Sat May 30, 2015, 08:42 AM

My appearance on Fox & Friends this morning discussing Carly Fiorina's Presidential bid

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My appearance on Fox & Friends this morning discussing Carly Fiorina's Presidential bid (Original post)	stevenleser	May 2015	OP
Good job Steve	EV_Ares	May 2015	#1
Thank you!	stevenleser	May 2015	#9
You did great Steve, they so wanted to shut you down but you hung in there.....n/t	monmouth4	May 2015	#2
Thank you!	stevenleser	May 2015	#10
It was a good discussion. You did great	SummerSnow	May 2015	#3
1/3 of the time and interrupted ... fair and balanced.	rickford66	May 2015	#4
I admire your cool under pressure.	kentuck	May 2015	#5
I try!	stevenleser	May 2015	#20
I think Fiorina's message to Republican voters is...	thesquanderer	May 2015	#6
Exactly. She is offering very little in terms of policies and in terms of a resume.	stevenleser	May 2015	#12
She's showing off what a good stalker she is.	Cha	May 2015	#21
Study the whole story behind her pushing to OEM Apple's IPOD instead of pursuing HP's solutions...	cascadiance	May 2015	#31
Fiorina is literally stalking Clinton on the campaign trail?	MrModerate	May 2015	#7
She was at least last week. I dont think that's the worst strategy. It's too bad she made so little	stevenleser	May 2015	#11
Amazing that Ms. Fiorina now believes, "China can't Innovate"....	LovingA2andMI	May 2015	#18
Great research. I am going to use that if I talk about her again.	stevenleser	May 2015	#23
No Problem....	LovingA2andMI	May 2015	#24
She just could not say it.	pangaia	May 2015	#28
Fiorina sounds more like a heckler than really doing any kind of constructive criticism of Hillary	EV_Ares	May 2015	#22
My take on Fiorino is that she's extremely shallow.	MrModerate	May 2015	#30
Well, lets' see if she lives up to giving you the "last word next time"	mountain grammy	May 2015	#8
How dare you criticize Fox's blatant preferred candidate?	zebonaut	May 2015	#13
LOL You didn't need a "last word"	BumRushDaShow	May 2015	#14
When the Foxettes put up the Clown Car graphic with the ten, ten and counting, GOP Presidential perps....I laughed.	Fred Sanders	May 2015	#15
Excellent job Steve. you used your time very effectively to convey that the emperess has no clothes.	CentralMass	May 2015	#16
OMG...	cilla4progress	May 2015	#17
I agree, that was just an attempt to hype a Republican candidate who's going nowhere	Jack Rabbit	May 2015	#19
In a nutshell	Ineeda	May 2015	#25
That really is it. The reason for her candidacy is totally mystifying to me	stevenleser	May 2015	#27
Nice!	Mike Nelson	May 2015	#26
Good job. Though my favorite line came from the Republican woman:	DanTex	May 2015	#29

Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 09:09 AM

EV_Ares (6,587 posts)

1. Good job Steve

How does fox treat you when you go on there anyway?

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Response to EV_Ares (Reply #1)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:43 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

9. Thank you!

I was happy with how that went.

They always treat me pretty well. I think there is a lot of congeniality among pundits off camera.

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Sat May 30, 2015, 09:18 AM

monmouth4 (8,931 posts)

2. You did great Steve, they so wanted to shut you down but you hung in there.....n/t

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Response to monmouth4 (Reply #2)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:43 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

10. Thank you!

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 09:28 AM

SummerSnow (12,608 posts)

3. It was a good discussion. You did great

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 09:30 AM

rickford66 (5,192 posts)

4. 1/3 of the time and interrupted ... fair and balanced.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 09:46 AM

kentuck (108,795 posts)

5. I admire your cool under pressure.

Good job!

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Response to kentuck (Reply #5)

Sat May 30, 2015, 02:52 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

20. I try!

As they said in the Big Lebowski, sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you.

I try to keep them guessing with what I am going to say.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:07 AM

thesquanderer (11,552 posts)

6. I think Fiorina's message to Republican voters is...

"If the next president is going to be a woman, wouldn't you rather it were me?"

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #6)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:57 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

12. Exactly. She is offering very little in terms of policies and in terms of a resume.

wrecking HP and one failed election attempt doesn't sound so great to me.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #12)

Sat May 30, 2015, 03:57 PM

Cha (283,895 posts)

21. She's showing off what a good stalker she is.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #12)

Sun May 31, 2015, 03:03 AM

cascadiance (19,537 posts)

31. Study the whole story behind her pushing to OEM Apple's IPOD instead of pursuing HP's solutions...

Her decision to have HP OEM the IPOD instead of continuing the work on HP's own portable music player and downloads solutions along with it's many partners (including a company I worked with at the time then) that would have made the marketplace a lot more open and interoperable between different vendors. That HP Ipod didn't last too long and mainly helped Steve Jobs lock up that market for Ipods and Itunes than it helped HP. I think there probably was a lot of internal frustration with Fiorina with that effort as well as the Compaq mess.

http://windowsitpro.com/windows/opinion-hps-ipod-moves-could-hurt-industry-12-jan-2004-0

http://www.charlesarthur.com/blog/2005/08/01/fiorinas-curse-lives-on-after-hp-kills-apple-deal-to-resell-ipod/

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:07 AM

MrModerate (9,753 posts)

7. Fiorina is literally stalking Clinton on the campaign trail?

Isn't she supposed to be wearing a chicken costume when she does that?

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Response to MrModerate (Reply #7)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:56 AM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

11. She was at least last week. I dont think that's the worst strategy. It's too bad she made so little

of it. She got the attention she wanted. She could have used that to make some solid policy proposals. What she did instead is attack Hillary with meaningless jibes, suggested the Chinese can't innovate when they are producing more intellectual property and patents per year than we are in the US and she suggested that to deal with ISIS we should arm the Kurds to the teeth, which sounds great, except that it would really upset Turkey, one of our most important allies in the region and a fellow NATO member.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #11)

Sat May 30, 2015, 01:02 PM

LovingA2andMI (7,006 posts)

18. Amazing that Ms. Fiorina now believes, "China can't Innovate"....

As she didn't think so, while CEO of HP:

"Moreover, Fiorina contends that over the entire course of her tenure at HP, the company created more jobs than it cut.

She explains this in an exchange with Chris Wallace in a Fox News interview on June 13, 2010.

"But, Ms. Fiorina, if the issue is jobs, Senator Boxer says your record is what you did as the head of Hewlett-Packard, "Wallace said. "And the record shows, according to her -- and it's not just her, the facts are that during that time you laid off more than 30,000 American workers, and many of those jobs went to India and China."

"It is true, I managed Hewlett-Packard through the worst technology recession in 25 years," Fiorina said. "And in those tough times, we had to make some tough calls.

"It is also true that, net-net, we created jobs," she said. "We doubled the size of the company from $44 billion to $88 billion. We tripled the rate of innovation to 11 patents a day. We quintupled the cash flow. We improved the profitability in every product segment and ...

"What about the 30,000 American jobs that...you laid off?" Wallace asked.

"You know, every family and every business in California knows what it means to go through tough times," Fiorina said. "And every family is cutting back, and every business is laying off right now. I don't say that with delight. I say that with sorrow. But yes, it is true that jobs are being taken out of California. By the way, China fights harder for our jobs than we do. Texas fights for our jobs. Nevada fights for our jobs. North Carolina fights for our jobs. We have to start fighting for our jobs in this nation and in our state."

Read More: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/sep/17/barbara-boxer/ad-sen-barbara-boxer-attacks-carly-fiorina-layoffs/

Let quote that line one more time:
But yes, it is true that jobs are being taken out of California. By the way, China fights harder for our jobs than we do., says Carly Fiorina in 2010.

So, we think she might want to stop talking out of both sides of her mouth -- as it's not a "Good Look" for a Job Outsourcer who now says she's again not Job Outsourcing. Just saying!

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #18)

Sat May 30, 2015, 06:05 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

23. Great research. I am going to use that if I talk about her again.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #23)

Sat May 30, 2015, 06:10 PM

LovingA2andMI (7,006 posts)

24. No Problem....

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Response to LovingA2andMI (Reply #18)

Sat May 30, 2015, 06:45 PM

pangaia (24,324 posts)

28. She just could not say it.

She could not get the words out of her mouth that, yes, she destroyed more jobs than she created.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #11)

Sat May 30, 2015, 05:34 PM

EV_Ares (6,587 posts)

22. Fiorina sounds more like a heckler than really doing any kind of constructive criticism of Hillary

which she is unable to do of course. You look at her lack of success of running HP & the successes Hillary has had all the way from First Lady of Arkansas, Senator, & SecofState. A wealth of experience & success that she can't match & ends up looking silly & like nothing more than a heckler.

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Sat May 30, 2015, 08:19 PM

MrModerate (9,753 posts)

30. My take on Fiorino is that she's extremely shallow.

And the reason she didn't make more of the opportunity is because she doesn't have much of substance to say.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:23 AM

mountain grammy (25,286 posts)

8. Well, lets' see if she lives up to giving you the "last word next time"

since you got to say so few words this time while they babbled on about a fringe candidate who has never really accomplished anything except to run a company into the ground and create unemployment.

Glad this was a short clip. The two women were causing my brain cells to die, and I don't have too many more to lose.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 10:59 AM

zebonaut (3,688 posts)

13. How dare you criticize Fox's blatant preferred candidate?

You could see the angry venom in the face of the host when you failed to praise winger Fiorina... good job!

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Sat May 30, 2015, 11:09 AM

BumRushDaShow (109,781 posts)

14. LOL You didn't need a "last word"

because what you said in your "initial word" was more than enough to describe what a candidate should be discussing!

The other panelist was nothing but the sound and fury that signifies the nothingness of Carly Fiorina.

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Sat May 30, 2015, 11:17 AM

Fred Sanders (23,946 posts)

15. When the Foxettes put up the Clown Car graphic with the ten, ten and counting, GOP Presidential perps....I laughed.

"OK, sir, take a close look at the lineup, take your time......vomit-inducing, I know, but..you have to pick one, sir...it is how American democracy works".

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Sat May 30, 2015, 11:53 AM

CentralMass (14,616 posts)

16. Excellent job Steve. you used your time very effectively to convey that the emperess has no clothes.

I worked for CPQ and the merged HPQ during her reign of terror.

I hope you showered and went through delousing after being on that set.

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Sat May 30, 2015, 11:56 AM

cilla4progress (22,500 posts)

17. OMG...

Bless you! This is the only way / time I could possibly watch these dittoheads.

Thanks for standing up and posting. Classy.

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Sat May 30, 2015, 02:21 PM

Jack Rabbit (45,984 posts)

19. I agree, that was just an attempt to hype a Republican candidate who's going nowhere

. . . and Carly's going nowhere at the speed of light.

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Sat May 30, 2015, 06:24 PM

Ineeda (3,626 posts)

25. In a nutshell

Fiorina's qualifications to be POTUS are:
A: currently running in a field of other nuts
B: failed Senatorial campaign
C: failed CEO of HP

Well, yowza. That sure beats Hillary's qualifications, doesn't it?

Good job, Steve.

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Response to Ineeda (Reply #25)

Sat May 30, 2015, 06:45 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

27. That really is it. The reason for her candidacy is totally mystifying to me

She has all the negatives of Romney in terms of not having the ability to appeal to the middle class and firing/laying off people but even worse than Romney she can't point to the ability to win any kind of campaign.

Then of course we have her basically wrecking HP by buying a company that had a lot of overhead and a product line with a very small profit margin, something any CEO should have been wary of doing. HP is still digging itself out of that mess with about $15 Billion in assets on its books from that transaction that are essentially worthless.

I have no idea who thinks she ought to be running or why.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat May 30, 2015, 06:42 PM

Mike Nelson (9,363 posts)

26. Nice!

They should have given you more time, but you still made the best impression.

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Sat May 30, 2015, 06:45 PM

DanTex (20,709 posts)

29. Good job. Though my favorite line came from the Republican woman:

"When you have Governor Walker talking about how "ultrasounds are cool", it doesn't play very well"
LOL.

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