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My appearance on Fox & Friends this morning discussing Carly Fiorina's Presidential bid (Original Post) stevenleser May 2015 OP
Good job Steve EV_Ares May 2015 #1
Thank you! stevenleser May 2015 #9
You did great Steve, they so wanted to shut you down but you hung in there.....n/t monmouth4 May 2015 #2
Thank you! stevenleser May 2015 #10
It was a good discussion. You did great SummerSnow May 2015 #3
1/3 of the time and interrupted ... fair and balanced. rickford66 May 2015 #4
I admire your cool under pressure. kentuck May 2015 #5
I try! stevenleser May 2015 #20
I think Fiorina's message to Republican voters is... thesquanderer May 2015 #6
Exactly. She is offering very little in terms of policies and in terms of a resume. stevenleser May 2015 #12
She's showing off what a good stalker she is. Cha May 2015 #21
Study the whole story behind her pushing to OEM Apple's IPOD instead of pursuing HP's solutions... cascadiance May 2015 #31
Fiorina is literally stalking Clinton on the campaign trail? MrModerate May 2015 #7
She was at least last week. I dont think that's the worst strategy. It's too bad she made so little stevenleser May 2015 #11
Amazing that Ms. Fiorina now believes, "China can't Innovate".... LovingA2andMI May 2015 #18
Great research. I am going to use that if I talk about her again. stevenleser May 2015 #23
No Problem.... LovingA2andMI May 2015 #24
She just could not say it. pangaia May 2015 #28
Fiorina sounds more like a heckler than really doing any kind of constructive criticism of Hillary EV_Ares May 2015 #22
My take on Fiorino is that she's extremely shallow. MrModerate May 2015 #30
Well, lets' see if she lives up to giving you the "last word next time" mountain grammy May 2015 #8
How dare you criticize Fox's blatant preferred candidate? zebonaut May 2015 #13
LOL You didn't need a "last word" BumRushDaShow May 2015 #14
When the Foxettes put up the Clown Car graphic with the ten, ten and counting, GOP Presidential perps....I laughed. Fred Sanders May 2015 #15
Excellent job Steve. you used your time very effectively to convey that the emperess has no clothes. CentralMass May 2015 #16
OMG... cilla4progress May 2015 #17
I agree, that was just an attempt to hype a Republican candidate who's going nowhere Jack Rabbit May 2015 #19
In a nutshell Ineeda May 2015 #25
That really is it. The reason for her candidacy is totally mystifying to me stevenleser May 2015 #27
Nice! Mike Nelson May 2015 #26
Good job. Though my favorite line came from the Republican woman: DanTex May 2015 #29
 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
9. Thank you!
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:43 AM
May 2015

I was happy with how that went.

They always treat me pretty well. I think there is a lot of congeniality among pundits off camera.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
20. I try!
Sat May 30, 2015, 02:52 PM
May 2015

As they said in the Big Lebowski, sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you.

I try to keep them guessing with what I am going to say.

thesquanderer

(11,953 posts)
6. I think Fiorina's message to Republican voters is...
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:07 AM
May 2015

"If the next president is going to be a woman, wouldn't you rather it were me?"

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
12. Exactly. She is offering very little in terms of policies and in terms of a resume.
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:57 AM
May 2015

wrecking HP and one failed election attempt doesn't sound so great to me.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
31. Study the whole story behind her pushing to OEM Apple's IPOD instead of pursuing HP's solutions...
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:03 AM
May 2015

Her decision to have HP OEM the IPOD instead of continuing the work on HP's own portable music player and downloads solutions along with it's many partners (including a company I worked with at the time then) that would have made the marketplace a lot more open and interoperable between different vendors. That HP Ipod didn't last too long and mainly helped Steve Jobs lock up that market for Ipods and Itunes than it helped HP. I think there probably was a lot of internal frustration with Fiorina with that effort as well as the Compaq mess.

http://windowsitpro.com/windows/opinion-hps-ipod-moves-could-hurt-industry-12-jan-2004-0

http://www.charlesarthur.com/blog/2005/08/01/fiorinas-curse-lives-on-after-hp-kills-apple-deal-to-resell-ipod/

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
7. Fiorina is literally stalking Clinton on the campaign trail?
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:07 AM
May 2015

Isn't she supposed to be wearing a chicken costume when she does that?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
11. She was at least last week. I dont think that's the worst strategy. It's too bad she made so little
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:56 AM
May 2015

of it. She got the attention she wanted. She could have used that to make some solid policy proposals. What she did instead is attack Hillary with meaningless jibes, suggested the Chinese can't innovate when they are producing more intellectual property and patents per year than we are in the US and she suggested that to deal with ISIS we should arm the Kurds to the teeth, which sounds great, except that it would really upset Turkey, one of our most important allies in the region and a fellow NATO member.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
18. Amazing that Ms. Fiorina now believes, "China can't Innovate"....
Sat May 30, 2015, 01:02 PM
May 2015

As she didn't think so, while CEO of HP:

"Moreover, Fiorina contends that over the entire course of her tenure at HP, the company created more jobs than it cut.

She explains this in an exchange with Chris Wallace in a Fox News interview on June 13, 2010.

"But, Ms. Fiorina, if the issue is jobs, Senator Boxer says your record is what you did as the head of Hewlett-Packard, "Wallace said. "And the record shows, according to her -- and it's not just her, the facts are that during that time you laid off more than 30,000 American workers, and many of those jobs went to India and China."

"It is true, I managed Hewlett-Packard through the worst technology recession in 25 years," Fiorina said. "And in those tough times, we had to make some tough calls.

"It is also true that, net-net, we created jobs," she said. "We doubled the size of the company from $44 billion to $88 billion. We tripled the rate of innovation to 11 patents a day. We quintupled the cash flow. We improved the profitability in every product segment and ...

"What about the 30,000 American jobs that...you laid off?" Wallace asked.

"You know, every family and every business in California knows what it means to go through tough times," Fiorina said. "And every family is cutting back, and every business is laying off right now. I don't say that with delight. I say that with sorrow. But yes, it is true that jobs are being taken out of California. By the way, China fights harder for our jobs than we do. Texas fights for our jobs. Nevada fights for our jobs. North Carolina fights for our jobs. We have to start fighting for our jobs in this nation and in our state."


Read More: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/17/barbara-boxer/ad-sen-barbara-boxer-attacks-carly-fiorina-layoffs/

Let quote that line one more time:
But yes, it is true that jobs are being taken out of California. By the way, China fights harder for our jobs than we do., says Carly Fiorina in 2010.

So, we think she might want to stop talking out of both sides of her mouth -- as it's not a "Good Look" for a Job Outsourcer who now says she's again not Job Outsourcing. Just saying!

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
28. She just could not say it.
Sat May 30, 2015, 06:45 PM
May 2015

She could not get the words out of her mouth that, yes, she destroyed more jobs than she created.

 

EV_Ares

(6,587 posts)
22. Fiorina sounds more like a heckler than really doing any kind of constructive criticism of Hillary
Sat May 30, 2015, 05:34 PM
May 2015

which she is unable to do of course. You look at her lack of success of running HP & the successes Hillary has had all the way from First Lady of Arkansas, Senator, & SecofState. A wealth of experience & success that she can't match & ends up looking silly & like nothing more than a heckler.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
30. My take on Fiorino is that she's extremely shallow.
Sat May 30, 2015, 08:19 PM
May 2015

And the reason she didn't make more of the opportunity is because she doesn't have much of substance to say.

mountain grammy

(26,568 posts)
8. Well, lets' see if she lives up to giving you the "last word next time"
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:23 AM
May 2015

since you got to say so few words this time while they babbled on about a fringe candidate who has never really accomplished anything except to run a company into the ground and create unemployment.

Glad this was a short clip. The two women were causing my brain cells to die, and I don't have too many more to lose.

 

zebonaut

(3,688 posts)
13. How dare you criticize Fox's blatant preferred candidate?
Sat May 30, 2015, 10:59 AM
May 2015

You could see the angry venom in the face of the host when you failed to praise winger Fiorina... good job!

BumRushDaShow

(127,270 posts)
14. LOL You didn't need a "last word"
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:09 AM
May 2015

because what you said in your "initial word" was more than enough to describe what a candidate should be discussing!

The other panelist was nothing but the sound and fury that signifies the nothingness of Carly Fiorina.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
15. When the Foxettes put up the Clown Car graphic with the ten, ten and counting, GOP Presidential perps....I laughed.
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:17 AM
May 2015

"OK, sir, take a close look at the lineup, take your time......vomit-inducing, I know, but..you have to pick one, sir...it is how American democracy works".

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
16. Excellent job Steve. you used your time very effectively to convey that the emperess has no clothes.
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:53 AM
May 2015

I worked for CPQ and the merged HPQ during her reign of terror.

I hope you showered and went through delousing after being on that set.

cilla4progress

(24,585 posts)
17. OMG...
Sat May 30, 2015, 11:56 AM
May 2015

Bless you! This is the only way / time I could possibly watch these dittoheads.

Thanks for standing up and posting. Classy.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
19. I agree, that was just an attempt to hype a Republican candidate who's going nowhere
Sat May 30, 2015, 02:21 PM
May 2015

. . . and Carly's going nowhere at the speed of light.

Ineeda

(3,626 posts)
25. In a nutshell
Sat May 30, 2015, 06:24 PM
May 2015

Fiorina's qualifications to be POTUS are:
A: currently running in a field of other nuts
B: failed Senatorial campaign
C: failed CEO of HP

Well, yowza. That sure beats Hillary's qualifications, doesn't it?

Good job, Steve.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
27. That really is it. The reason for her candidacy is totally mystifying to me
Sat May 30, 2015, 06:45 PM
May 2015

She has all the negatives of Romney in terms of not having the ability to appeal to the middle class and firing/laying off people but even worse than Romney she can't point to the ability to win any kind of campaign.

Then of course we have her basically wrecking HP by buying a company that had a lot of overhead and a product line with a very small profit margin, something any CEO should have been wary of doing. HP is still digging itself out of that mess with about $15 Billion in assets on its books from that transaction that are essentially worthless.

I have no idea who thinks she ought to be running or why.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
29. Good job. Though my favorite line came from the Republican woman:
Sat May 30, 2015, 06:45 PM
May 2015

"When you have Governor Walker talking about how "ultrasounds are cool", it doesn't play very well"
LOL.

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