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Pic Of The Moment: Federal Emergency Disaster Relief Efforts Are Going On Right Now In SC (Original Post) EarlG Oct 2015 OP
Lindsey now says he will "look into" why he voted no if he even did vote no. Botany Oct 2015 #1
I can't wait to hear the contorted excuses... gregcrawford Oct 2015 #9
Give Me A Break! markmyword Oct 2015 #19
Why? Because we are better than them. slumcamper Oct 2015 #25
Thank you. Ilsa Oct 2015 #28
Don't forget, too, that there are plenty of beleaguered Dems in red states. nt tblue37 Oct 2015 #41
That would be me. Thank you. trof Oct 2015 #46
So, we just lather, rinse, repeat? lolly Oct 2015 #54
I agree with that -there ought to be some guaranteed level of action for any serious emergency. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #56
Not ALL the Repukes in the Senate...much as I loathe them, Mississippi's 2 senators voted "Aye" Glorfindel Oct 2015 #48
They know how to hoover up those taxpayer dollars! Human101948 Oct 2015 #2
SC and almost all the red states are nothing more then parasites YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #8
Military bases underpants Oct 2015 #32
And their base will have NO problem with this, at all. randys1 Oct 2015 #38
You ain't lying! forest444 Oct 2015 #31
That's a pretty nice return... 3catwoman3 Oct 2015 #37
This pic should be printed on the front page of the NY Times. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #3
Yup! SoapBox Oct 2015 #6
I posted it on FB. nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #34
Because We All Know Wolf Frankula Oct 2015 #4
I don't remember....well.....anyway underpants Oct 2015 #5
Is this the same Scott who voted for it in the House but NO In the Senate underpants Oct 2015 #7
these people are disgusting Doctor_J Oct 2015 #10
Why do voters reward hypocrisy by re-electing these assholes over and over? world wide wally Oct 2015 #11
Mostly because their hatred and sedition are never punished. Doctor_J Oct 2015 #12
Maybe we should try it…. just once! world wide wally Oct 2015 #13
Having been victimized by Hurricanes Rita and Ike I can say that all you need to do to get the Dustlawyer Oct 2015 #17
All this bunch of scum are lying Liars. stage left Oct 2015 #14
Let me help you Lindsey, you voted no on the aid because the word Israel wasn't on the bill. n/t A Simple Game Oct 2015 #18
That must be it. stage left Oct 2015 #40
Hypocritical Shits. Every one. Jakes Progress Oct 2015 #15
ass hats and idiots mallen Oct 2015 #16
I think it's a combination of the heat and inbreeding. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #21
Actually the only way they would come to their senses is if South Carolina is denied relief. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #20
Karma's a bitch, ya'll. nt paparush Oct 2015 #22
I wonder how these guys voted on 9/11 first responders. Renew Deal Oct 2015 #23
are they even SLIGHTLY embarrassed? rizlaplus Oct 2015 #24
No world wide wally Oct 2015 #26
Sociopaths don't feel shame. nt tblue37 Oct 2015 #43
Blue states can't get no federal funding d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #27
swear to God.. That guy Gowdy looks like annabanana Oct 2015 #29
He's replaced Rand Paul on my looks-like-Stan-Laurel rating underpants Oct 2015 #33
...a hybrid vidalia onion. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2015 #39
nice catch! Botany Oct 2015 #59
And folks wonder why people don't vote or don't Ilsa Oct 2015 #30
Having been back in NY during Sandy, HockeyMom Oct 2015 #35
Of course they won't be begging for relief funds ,certainly such a thing is beneath them. Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2015 #36
I was living in Charleston when it snowed in '73. stage left Oct 2015 #42
Yes it was a fun time for people, I saw snow sculptures ! Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2015 #45
I worked at a garden center stage left Oct 2015 #50
I liked South Carolina a lot ,was there for 2 years ! Wash. state Desk Jet Oct 2015 #52
But, South Carolina really, really, really deserves NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #44
See you first threaten to leave the Union, and then take federal money. sinkingfeeling Oct 2015 #47
A Red Dot on a Red State means both the Rep.'s and the Senators from that State voted NO to Aid.... xocet Oct 2015 #49
The party of "NO!!!" at work. Initech Oct 2015 #51
Oops I find myself so tempted oldandhappy Oct 2015 #53
Hypocrite POS workinclasszero Oct 2015 #55
Unreal! uawchild Oct 2015 #57
Now these six right wingers are now going around and saying turbinetree Oct 2015 #58
Nobody said it, so I will. TURDS! ffr Oct 2015 #60

Botany

(70,500 posts)
1. Lindsey now says he will "look into" why he voted no if he even did vote no.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:12 PM
Oct 2015

"I'm all for helping the people in New Jersey. I don't really remember me voting that way," Graham said.

Pressed further, he said: "Anyway, I don't really recall that, but I'd be glad to look and tell you why I did vote no, if I did."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/05/politics/lindsey-graham-flooding-federal-aid/

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
9. I can't wait to hear the contorted excuses...
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:11 PM
Oct 2015

... these weasels come up with to explain why SC should get disaster relief when they voted against aid to NJ and a fellow Republican! The fact that Christie diverted federal funds and didn't even disperse a lot of the money where it was supposed to go is a discussion for another time. Maybe during his trial for corruption!

markmyword

(180 posts)
19. Give Me A Break!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:56 PM
Oct 2015

All the Republicans in the Senate voted AGAINST giving Federal aid to New Jersey! 2013
I think since they already GET(TAKE) more money than they send in to Washinton, they've already got their share of federal money!

Why is it that the Republicans always win? They vote against aid to other states with emergencies, but as soon as they have an emergency they cry for help and the Democrats buckle and give it to them!

Since they DONT believe in giving emergency relief to other states, why should they get help?
Graham said, "I don't care what it costs, we need help",. Oh really????

As Lawerence Wilkerson said, the empire is breaking up, and that we could break up into different states. The sooner the better! Let these red states become countries( third world). Its about time they stood on their own feet and didn't depend on us northerners for help!

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
25. Why? Because we are better than them.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:29 PM
Oct 2015

That's why we do not stoop to the ridiculously hypocritical levels that they do. Perhaps we still believe in the notion of the broader public welfare? Or perhaps because we are truer patriots who consider with equal empathy and a fair-minded sense of justice the plight and needs of our fellow countrymen/women regardless of their location, religion, orientation, etc.?

Just because conservatives have exposed themselves for a weakness in character it does not follow that we must do the same. To do so would make us no better than them. As it is, Americans who are paying attention have a very clear choice.

Hope that makes sense, but I certainly understand your frustration.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
28. Thank you.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:46 PM
Oct 2015

Yes, we need to be leaders in this.

And it doesn't hurt to point out their lack of compassion when the shoe was on the other foot.

lolly

(3,248 posts)
54. So, we just lather, rinse, repeat?
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 12:35 AM
Oct 2015

Does anybody doubt that the next time there is a disaster in a blue area or state--an earthquake here in CA, perhaps another hurricane in New Orleans--that they'll develop another case of amnesia and vote against it?

We need to set up a better system of federal disaster relief so it isn't dependent on the goodwill of people who have no goodwill. Otherwise, it's just a system of confiscation from liberal states to support the corrupt governments of conservative states.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
56. I agree with that -there ought to be some guaranteed level of action for any serious emergency.
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 07:18 AM
Oct 2015

That does NOT require any vote from Congress to go into effect, and does address cleanup and ar leaast a start towards rebuilding, until insurance money can be shaken loose.

Glorfindel

(9,726 posts)
48. Not ALL the Repukes in the Senate...much as I loathe them, Mississippi's 2 senators voted "Aye"
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 05:54 PM
Oct 2015

Give (small and grudging) credit where it's due.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
2. They know how to hoover up those taxpayer dollars!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:14 PM
Oct 2015

If you look only at the first measure—how much the federal government spends per person in each state compared with the amount its citizens pay in federal income taxes—other states stand out, particularly South Carolina: The Palmetto State receives $7.87 back from Washington for every $1 its citizens pay in federal tax. http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
8. SC and almost all the red states are nothing more then parasites
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:39 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Take take take is all they do and they never give anything back

It is past time for a divorce. America is in a bad and abusive marriage we both need to go our seperate ways

randys1

(16,286 posts)
38. And their base will have NO problem with this, at all.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:15 PM
Oct 2015

As long as their state gets help when they need it, the rest of us can go straight to hell as far as they are concerned.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
31. You ain't lying!
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:49 PM
Oct 2015

My father taught at Ole Miss for a few years. The place is basically a pork farm.

Just about every new building or new program, was the result of federal pork - a tradition started by longtime Appropriations Committee Chairman (and Ole Miss alum) Jamie Whitten. That in itself wouldn't be so bad, except that it would be invariably treated as a gravy train by the local good ole' boy network - which pretty much takes each new federal grant as an opportunity to dole out padded contracts and plum jobs among themselves, friends. and relatives (and reputedly, mistresses). As for actual results. Well, you can imagine.

Many of the same people were, of course, far-right Republicans who bitched and moaned against "gummint pork and welfare" every chance they got.

underpants

(182,778 posts)
5. I don't remember....well.....anyway
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:28 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe Clyburn's district should be the only one to receive aid.

BTW - I don't see how Sanford and Rice voted. They must not have been in office yet (?)

underpants

(182,778 posts)
7. Is this the same Scott who voted for it in the House but NO In the Senate
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 12:31 PM
Oct 2015

The roll call just says Scott (R, SC) and there is no hyperlink.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
10. these people are disgusting
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:14 PM
Oct 2015

and, unfortunate to say this, but we should not be sending federal aid to them

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
12. Mostly because their hatred and sedition are never punished.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:18 PM
Oct 2015

If the people of SC were left to fend for themselves right now, and were told that this is the direct result of their congressional delegation (and governor) expressing disdain for any and all federal government, things might change. But unless we stop rewarding their behavior, nothing will change.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
17. Having been victimized by Hurricanes Rita and Ike I can say that all you need to do to get the
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:48 PM
Oct 2015

S.C. Citizen's attention is to hold up relief money for awhile while a committee debates whether they should receive money in light of their past belief in boot straps and all of that!

stage left

(2,961 posts)
14. All this bunch of scum are lying Liars.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:24 PM
Oct 2015

Lindsey, especially, needs to be called out. He forgot if he voted No or not. Can he read the fucking record?

stage left

(2,961 posts)
40. That must be it.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:24 PM
Oct 2015

Trey Gowdy didn't see anything about Benghazi and figured voting yes might help Hillary in the Polls. God knows what Scott was thinking. Pity me, Howdy Gowdy(I just saw that and I love it) is my Rep in the House. I'm so ashamed.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
15. Hypocritical Shits. Every one.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:41 PM
Oct 2015

Anyone who votes for one of these assholes is worthless and has no value to the human race.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
20. Actually the only way they would come to their senses is if South Carolina is denied relief.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 01:56 PM
Oct 2015

At least temporarily.



d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
27. Blue states can't get no federal funding
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:43 PM
Oct 2015

but us Red states can get all we want! Floridian here, not some right wing crazy person!

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
29. swear to God.. That guy Gowdy looks like
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:47 PM
Oct 2015

an extra from the movie Deliverance . . .

Every time I see his puss on TV, the banjo starts plucking away in my mind..

underpants

(182,778 posts)
33. He's replaced Rand Paul on my looks-like-Stan-Laurel rating
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:53 PM
Oct 2015

And I didn't think ANYONE could replace Rand on that

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
30. And folks wonder why people don't vote or don't
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015

give a rat's ass about politics? This kind of hypocrisy is part of the reason.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
35. Having been back in NY during Sandy,
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:09 PM
Oct 2015

my sympathies go out to the people of SC who deserve all the relief efforts they can get. Same as NY and NOLA. Hear that Republicans, especially Marco Rubio of FLORIDA (where I now live), who said No to Sandy relief. I suppose he thinks Florida will never need Hurricane Relief?????

It should be given to any state regardless of whether it is your own or whether you are a Democrat or Republican Senator.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
36. Of course they won't be begging for relief funds ,certainly such a thing is beneath them.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:37 PM
Oct 2015

It's not like they are unaware of the weather changes over the years. Really now the scientists took interest in the Charleston area back in 1973 when Charleston got a 10 inch snow drop ,the last time the area had seen any snow was 100 years before that. the state knows ,but all six of those freaks don't apparently ,or maybe they do. New York got a blizzard in 77 ,that was kind of freaky too. high winds, high water ,come hell or high water in South Carolina right ?

The people are not stupid ,they know,they vote and political preferences change.








stage left

(2,961 posts)
42. I was living in Charleston when it snowed in '73.
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:30 PM
Oct 2015

I have the newspaper that came out that morning.There were people skiing across the Cooper River Bridge.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
45. Yes it was a fun time for people, I saw snow sculptures !
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:50 PM
Oct 2015

The city shut down. Schools closed ,work places closed ,roads closed.
It was unique ,unusual and there were problems but it didn't last very long, within days the snow was all gone.
Beyond 100 years prior, there were no further records of snow fall according to the information released through the media at that time.

The scientists were studying weather changes through grants during the Nixon administration before the hush hush came back around -global warming so fourth. The study was global. Still is .

There were some pretty serious rain and wind storms that year in the area too, one shut the city down again. Flooding storm damage,all that.

And all that just keeps getting worse all over the globe.

As a matter of fact, I recall talking to people about weather changes in that there is something more going on in South Carolina from a global perspective, as I said ,people are not stupid, they know. Those republican politicians ,sooner or later they,the people there will have hand enough of that, they will conclude they have no further use of them and all that ,and than it will become time for the political climate to change,or change back !

It my be a little slow in motion but when happens ,it will happen fast !

stage left

(2,961 posts)
50. I worked at a garden center
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:46 PM
Oct 2015

and I garden. Plants that used to not make it through the winter in upstate South Carolina, now do. Seeing that over years, you realize that something is changing.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
52. I liked South Carolina a lot ,was there for 2 years !
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:04 PM
Oct 2015

And I visited North Calolina ,Georgia and Virginia after I got my drivers license and my first car ! Good times,good people !

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
44. But, South Carolina really, really, really deserves
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 04:37 PM
Oct 2015

federal aid. To say otherwise is playing politics and being divisive. They only opposed Sandy relief because God told them to and because it was full of free pork for blue states. It wasn't partisan at all.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
49. A Red Dot on a Red State means both the Rep.'s and the Senators from that State voted NO to Aid....
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 06:22 PM
Oct 2015

for Superstorm Sandy. Please note the two changes mentioned after the map - changes regarding the states of Washington and Maine.

On the Willingness to Extend Aid and on Prioritizing the Future Distribution of Disaster Aid....

This map is derived from the most recent House and Senate votes to appropriate aid for the victims of Superstorm Sandy. The principal color of the state indicates the nature of that state's US Senate vote - green marks two yea's; yellow marks a split vote; and red marks two nay's. Each state's black dot has a color on it to indicate the nature of that state's US House vote - green notes that more than 2/3 of that state's House delegation voted yea; yellow notes that more than 1/3 (but not more than 2/3) of that state's House delegation voted yea; and red indicates that 1/3 or less of that state's House delegation voted yea.

Some states' delegations - namely, Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming and Idaho - voted en bloc against extending disaster aid.



Of all the gulf states, Mississippi seems to have been the most appreciative of past aid. Good on Mississippi.

Note these changes: Murray (D-WA), Not Voting (WA to yellow) and King (I-ME), Not Voting (Maine to yellow).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101795261


oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
53. Oops I find myself so tempted
Tue Oct 6, 2015, 09:24 PM
Oct 2015

to say, in the tiniest type of course, 'takers'!!

I hope someone sent this graphic to each of their offices.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
57. Unreal!
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 09:17 AM
Oct 2015

I firmly believe we are all in this together, to aid each other in hard times, especially disasters like super storm Sandy or these floods in SC this week. So I don't begrudge helping these hypocrites along with the decent people in their states, but I do shake my head at the audacity of these politicians to ask for aid now with a straight face. Lindsey Graham sys he "doesn't remember" if he voted against disaster aid for the Northeast, but he did -- twice.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
58. Now these six right wingers are now going around and saying
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 10:29 AM
Oct 2015

WHOA is ME and my State-------------------sorry, but they should be asked about this every time they go on a show, radio, newspaper-------------------they did not for once think about the damage to New York, New Jersey ,or any other eastern seaboard state in the Mid-Atlantic-------------------it was pull yourself up by the boot straps and tough it out, because we don't want to give you "your" money to help you out to recover or make your life better---------------------sorry,that's doesn't hold water or anything for that matter.
How does it feel to have your foot stuck in your proverbial mouth.

The folks down there need help lots of it, and I think "we" as a society should help.

But I also think "we" has a country deserve an apology from these grand standing politicians



Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016


ffr

(22,669 posts)
60. Nobody said it, so I will. TURDS!
Wed Oct 7, 2015, 11:54 AM
Oct 2015

Does this answer any excuse not to vote in elections?

Register to vote
Get all your family and friends registered to vote
Come the election of 2016, vote early
AND FOR GOODNESS SAKE, DON'T VOTE FOR ANY REPUBLIS AT ANY LEVEL!!

Restore The People's House.

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