May 2015 #18
Don't they have only one constituent... SoapBox May 2015 #2
When they're in their home districts, the congresscritters from my part of the state bulloney May 2015 #5
+1! Enthusiast May 2015 #21
I have encountered this with regular people who ID me as Republican... Human101948 May 2015 #3
+1 Johonny May 2015 #8
I get that all the time. byronius May 2015 #10
Human101946? Taken. Darn. Human101947? Taken. Darn. tclambert May 2015 #14
but the right-wing position get more of the dollar-weighted votes.... unblock May 2015 #4
Now what WE need to do is get the centrist to liberal people OUT TO THE POLLS on election day! MADem May 2015 #6
unfortunately, a lot of Democrats assume this too yurbud May 2015 #7
This is Republican politics in a nutshell... Wounded Bear May 2015 #9
Hell - are GOP Congressdolt goes out of his WAY Plucketeer May 2015 #11
If these cretins don't represent the needs of their own constituents, Beacool May 2015 #12
Fox News / talk radio underpants May 2015 #13
I don't think their constituents OneCrazyDiamond May 2015 #15
A political party dedicated to the meme "govt is the always the problem" - what could go wrong? phantom power May 2015 #16
Then why do they keep voting zentrum May 2015 #19
The error formula is mean polynomial May 2015 #20

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
17. study shows Liberals & Conservatives think voters are more conservative than they are. Conservatives
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:24 PM
May 2015

.. error in estimating leanings of voters by much wider margin than Liberals.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026705125



On three issues — universal healthcare, same-sex marriage, and welfare — lawmakers' assumptions about what their constituents believed were "15-20 percent more conservative, on average," than the actual base of public support for such issues.

The typical conservative legislator overestimates his or her district’s conservatism by a whopping[font size="+1"] 20 percentage points[/font]. Indeed, he or she believes the district is even more conservative than the most right-leaning district in the entire country.

Liberals also think their constituents’ views are more conservative than they really are, but are typically only off by about [font size="+1"] five percentage points[/font].

Most conservative legislators believe their positions on same-sex marriage and health care command majority support in their districts – but only two-fifths are correct. In contrast, liberal legislators usually share views with constituents, but one in five does not know it.

F4lconF16

(3,747 posts)
18. Yes.
Thu May 21, 2015, 04:33 PM
May 2015

Doesn't negate my point. It's particularly relevant given the constant calls by establishment Democrats to move rightwards to accomodate voters.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
5. When they're in their home districts, the congresscritters from my part of the state
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:34 PM
May 2015

only attend events sponsored by RW organizations like the Chamber, Knights of Columbus, Farm Bureau, or whatever. They basically function in a RW echo chamber and think everybody resoundingly has a RW perspective on everything.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
3. I have encountered this with regular people who ID me as Republican...
Thu May 21, 2015, 12:10 PM
May 2015

because I am a WASP. They assume that I share their racist views and their belief in all the disproven economic theories because of what I look like. They are so convinced that their loony beliefs are shared by everyone who looks like them.

byronius

(7,391 posts)
10. I get that all the time.
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:38 PM
May 2015

And I love the look on their faces when they find out I'm a tree-hugging Leveler.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
14. Human101946? Taken. Darn. Human101947? Taken. Darn.
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:44 PM
May 2015

Human101948? Available! Yay!

You must have incredible patience.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Now what WE need to do is get the centrist to liberal people OUT TO THE POLLS on election day!
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:05 PM
May 2015

With GOTV we can win these races. Never go alone to the polls--fill your car! Fill it several times, if you have the time! Every vote counts!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
7. unfortunately, a lot of Democrats assume this too
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:14 PM
May 2015

there was majority support for the Public Option in the states of some legislators who opposed it.

Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)
9. This is Republican politics in a nutshell...
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:17 PM
May 2015

Last edited Thu May 21, 2015, 05:15 PM - Edit history (1)

If only 35% of the population vote, they only need 20% support to win office.

Obvously they pretty much have the wealthy support to afford their bullshit campaign advertising blitzes.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
11. Hell - are GOP Congressdolt goes out of his WAY
Thu May 21, 2015, 01:47 PM
May 2015

to hear from the common-folk constituents of his district. Even when it's time for re-election, he only hears from the monied sorts here. I can GUARANTEE you that he cares not one whit about representing my views!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
12. If these cretins don't represent the needs of their own constituents,
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:04 PM
May 2015

then why do the idiots keep voting them in?

underpants

(182,632 posts)
13. Fox News / talk radio
Thu May 21, 2015, 02:30 PM
May 2015

All the politician has to do is use the right familiar moith words and the voters are like moths to a flame.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
19. Then why do they keep voting
Thu May 21, 2015, 07:10 PM
May 2015

…for Reps and putting them in charge of the two Houses of Congress?

This research, if well done, underscores for me how really dreadful Dem messaging, framing and sense of politics must be. Why are we so often on the ropes—or losing elections and the issues they stand for? Well, I know why. But I do question the conclusions of this research.

polynomial

(750 posts)
20. The error formula is mean
Thu May 21, 2015, 11:13 PM
May 2015

It is with a very hearty laugh and chuckle to read this article. The typical local politicians are off in their estimates by twenty percent seems very weird and too low. This error must be more like two hundred percent off in estimates.

If the focus is the one percent Conservative Republican that truly, truly are conservative, everything is so secret, or fraudulent, rigged, or misinterpreted, that likely cannot be determined.

We all know they want to swindle as much tax money away to build personal fortunes, all the while getting a better health care plan and the better pension plan, plus always giving themselves a raise, yet complain about the ordinary electorate would screw up the economy if they got the same.

The so called error formula should be introduced early into the K12 system it’s not working good now as it is in the education system, especially new potential electorates, and the candidates possibly have no clue about this mathematical reasoning.

It’s funny to even think about a behavior study with the demographic population having no skill in the exponentiation formula essentially getting pin-balled by the United Health Care Company, or what is contemporary behavior management, via media commercials. Whatever the population see on television commercials is what many do in life, which is worse than an error function. So we become pin ball wizards...

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