Comcast Orders MSNBC To Remove Anti-TPP Hosts

[GoLeft TV]

When it comes to coverage of the Trans Pacific Partnership, no one in the corporate media covered the issue more than Ed Schultz on MSNBC’s The Ed Show. When it was announced last week that they were pulling the plug on his program, they effectively killed the only national voice that was talking about the disaster of a trade deal on cable news.

But what is the real reason for MSNBC dumping Ed? When you dig down, it’s dirtier than you would think.

Ring of Fire’s Mike Papantonio and Farron Cousins discuss this.

[Triana]

1. NPR also FORCED its radio hosts to ONLY allow guests who support TPP. n/t

[lark]

2. NPR aka the Kochs

Bet their guests also don't come out against fracking, Keystone, oil drilling in AK, etc. etc.

[cascadiance]

76. NPR's now drinking the koolaid too!

[harun]

128. It happened quite a while ago to NPR, sad.

[uhnope]

18. "forced"? Any proof of that?

[Triana]

22. Diane Rehm SAID HERSELF that they were not allowing ANY calls from

anyone who was against TPP and ALL her guests were FOR it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026914542

[uhnope]

29. So your "proof" is your own account. You shouldn't put words in Rehm's mouth

unless you can prove it. Fail. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026052412

[Triana]

58. I DID NOT "PUT WORDS in Rehm's mouth"

I SAID THAT NPR WOULD NOT ALLOW GUESTS OR CALLERS WHO DID NOT SUPPORT TPP - and I am correct about that.

This is not about Diane Rehm. It's about NPR and their corprat owner/controllers policies, which Ms. Rehm MUST follow.

[uhnope]

62. Yes you did. And now you are talking about the NPR "policies". Can you provide any evidence

of what you are talking about?

Here's what you said about Rehm:
"Diane Rehm SAID HERSELF that they were not allowing ANY calls from anyone who was against TPP and ALL her guests were FOR it."
But the only proof you have is that you say you heard her say that. Not good enough. That's putting words into Rehm's mouth.

Now you allege that NPR policies don't allow anyone to support TPP. Again, where are those policies, or proof of those policies?

[Triana]

66. GO listen to the program from that day. SHE SAID IT.

The proof is in the program. But you don't want to take the time to go listen to the PROOF of what she said. You just want to TROLL me. I put NO words in her mouth. She SAID it during that program. If you're too lazy to listen because trolling is easier, that's your issue, not mine.

Corprat-owned media does not PUBLISH its rightwing corporate-interests-only policies. But they DO enforce them. That's why there is NO so-called "liberal" media.

Now, I'm going to block you because you are being deliberately obtuse.

If you want to listen to the program from that day you'll hear what she said for yourself. Otherwise, you WILL stop trolling me, at least.

[uhnope]

142. that would be great proof. Link to the show that day?

Time at which point during the show she said it?

[billhicks76]

104. Get Over It Apologist

It's freakin obvious. So what if ratings were down...then fire all of MSNBC. The board at Comcast are republican ACTIVISTS. They would purposefully keep ratings down to support their religious agenda. They are exactly like Hillary...fake, corporate and cunning Bush surrogates. Hello. Wake up. They want Jeb Bush in the White House and Clinton is their chosen ally back up. They should all be punished for their collusion.

[uhnope]

105. wow. WTF?

[fasttense]

111. Wow, you called that poster a liar

And they didn't alert on you. You'er lucky they put up with that. If you did that to me, I would alert on you in a minute. You should read up on the rules.

[uhnope]

112. lol. Alert all you want. get some critical thinking skills while you're at it

I asked for proof. No proof came. That's not calling someone a liar. Learn.

[billhicks76]

117. Proof?

Are you an ostrich with their head buried in the sand living under a rock? If you haven't diligently figured this out yet then maybe you spend time in the wrong places.

[fasttense]

136. You really can't help your self.

You have to insult everyone you disagree with. You need to quit being insulting and calling people names.

My critical thinking skills lack nothing despite you insulting them. Insult me one more time and I will alert on your last 3 posts. If you don't like to follow the rules for posting, then go post at another site. DU does not need people who only know how to insult to win an argument.

[uhnope]

140. sorry but saying that something is nonsense and shows a lack of critical thinking is not an insult

you said I called someone a liar-- I did not. I asked them for proof and then I showed that their so-called proof was not proof, it was just their own claim of hearing something on the radio.

I could claim to personally have seen 25 Bigfoots (Bigfeet?) doing a line dance, but that wouldn't be proof of the existence of Bigfoots or the line-dancing incident.

If you don't understand the difference, then perhaps you need to work on your critical thinking skills. That's it, it's not an insult.

[billhicks76]

118. Comcast

Look up their Board Of Directors. They didn't even include MSNBC in their standard cable package with FOX and CNN for years. And just ask Bush Sr and his sons what they think of Bill and Hillary...they have they RARE title of being honorary Bush Family members and they don't deny it. Bush hand selected Bill as a hedge for their cause when Perot entered the race and he needed a backup to maintain the power he had since 1980. Clinton intimated it during the 1991 PBS Roundtable primary debate when he threatened Jerry Brown. I don't have time to have to play teacher for the uneducated student. I assume you're an adult and if you missed this all these years then it's just explains why Rush has Dittoheads and GW's religious followers that live on a bubble...even we have people that have drank the Kool Aid. You still have time for redemption though.

[uhnope]

132. your fondness for personal insult probably explains a lot.

Is your insulting spite the cause or the outcome of your marginal views? Or--third option--maybe you enjoy playing the victimized outsider in this world, and behaving like a vindictive pseud helps you stay that way.

You act like any of the info you offered is common knowledge. Big surprise, Billy, it's not, so why don't you get off it and provide some links--it's not too late for you. Though (speaking of koolaid) you also seem to think it all would prove the CT of the OP, so you might want to provide that too.

Oh, wait. You also think there are NSA troll farms attacking DU. Nevermind, it is too late.

[billhicks76]

138. Your Hilarious

If you can't accept Clintons connections to the Bush family then that is your choice. But some of us take seriously when someone wants to "rule" over us and feels entitled to do so for their own selfish reasons. I've posted so any links to this in the past and frankly it's not my job to teach everytime I post my opinion. Watch the 91 pbs Roundtable debate for starters. Read all the direct quotes from the Bush family and Clintons admiration for them. They used to try and hide it before 2000. Now they enable each other. And as far as NSA troll farms go you really are funny. The LA Times, New Yorker and NYT did some articles about military contractors managing public opinion with sock puppet online profiles and DU was definitely hounded during all the NSA threads.

[uhnope]

139. billhicks76: your CT would be hilarious if not for the outright lying

billhicks76: The NSA online efforts were very specifically aimed at websites in the Middle East and were designed to cut down on the number of young Arab men being recruited into extremist beliefs via ISIS, Al Qaeda etc. The languages used were specific to that region. So not English and not in the USA. If you read those articles you know the truth--and therefore if you're trying to portray them otherwise now you're lying. So either you're sorely mistaken (ignorant of what you cite) or you are making shit up for the sake of your CT.

[billhicks76]

141. I'm The Liar?

Because your belief system is narrow and conforms first to consensus reality? You are wrong. Those sock puppet profiles ALSO we used in the US. In myriad ways too u might add. First off, foreign countries aligned with our national security goals did it here. Israeli contractors also were caught on HugfPost doing it. And many corporations do it here all the time when their products or services are ending commented about online. It's beyond commonplace. And your naïveté is astounding. These military, data and surveillance contracts can be worth hundreds of millions and you think no one is trying to manipulate public opinion? You have the gall to label these "conspiracy theories" and those that mention them as "liars"? That's pathetic just like your point of view.

[wildbilln864]

108. Well said! Thank you. n/t

[arikara]

133. This guy again

I've seen him in action in other threads. No response is best.

[Feeling the Bern]

144. Yes. Don't feed the troll.

[rdking647]

37. there is no proof

some people cant accept the fact that ed's rating sucked.
thats why he was fired.
no one was watching him

[jwirr]

46. Of course not they are all watching morning joe.

[ChiciB1]

107. Yeah, AND THEY Constantly Keep Talking Up Joey Scar...

ALL THE TIME! I refuse to watch that piece of crap show! We ARE pretty SCREWED!

[Triana]

60. I don't know about Ed's ratings. But I DO KNOW that NPR would NOT allow

anyone on Rehm's show that day that was against TPP - and Rehm SAID so.

[JDPriestly]

74. So the news is now a popularity contest.

The most popular news shows get the most air time. Is that how it works?

And when newscasters whip the country into a frenzy about going to war against, say Iraq, and one lone newscaster refuses to go along with the folly of the moment, that newscaster is fired because "he is getting low ratings" with this stuff opposing the War in Iraq. Let's get rid of him.

The news is supposed to be about the TRUTH.

When a news station fires the one newscaster who is speaking out on issues the owners of the news media don't want discussed, it looks suspiciously like they are more interested in broadcasting propaganda than news.

Fox is extremely popular. Should all media look and sound like Fox and tell its story. No. The responsibility of a journalist is beyond pleasing his/her bosses or even the public. It is s telling the straight truth, no holds or unpleasant truths barred.

Ed Schultz was doing that. Always. His firing was, even if excused by low ratings, a political move. Yet another tightening of the ideological noose around the nation by an out-of-control right wing, tiny segment of our population.

It's ugly out there.

DUers should be boycotting cable. You can watch lots of programming without subscribing. I don't know much about Dish TV, but do you have to pay for Fox if you subscribe to Dish?

I'm waiting for cable or Dish that allows ME TO DECIDE WHAT SHOWS I WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO. Sounds like the internet doesn't it.

This is yet another move by the oligarchy to tighten the noose it has on our thoughts, information and ideas.

[ananda]

130. I boycott Fox, MSNBC, and CNN

I occasionally watch BBC World News and Al-Jazeera.

Mostly, I get my news from the internet and try to be careful
of my sources.

[JDPriestly]

131. That is wise.

[Unknown Beatle]

97. Phil Donahue had the highest rated show on MSNBC when he was

fired for being against going to war with Iraq.

I don't buy the idea that Ed was fired because his show had low ratings. Comcast is a corporation whose owners are extremely right wing.

[merrily]

116. IIRC, Olberman's ratings were the best on MSNBC.

[Rockyj]

121. Seriously?

Are you kidding? LMAO!

[L0oniX]

41. Wow ...defending the Koch's on DU. I've seen it all now.

[uhnope]

51. asking for proof = defending Kochs? Wow. I guess critical thinking is really gone

[L0oniX]

53. One hide away from a vacation is all I need to know about you.

[BeanMusical]

67. +1

[uhnope]

96. lol. ad hominen / internet logic strikes again

[annabanana]

126. +1

[rhett o rick]

94. So who are you defending so vigorously? Your questioning wasn't just being interested.

So it strongly appears that you are defending NPR or someone. I get it that you don't like Big Eddy.

[uhnope]

98. so you can read minds now.

spooky

[rhett o rick]

109. It doesn't take a mind reader to tell which side of the debate you are on. nm

[uhnope]

114. wow. Are you intentionally divisive

or have you always been that way?

[RoccoR5955]

52. Would you expect any less from Republican plants?

There are MANY here on DU. Some of us know who many of them are. Some of us just block them, others just ignore their comments.

[whathehell]

26. Quite outrageous, given that they are a so-called "public" radio station.

[dixiegrrrrl]

49. NPR changed its stripes about the same time PBS stopped being progressive.

The Boards of both organizations were taken over by the Death Eaters quite some years ago,
which made it even easier for me to dump MSM media entirely.

[BeanMusical]

70. One of the Koch bros was on the PBS board of 2 broadcasters until last year.

Quick search result:

But David Koch has also been a great supporter of public broadcasting, contributing millions of dollars to the PBS show NOVA as well as serving on the board of public broadcasters WGBH in Boston and WNET in New York City.

This has led to a number of complaints from viewers and listeners that public broadcasting has been tainted by its relationship with Mr. Koch.

http://www.cpb.org/ombudsman/display.php?id=207

[whathehell]

72. Who

are the Death Eaters? I honestly don't know.

[dixiegrrrrl]

86. They are soulless black spirits who suck all that is good from your body.

Perfectly apt name for the Kochs of the world.

[whathehell]

103. Okay!

[RoccoR5955]

36. Of course National Petroleum Radio would do that

I would expect no less!

[jalan48]

90. I also remember when NPR was cheerleading prior to the Iraq War in 2003.

I quit listening to them at that time.

[mmonk]

3. Posted this to Facebook

Thanks.. All people need to know both parties follow laissez faire, rightwing, Milton Friedman economics.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

14. yup...need to spread the word...can't let the corporatists win.

[99th_Monkey]

4. How is this not a full-blown Oligarchy again?

TPP lets Mega-Corps sue sovereign governments pants off,
if they feel regulations are "hurting their profit margin".

And now this Comcast , NBC, NPR are totally censuring ANY
discussion of this secret deal.

Assholes.

[appalachiablue]

8. Bill Moyers was all over TPP & many prog. issues. He stayed on 4-5 yrs. longer

than planned and still has a website. Also losing Jon Stewart for the young and all. Oligarchs United.

[BeanMusical]

73. Speaking of Oligarchy:

President Jimmy Carter: The United States is an Oligarchy.

"Thom Hartmann talks with President Jimmy Carter, 39th President of the United States (1977 to 1981) / Humanitarian / Awarded Nobel Peace Prize in 2002 / Author of many books, including his latest, A Full Life."

But I guess that the TPP fans will throw President Carter under the bus too.

[Enthusiast]

123. There it is! Thank you, BeanMusical.

[99th_Monkey]

87. Oh I see

I'm SO relieved to hear that. For several months now,
I've been listening to those whiny-ass progressives,
making up shit about some 'secret' trade deal.

How the hell do they know it's not good for America?
They don't, duh .. because its SECRET. Haa!

Now I can blow-off those paranoid do-gooders
with confidence, because my Democratic POTUS told me
it's the bees-knees. Who am I to worry?

Thank you DFL_Wellstone

[99th_Monkey]

93. +100 - I can't top that

and don't even want to try, because then I might have to cry

[PearliePoo2]

5. This is a must see video.

Oh crap...losing Ed is bad..bad..bad. We are so screwed.

[NOVA_Dem]

134. Maddows and Hayes have been VERY SOFT on TPP

Ed had much higher ratings than Chris Hayes before Hayes took Ed's 8PM slot. Chris Hayes has yet to bring in the audience that Ed did at 8pm. MSNBC has a pattern of removing people who question the Corporate Dem Establishment: Olbermann, Cenk, and now Ed.

Rachel and Chris could be eviscerating the TPP with their rhetorical skill but they hardly pay any attention to the TPP.

When that political jock sniffer Chris Mathews got his Obama interview a couple of months ago he abandoned all that working class rhetoric and started advocating for the TPP. I decided I was done with MSNBC.

[appalachiablue]

6. Real bummer. We're also losing Jon Stewart & Bill Moyers although Bill still has a website.

[Faux pas]

7. Slick

Willy f-ed us again. Guess we weren't paying close enough attention, that's on us.

[ChiciB1]

11. Willy?? It's Obama Too Isn't It??

[uhnope]

34. Oh yes, put Obama into your witch hunt also.

[jwirr]

47. Exactly. But I hear he is making out okay.

[yallerdawg]

9. Those damn TPP people!

[ChiciB1]

10. So When Is Ed's Last Show??

They removed him once before, but we made a huge uproar and they gave him a new show. Is there anything we can do this time?

[George II]

17. If I remember correctly, they didn't remove him, he asked for a lighter schedule....

....temporarily because his wife was ill.

[ChiciB1]

20. No, Don't Have Time To Check It Out Right Now, BUt

I will try to a little later. I remember that time, this was before around the time they cancelled Olbermann. They did bring him back and let him have the first Tweety Show. He had one at 5:00 PM & 7:00 PM. Tweety then only had the ONE show at 7:00 EST.

I've been watching FSTV as much as possible myself, but this isn't the answer. The ANSWER is to NOT let Comcast get away with this. I doubt it's possible but it infuriates me to no end. I remember a very different America in the 60's & 70's when I was just becoming aware of real activism.

It also scares me a lot too!

[drynberg]

12. Progressive TV?

FSN (Free Speech Network) and LINK are the main ones I watch.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

21. DirecTV has "Democracy Now!".

[Duval]

28. RT has Thom Hartmann's "The Big Picture".

We have dish.

[JDPriestly]

79. How does dish work?

Can you pick your channels?

Do you pay different rates for different numbers of stations?

How does it work?

[ChiciB1]

106. I Have DISH Because Of My Husband...

While he's interested in politics and wants to know more than the so-called (R) white men, he's a Democrat so it's best he knows something. But, he likes his sports and he an all around handy man who can fix almost anything that pops up we agreed that DISH would be his luxury. I don't know exactly how each bundle works because we have every channel they offer and have been a customer since 2000 and I've been able to negotiate a good deal with them. Because of so many different ways to get information they know they have serious competition with all that's out there and for me they seem to want to keep the customers they've had for a long time.

Unfortunately, for new customers I do think it can be expensive but they do have bundles which I don't think much of when I check their website. What I pay monthly for everything they have is VERY low, but I have to complain all the time and they work with me. So since my husband has never touched a PC I don't have an alternative option of simply connecting to everything through my PC.

So, that's my experience.

[Fuddnik]

113. DirecTV carries both Link and FSTV as part of one of the basic packages.

FSTV carries Hartmann and Democracy Now several times a day, along with Ring of Fire.

Link carries Democracy Now, and a lot of other lefty programming, especially around fundraising time, when you get Chris Hedges, Richard Wolff, and a lot of other specials.

[ChiciB1]

135. DISH Does The Same, I Just Don't Know WHICH Package

it is because we have all the channels DISH offers. I was just giving my input about my account. My son has DirecTV and pays a great deal more than me and he doesn't have all their channels. BUT, I did say I have negotiated with DISH regarding what I pay since we've been a customer with ALL their channels since 2000.

If I was the only one who watched TV at my home I would probably not use either, but my husband doesn't even use a cell phone. I guess you could call it his luxury since we do save a lot of money because he's very handy and can fix almost anything that many would have to call a repair person for.

[cascadiance]

81. Al Jazeera (formerly Current TV) has some good shows too...

like Fault Lines (which FSTV used to air along with Al Jazeera before they got their own channel here).

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/faultlines/

It is also on Dish.

[dixiegrrrrl]

54. The INTERNET has Democracy Now!

We have so much progressive fare on the Internet.
Cable tv is on a death spiral...and Comcast knows it.

[Duval]

63. The Internet also has Thom Hartmann. We watch

both Goodman and Hartmann. I've never watched RT, except for Hartmann at 7PM, so I've no idea of their entire content. However, judging from comments below, I wouldn't like it.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

71. A lot of people have thought of hours before the boob tube as a fad....

Before the invention of the TV, people mingled more.

Then they moved indoors and learned to fear the outside world.

[rurallib]

59. free speech TV

It can also be accessed online at freespeech.org.

[GTurck]

13. MSNBC not on my...

favorite list anymore. Haven't watched them or any other news program/station for awhile but now it will be permanent. Comcast is a corporation that will not permit employees to speak the truth.

[JDPriestly]

82. What is the point of a news bureau if controversial news that the owners or board of directors

of the news bureau don't like is censored?

News and censorship, regardless of the reason for the censorship are opposites.

The news was censored in Eastern Europe and Russia under the Communists.

The military junta in Greece in the late 60s and early 70s censored the news.

We get censored news that is presented as honest, fair and free. It isn't.

For newspapers, I like the Guardian and foreign news sources. None of them are fully honest, but at least I get different points of view.

I think I heard that there are only about four to six major broadcasters of news today.

That's far too few for a country of our size.

The news media and the banks and huge companies like Walmart and a few others that are too dominant in their area need to be broken up so that we have a more vibrant, diverse economy and source of information.

[bucolic_frolic]

15. I cancelled all cable tv

a few years back

can't stand the bundled offerings where my money is going to
businesses I don't want to subsidize

the Internet is my news

I'm saving at least $9,000 per decade

real cash

[zeemike]

68. Me too for that same reason.

Not to mention you have hundreds of channels full of pure shit...but always Fox News.
And commercials every few minuets.

Don't miss my TV at all.

[yuiyoshida]

115. about 10 years ago I took my working

TV out to the curb and I haven't seen it since. I don't watch any TV any longer. Its all internet. I have had AT&T offer me added TV service at discount prices, and I said, No, No, No. They don't even call or write me any longer about it. They know where I stand as far as TV goes.

[George II]

16. How do we know this is true and not just cyber-gossip?

[MADem]

27. I'm not seeing any proof either? Did they cancel Rachel Maddow?

Or is she "pro-TPP?"

I smell fish....

[uhnope]

30. It's BS CT. And at 5:25 they praise Putin TV (RT) as a last bastion of freedom in the USA

So fuck these guys

[MADem]

42. Oh goodness gracious. RT? Ugh! Well, consider the source, then! Garbage in/garbage out... nt

[mmonk]

35. Could be this. But we will never know.

Media is a product of corporate rule just like the two parties and their most ardent adherents. A corporate North Korea in my mind.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2015/05/05/embarassing-e-mails-made-public-in-lawsuit-against-msnbc-host-ed-schultz/

[George II]

40. Ed is becoming MSNBC's Alan Grayson.

[mmonk]

65. Got to admit the timing of the court decision to let the lawsuit proceed

and this dismissal seems quite suspiciously less than coincidental. I love Ed Schultz but this I see as the most probable.

[KoKo]

69. My thought, too.

[mmonk]

129. It bothers me quite a bit. Ed's show is one of the few I might take the time to watch.

It's one of the only shows covering the problem in America.

[George II]

75. Earlier today I also googled him to find out the circumstances around his wife's illness....

....(cervical cancer, I believe) and his absence a few years ago. I stumbled on a story about his first wife obtaining a restraining order against him. That was disturbing.

[George II]

95. Unless it's buried in the video, the OP never mentions Alex Wagner and The Cycle.

Ever think that perhaps it's a ratings issue? Perhaps Papantonio is just pissed off because he never had a show on MSNBC.

[uhnope]

19. Any proof to this "orders" etc?

[freemay20]

23. TRUTH IN POSTING?? ANYTHING TO SUPPORT YOUR STATEMENT?

I have seen many posts and stories about this with no supporting documentation. There has been so much BS without support being written here it is getting to be Faux News II. Please show some support to your eroneous postings people.

[MADem]

44. 49 recs for a CT post from a site that praises RT? Ohhhh kayyyyy.....!

No proof, no evidence, just an assertion.

People really need to challenge a bit more. This is crap, but it doesn't stop people from cheering it on.

Sad.

[freemay20]

48. Used to be..

It used to be that the founders/moderators of DU were on top of this stuff. Once the $$$ started to enter the pic, standards went out the window. They thrive on this shit now as it shows more involvement by members and they can get more money. The DU founders have become what they initially posted against. If you also notice, they have allowed so many trolls to exist; once again creating controversy, which funnels the money to them. I have stopped calling the trolls out -- more people should be calling the founders out. So many of the original, thought provoking members no longer post or interact. Their posts were intelligent, supported with facts, and well thought out. Something the current DU crowd would not understand.

[fredamae]

24. I know this..Ed Schultz's Last

Day on M$NBC will be my Last day as a MSNBC viewer.
Fk concast
I have no further reasons to maintain higher premiums just to access/pay for pure propaganda.

Wow, just wow. The country moves Way left and corporate is dragging us far right and advertising it as IF we want that.

[Jack Rabbit]

25. This, ladies and gentlemen, is corporate fascism

If the TPP passes, it's arm yourself and march on the Bastille.

There should be no question about obeying a bad treade deal negotiated by crooked businessmen and passed by corrupt politicians. We will not obey.

[Enthusiast]

124. +100%

[freemay20]

31. BLAH BLAH BLAH.. ANOTHER POST WITHOUT SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION. EOM

[Dont call me Shirley]

32. Ed and others need to develop a huge internet following, thats where the kids are!

[jwirr]

57. Agreed. There are enough of them that it would be easy. Especially if the rest of the MSNBC Libs

go with. We have the channels we just do not have the spokes people at one site.

I am hoping that they are not making room for Keith by doing this. Can't imagine Keith being that kind of jerk.

Did read a post that said NBC is taking off all the afternoon programing on MSNBC and replacing it with a hard news show let by chuckie toad. That will guarantee it is not worth watching.

[Dont call me Shirley]

61. I quit watching msnbc a long time ago, not planning on going back.

[uhnope]

33. What a BS joke. Papatonio is a would-be Bill O'Reilly

They praise Putin TV (RT) as a last bastion of freedom in the USA at 5:25 in the vid. And they start slamming everyone that still works at MSNBC as somehow guilty, starting a little witch trial of their own it seems. The crap that comes out of these blowhards' mouths

[George II]

39. I think Ed has been the only host who has had Papantonio on his show as a guest.

[L0oniX]

43. Well certainly the networks that pumped the nation for the Iraq war are soooo much better than RT.

[uhnope]

50. lol. RT = overt Kremlin agitprop around the invasion of Ukraine

[RoccoR5955]

55. There are things on RT and AlJazerra that you don't see

on US mainstream media. You need to filter the crap out in your own mind.
Pap is no O'Lielly. What, because he's not behind Mrs. Clinton, he's a demon? I bet a lot of her supporters here are saying that, especially since they went on the record as supporting Sanders.
I got news for you. All of the REAL Liberal hosts, at least on the Internet, and the ones that I listen to frequently are backing Sanders.
Because Bernie speaks to the issues. Mrs. Clinton speaks to a few of the issues, and dodges the ones that might disturb her backers. And you can't bite the hand that feeds you, especially if you are a corporatist.

[uhnope]

89. some stuff on North Korean TV and Iran's "Press TV" you don't see

also. No thanks, I'll stick to democracies

[cui bono]

100. You don't know fuck all about Papantonio if you can say that with a straight face.

Try listening to him sometime.

[navarth]

110. 'please do not feed the trolls' nt

[ctsnowman]

125. X 1000

[uhnope]

143. troll now defined as

someone you can't outargue and who asks for proof about CT claims, apparently

[sakabatou]

38. Ugh.

[gvstn]

45. Thanks so much for this.

It really puts things in perspective in just a few minutes. Great post!

[JDPriestly]

56. There is virtually no progressive TV left now that Comcast has taken over MSNBC.

Why are Progressives paying for cable, that is giving money to cable stations, if they slant the news to favor their business interests and away from the interests of the people and of the TRUTH.

In my view, we should be getting our news from internet sources like Papantonio, Cenk, Real News, etc. (there are so many good sources out there some of the local) and loudly boycott the corporate media.

It does not good to complain about the Iraq War. It was a silent, obeisant news media that pushed Americans into a clamor for that war, and that media is still not honest with us. We still don't really get various points of view on issues. That goes for some of the left-wing media too.

We are in sorry shape as a nation when RT is one of the few alternative sources for information and when our American-owned news media refuses and is afraid to cover a story as big as the TPP from all points of view.

What kind of "democracy" is this.

As for Schultz's ratings, that is precisely the problem. When NEWS is judged based on a popularity contest and not on the honesty and truthfulness and willingness to report the unpopular as well as the popular, IT IS NOT NEWS. It is either propaganda (in this case) or simply the winner of a popularity contest.

The NEWS should at times be genuinely controversial, genuinely disliked. If it isn't it means that bad news is being hidden from us.

If the Black Lives Matter movement wants to shake up the American racist police cadre, it should start a movement in which shows that feature racists like Pat Buchanan or that don't report adequately and fairly on issues from Trayvon Martin to Sandra Bland are boycotted and loudly.

As a nation right now we are getting the news we pay for, not the news we need. We are getting the news we pay for and not the truth.

News shows should be sponsor-free and independently edited and presented.

And all voices should be heard in news opinion shows, not just voices that please the corporate owners.

Remember. If you are paying for Fox News, you are part of the problem with news in this country. Boycott any cable that carries Fox News. Turn to the internet for news..

[rurallib]

64. May I recommend folks become acquainted with free speech TV

Direct TV channel 348
Dish channel 9415
check other cable system for a channel

Can be seen online at freespeech.org

Good stuff. Totally viewer supported.

Has Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, Ring of Fire, Democracy Now and much, much more.

Thanks to a previous post for mentioning FSTV.

[chillfactor]

78. thank you for the info...

I have DISH..found Free Speech right away..Bill Press on now..

[cascadiance]

88. Here's a post I put up last week recommending people dump Comcast Cable for satellite

services like Dish or DirectTV

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027006111

On another note, I just noticed in my emails that Siriux/XM satellite radio (which was allowed to become a monopoly a couple of years back when they merged), now has a new lineup change coming the following weekend. Not sure of all the changes they have planned, but they only have one real progressive channel and a "Plus" channel that shifts the times of some of the radio shows...

https://www.siriusxm.com/siriusxmprogress
https://www.siriusxm.com/progressplus

I seem to recall them having more at one point. They have some less partisan, but perhaps left leaning shows as follows:

https://www.siriusxm.com/potus (probably a bit more of a corporatist perspective though claimed to be "neutral" perspective on politics)
https://www.siriusxm.com/urbanview (African American talk radio. Joe Madison is pretty good and has been on Thom Hartmann's show frequently)
https://www.siriusxm.com/msnbc (They still show the Ed show on MSNBC radio? Will he stay on there?)
https://www.siriusxm.com/bbc
https://www.siriusxm.com/nprnow (show these NPR channels be pushed down to the right leaning?)


The right has quite a few stations to latch on to here now unfortunately. Why are righties labeled "patriots"? In my book they are anything but!
https://www.siriusxm.com/siriusxmpatriot
https://www.siriusxm.com/patriotplus
https://www.siriusxm.com/foxnews
https://www.siriusxm.com/foxbusiness
https://www.siriusxm.com/foxnewstalk (is Alan Colmes still considered "liberal"?)
https://www.siriusxm.com/theblazeradionetwork (Glen Beck, yuch!)

Here's the note about the new lineup changes (though I'm having a hard time getting all of the specifics here). And JOY! Another Fox News channel coming as noted here!
https://www.siriusxm.com/channelupdate

If they get too slanted right, I might at some point think towards moving to a radio that grabs internet streams from WiFi and cell sources. Might be harder to get some of that on long distance drives through the countryside that satellite radio is good for. That's where you can get music streaming from Pandora or Slacker. TuneIn though is one that I think will have a lot of good progressive radio that you can't get over the air, on TV or through satellite. Check out more on them here:

http://tunein.com/radio/Progressive-Talk-c57925/

[lonestarnot]

120. Yes you may!

[stopbush]

85. Can we cool it with the conspiracy crap?

MSNBC is the most-liberal major TV channel on US television. It tries to attract a Dem/liberal audience.

If Ed Schultz can't get ratings on such a network, they're going to look for a replacement. It's not like he's in a time slot where he's up against liberal shows on the other networks. If the on-air talent around him on MSNBC have decent ratings and his ratings aren't good, it means that the basically liberal audience is tuning him out.

Look, I like Big Ed. We're the same age and everything. I relate to him. But TV is a business, and businesses do what's good for their bottom line.

Now, MSNBC canning Phil Donahue when he had the highest rated show on the network? THAT was cowardice and a sop to the powers that were who wanted anyone questioning the lies taking us into Iraq off the air, and pronto.

[cascadiance]

91. If it was just ratings, then Scarborough should have been booted a lot earlier!

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-most-influential-show-is-still-run-by-a-staunch-conservative/

When I talk about “influence,” I’m not talking about the quality of the shows on MSNBC, or their ability to persuade viewers, or even the relative size of their audiences. Joe Scarborough‘s Morning Joe is dwarfed, ratings-wise, by the likes of Rachel Maddow, Ed Schultz, and Lawrence O’Donnell, and while the quality of their shows is a subjective matter, I would argue there’s significant evidence that Maddow’s style, for example. is uniquely persuasive. Far from a knock on MSNBC’s primetime lineup, this observation is proved by the fact that the Maddows, Schultzes, and O’Donnells exist mainly to counter the heavy influence of Morning Joe.

More "even handed treatment" by MSNBC management of Morning Joe vs. Ed Schultz
http://www.politicususa.com/2014/04/09/msnbc-forbids-ed-schultz-dem-fundraiser-joe-scarborough-raise-gop-cash.html

[cui bono]

99. Why isn't Maddow speaking against the TPP? O'Donnell? Hayes?

I don't watch their shows anymore since it's not free on mssnbc.com any more, but if they are not speaking out against it then I am losing a lot of respect I had for them.

[diabeticman]

101. This should be a huge warning flag that something is wrong with this deal.

[Lil Missy]

102. Pure speculation n/t

[raouldukelives]

119. Best democracy corporate shareholders will allow.

For some it is just another day in ignorant labor against the voices of least of this world.

[Enthusiast]

122. Kicked and recommended! Is there any doubts left in your mind now?

Can't you see what is going on here?

If this post doesn't get hundreds of recommendations I fucking give up.

[annabanana]

127. boy howdy did you ever

now we know

[mother earth]

137. Says it all, doesn't it? The bastards...no matter what, with or without Schultz, they aren't going

to get away with this shit.

EVERYONE should be emailing them about this, they are so stupid to get rid of Ed.