Clinton Dodges On Whether She Accused Bernie Sanders Of Sexism

[portlander23]

She seems determined to keep this up.



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Hillary Clinton Falsely Calls Bernie Sanders a Sexist

[daleanime]

1. You have to respect her ability....

to avoid saying either yes or no.

[marym625]

4. "from what I have seen of the TPP..."

And people eat it up

[azmom]

9. I now respect nothing about this

candidate. She is shameless.

[840high]

16. She is shameless.

[lewebley3]

33. I totally respect Hillary she is a fighter

[Plucketeer]

81. I agree!

Her corporate backers LOVE her fighting ways!

[Bubzer]

14. In this case, a dodge is an admission, or a willingness to let the lie be perpetuated.

Either way, she's guilty of refusing to reject it, which makes her complicit.

[lewebley3]

26. HIllary doesn't want to get into useless discussion about nothing

If Hillary is going to attack someone or things: she should at attack
the GOP, they are ones attacking planned parenthood.

[daleanime]

29. If it was nothing....

why did she start it?

[lewebley3]

30. Hillary didn't start it: The Sanders supporters are the orgin's of this attack:

[daleanime]

34. So Bernie's supporters are calling Bernie Sexist?

Why would they do that?

[lewebley3]

92. Looking for excuse to attack Hillary: Sanders supporter want to go negative

[daleanime]

94. So this question is out of bounds with you.....

is there any question that you would allow us to ask her?

[daleanime]

110. I'll have to take that as none.....

have to say that's not very useful. Plus the candidate comes across as having to hide from questions, oh well, good luck with that. Hope you had a great day.

[AgingAmerican]

51. That makes no sense

So we started accusing our candidate of sexism? lol

Hillary accused sexism. Her supporters ran with it. It started blowing up in their faces. They start backpedaling, saying Sanders supporters are the ones who ran with it. Hilarity ensues!

[lewebley3]

90. You looking for an excuse to go negative on Hillary:

Sanders is sinking, so are willfully are seeing things wrong
in Hillary remarks. Hillary is very carefully to stay positive,
its Sanders supporters looking for an opening to after Hillary.

[AgingAmerican]

95. Her record is a treasure trove

No need for Clintonesque drama.

And now that she has decided to start in with the personal attacks, I will just kick back and laugh at the 'cycle' repeating itself ad nauseum.

1. Hillary makes baseless insinuation
2. Hillary's supporters run with it
3. Baseless insinuation is quickly shot down, and blows up in her/supporters faces
4. Hillary and her supporters start furiously backpedaling (as you are doing in this OP)
5. Hilarity ensues!

This is the 'cycle' we keep seeing

[passiveporcupine]

96. That's not true

Hillary said what she said...we didn't say it. The fact that her supporters refuse to accept that what she said was insinuating that Sander's said something sexist, aimed at her, is beyond the pale. But that is what I've learned to expect from you now.

There was no way what Sanders said could be construed as "about Hillary or women" unless you were deliberately looking for ways to use it against him.

There is no way what Hillary said could be construed as anything but a nasty innuendo against Sanders, unless you are deliberately looking for ways to protect her from backlash from insinuating something nasty about Sanders. She won't even deny it. She just dodges it and leaves it hanging out there. And as was mentioned above, if you don't deny it, if you have to go to such extremes to dodge it, you are essentially admitting it is the truth.

[marym625]

2. Typical

[randys1]

3. BASH BASH BASH Hillary, BASH BASH BASH

I have criticized Hillary for unnecessarily accusing Bernie, but I am a sincere Democrat who criticizes both candidates, unlike some here who do nothing but BASH Hillary

[daleanime]

6. So you're saying that she did answer the question?

[randys1]

12. You know what I am saying

[daleanime]

13. That she didn't.....

but for some reason you don't want to say so?

[randys1]

15. This has NOTHING to do with anything anybody said, it has to do with the agenda

here at DU by an organized group to discredit Hillary Clinton.

[daleanime]

17. So wanting her to actually answer questions....

is an "organized" attempt to discredit her.......right. You have a great day.

[99th_Monkey]

21. +10 nt

[840high]

18. She finds ways to discredit herself.

[99th_Monkey]

23. Exactly! Yet if this obvious fact gets pointed out, we're "unfairly bashing" poor Hillary. ugh. nt

[appal_jack]

22. yeah, the 'organized group' is called Democratic voters...

Why the attempt to root-out some shadowy group with an undefined but surely nefarious agenda? This is (the very beginning) of Primary season. Candidates are supposed to answer questions. Instead, we get something like this:

randys1 McCarthy: "Are you now or have you ever been a dirty, socialist-loving Hillary hater?"

reasonable Democrats: "At long last, have you no sense of decency sir?"

randys1: "BASHBASHBASH"

C'mon dude, loosen up a little and let voters ask some questions...

-app

[AgingAmerican]

53. Her and her supporters decided to run with this one

So when Sanders supporters push back, it's their fault?

[erronis]

10. I'm sure you're being witty, but this sure sounded like BOMB, BOMB, BOMB IRAN.

Why is this particularly BASHing? Questioning and expecting a reasonable answer should be the normal.

[FloridaBlues]

8. This is a bunch of nothing attack

If you can't handle a campaign and a "shouting" comment than its going to be a long campaign for sanders and company

[tishaLA]

11. It's good to see her talk about the issue instead of playing into the corporate media game of

asking her to criticize, or at least characterize, another candidate. I'd rather have this discussion about issues rather than personalities

[daleanime]

19. No, this is how you deal with these kind of questions.....

then you go on to the other issues.

[tishaLA]

32. Yes, yelling is one way. Secretary Clinton had another.

both work.

[daleanime]

35. You've learned well young padawan.....

that Sexist Sanders never had a chance.

You will, of course, mock me for this, but I had so much more respect for Hillary at the beginning of the campaign.

[tishaLA]

40. I'm an agnostic on the primaries, so don't try to act as though I''m a Clinton supporter

In fact, of the three remaining candidates, she's probably my least favorite. So there's no mocking at all; I just wish you were as gracious as you make assumptions about me and my positions.

[daleanime]

49. No assumptions about you or your positions intended.....

now the type of politician that you take lessons from, that I kind of do imply. Sorry about that. Have a lovely day.

[99th_Monkey]

20. Smirking Hillary smears Sandres, Hillary supporters gleefully run with it, sling more groundless slime

Hillary gets called on it by media.

Smug Hillary takes nothing back, coyly dodges & weaves,
sees no need to apologize.

And as a Bernie supporter, I'm supposed to be OK with this shit?


BERNIE, BECAUSE FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!

[Nitram]

28. Awww, Monkey, did she get your goat? Push your buttons?

Damn right Clinton sees no need to apologize or explain herself to reporters only interested in perceived slights. As she so clearly said, she stands by what she said. Period. Now let's get back to policy.

[99th_Monkey]

36. Yes, Hillary "stands by" her disgraceful groundless attack on Bernie alright,

while coyly pretending to be "discussing policy".

I must admit she's good at what she does, i.e. unfairly attacking, while pretending to be
discussing issues, then covering her tracks afterward. Yep, no doubt she's so good at it
because she had so much practice in 2008, and we both know how well that went for her,
in the end.


FYI - I have no goats to be gotten, ok?

[Nitram]

38. Disgraceful, groundless ATTACK!

Pretty hysterical response to a pretty mild event. Sounds like your got is got.

[portlander23]

39. You're right

It's all fun and games until a Clinton staffer leaks a photo of you in Kenya.



But hey, keep up the slurs. It worked last time.

[Nitram]

43. So Clinton's reactiion to Sander's describing her gun-control case was made by shouting was...

...equivalent to that photo? Take a deep breath and calm down.

"As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing."

[portlander23]

45. Mrs. Clinton has a history of character attacks and innuendo

[Nitram]

50. We are discussing a particular incident here.

No need to muddy the waters. If you can't support your case based on the facts in this case then I'll take it you admit you are wrong.

[portlander23]

54. If you want to call historical context muddying the waters you're welcome to it

But let's take the current slur. Mrs. Clinton invented it, and she's sticking with it. I assume she and her advisors think it's a good tactic. I disagree.

[Nitram]

55. And what, pray tell, was the heinous "slur"?

She never used the word "sexist" that Bernistas are throwing around so freely.

[portlander23]

58. Yep :D

Troll cafeteria is closed

[Nitram]

61. Much ado about nothing.

Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

[99th_Monkey]

64. Pointing out Hillary's nastiness has nothing to do with my goat.

... unless it's your goat that's got, since you obviously can't just admit to the truth in
what she's doing, even when it's pointed out to you.

[Nitram]

68. I'd suggest , Monk, that you are having difficulty coming to terms with the fact...

...that Clinton mildly rebuked Sanders for what was at least a rather rude response to her statement in the debate. But it is clear you're determined to see mountains where there are molehills, and villains where there are just politicians who are trying to do some good.

CLINTON: No, not at all. I think that we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. This has gone on too long and it's time the entire country stood up against the NRA. The majority of our country supports background checks, and even the majority of gun owners do.

COOPER: Senator Sanders, you have to give a response.

SANDERS: As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing.

[99th_Monkey]

82. Yes, Hillary & Bernie both have positions on guns, and do they differ somewhat

But during the debate, it was Sanders (not Hillary) who laid out specifics looking forward
to address gun violence:
1) ending gun show loop-hole,
2) expanding mandatory instant back-ground check requirements,
3) closing straw-man purchasing loop-hole,
4) ready access to mental health treatment for violence-prone gun-nuts.

All Hillary could think to say, was to spout applause-baiting rhetoric and then attack
Sanders on two of his votes in the Senate.

It's all right here, in case your memory is fuzzy on this.

Then after the debate, Clinton cherry-picked the "shouting" quote to again attack Bernie
insinuating that he is somehow "sexist" for using a term he has used repeatedly in the same
context (guns) in calling for finding a consensus on ways to end gun violence.

But you know all this already, you just (understandably as a Hillary supporter) would rather
not acknowledge it publicly. That's fine.

I think this is where we agree to disagree, since it's obvious neither of us is going to change the
other's mind on this. So please do have a nice day.

[Nitram]

87. Thanks.

You, too.

[magical thyme]

24. Dear Hillary, why did you assume Bernie was talking about you?

When he commented about people "shouting" about guns, he didn't mention your name. He didn't look at you. He spoke in general about "we."

I assumed he was talking about some people shouting that "they're taking away our guns!" and other people shouting that, "we need to ban guns!"

It never occurred to me that he was talking about you, Hillary. What makes you think he was?

[Nitram]

63. He mentioned her specifically by name after her statement about the need for gun control.

CLINTON: I think that we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. This has gone on too long and it's time the entire country stood up against the NRA. The majority of our country supports background checks, and even the majority of gun owners do.

Senator Sanders did vote five times against the Brady bill. Since it was passed, more than 2 million prohibited purchases have been prevented. He also did vote, as he said, for this immunity provision. I voted against it. I was in the Senate at the same time. It wasn't that complicated to me. It was pretty straightforward to me that he was going to give immunity to the only industry in America. Everybody else has to be accountable, but not the gun manufacturers. And we need to stand up and say: Enough of that. We're not going to let it continue.

COOPER: Senator Sanders, you have to give a response.

SANDERS: As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing.

[magical thyme]

72. well I don't see where he said "all YOUR shouting in the world..."

and I might add he has referred to the "shouting" about gun control many, many times before the debate.

Since I've actually listened to him before, and paid attention, I guess I knew immediately that it was his normal response.

Maybe Hillary needs to get out of her bubble, instead of pretending her competition doesn't exist until she's standing right next to them. Then she'll 1. know what they're talking about, and 2. discover that it's not all about her...shrug:

[Nitram]

74. Maybe Sander's needs to improve his communication skills.

Responding to Clinton's rationale for gun control by saying that shouting won't work is just plain rude. she didn't suggest shouting would work. His statement was in answer to hers.

[thesquanderer]

101. The fact that he was responding to her in the debate...

...doesn't mean he was applying the word "shouting" to her answer.

from
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/10/hillary_clinton_is_smearing_bernie_sanders_as_a_sexist_it_s_an_insult_to.html (including links)

Let’s be clear: This isn’t what happened. During the debate exchange, Sanders answered O’Malley with the same point about “raising our voices.” Sanders has been giving this answer for years. He did it in July, after an O’Malley super PAC ad attacked him (“We have been yelling and screaming at each other about guns for decades,” said Sanders). He did it again in August, after a male surrogate for Clinton attacked him (“I can get beyond the noise and all of these arguments and people shouting at each other”). He did it again in October, after the mass shooting in Roseburg, Oregon (“People on both sides of this issue cannot simply continue shouting at each other”). Sanders gives this answer to everyone.

His point is simply that people on both sides of the gun issues have been shouting for years instead of working to find common ground.

[Nitram]

106. Squander, are you saying that Clinton's discussion of the need for

gun control was the equivalent of shouting? Over-emotional or too aggressive?

[thesquanderer]

107. No, I'm not saying that. (n/t)

[Nitram]

108. Then why did Sander's respond to Clinton's points by discussing shouting?

Shouldn't he have addressed whether he agreed or disagreed with her points and policies instead? Sounds disingenuous to me to suggest he wasn't dismissing her point of view out of hand by terming it 'shouting'.

CLINTON: I think that we have to look at the fact that we lose 90 people a day from gun violence. This has gone on too long and it's time the entire country stood up against the NRA. The majority of our country supports background checks, and even the majority of gun owners do.

Senator Sanders did vote five times against the Brady bill. Since it was passed, more than 2 million prohibited purchases have been prevented. He also did vote, as he said, for this immunity provision. I voted against it. I was in the Senate at the same time. It wasn't that complicated to me. It was pretty straightforward to me that he was going to give immunity to the only industry in America. Everybody else has to be accountable, but not the gun manufacturers. And we need to stand up and say: Enough of that. We're not going to let it continue.

COOPER: Senator Sanders, you have to give a response.

SANDERS: As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want

[thesquanderer]

109. That's a different question

You asked whether *I* thought that Clinton's discussion of the need for gun control was the equivalent of shouting, and now you're asking about what *Sanders* thought, not even of the need for gun control, but of that particular Clinton statement, so these are two completely different questions.

That Clinton statement is not about the need for gun control in general, it is specifically about background checks and manufacturer liability.

Sanders is obviously not against gun control of any kind... he has voted in favor of various sorts of gun control numerous times, which is why the highest grade he has ever gotten from the NRA is a D-.

I can't be sure what Sanders thought about the particular answer Clinton had just given. But what I can say is that the "shouting" reference is part of his stock answer on the subject, as I pointed out in reply #101.

Was he intending to include her comments--and O'Malley's comments, as they yielded a nearly identical response--as an example of the kind "shouting" he was talking about (which can be seen figuratively as speaking without listening, more interested in making points rather than in trying to solve the problem)? I can't be sure... but either way, it's not sexist.

(I talked about this more in post #203 at http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251742444 )

[Nitram]

111. Why did Sander's respond to clinton with "a stock answer" that contained no information?

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Sander's is insulting all gun control advocates by suggesting everybody but him is "shouting" instead of offering solutions. That sounds rather dishonest to me.

[thesquanderer]

112. I didn't say anyone had to like his answer, I just said it wasn't sexist. (n/t)

[Nitram]

113. I'm beginning to think the "sexist" meme is a cover for the lack of substance in Sander's answer.

In fact, it was a "stock" non-answer that implied he's the only rational voice in the gun control debate.

[Nitram]

25. I know Bernistas aren't very good with nuance.

Clinton did not dodge the question. She answered if very clearly. She said she stands by what she said and that's that. She's not going to repeat herself. She's not going to belabor the issue. I guess Bernistas think Clinton should be shouting over and over while she's jumping up[ and down on the couch, "Yes, I think he's a damn sexist." That's not her style. That's ya'lls style. Live with it.

[MrMickeysMom]

114. You know much...

... for not knowing.

However, if that is what you take away from this exchange, far be it from me to try to change your mind.

You, however, do not know mine, so I wouldn't assume what I'm good or bad with.

[raindaddy]

27. Right, Bernie used the word "shouting" specifically with Hillary Clinton in mind..

She's actually trying to suggest that Sander's was trying to silence or at least minimize her position on guns because she's a woman...

Make me wonder if Karl Rove isn't secretly on her payroll.... I know this kind of gutter politics works with Republican voters, I hope Dems are smart enough to see through this BS....

[Nitram]

31. Raindad, Bernie addressed the "shouting" statement directly to Clinton.

"As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing."

And I love the way you manage to suggest that Clinton is a Karl Rove. Now that's classy. Way better than implying that someone is sexist.

[portlander23]

37. Sure

Assuming this is a serious point,

#1 Mr. Sanders was referring to the tone of the debate on guns, not Mrs. Clinton's behavior, and we all know that.

#2 Mr. Sanders in no way said or implied anything about gender.

This is not the first slur by the Clinton campaign, and it indicates that the negative character attacks will continue.

That's fine. They continue to blow up in her face.

[Nitram]

41. But didn't you just write that Sanders wasn't saying it with Clinton in mind? When in fact he was?

Was Clinton "shouting" in the sense that hers was an emotional and partisan observation on the need for gun control? Or did she actually make a calm, fact-based case for the the need for gun control? Was Sanders not slurring Clinton to imply that she was "shouting" rather than providing a reasonable case? I might remind you that women have often been the target of sexist charges that they are too emotional rather than calmly logical. I think you guys are going way overboard in this reaction to Clinton's statement. And she declined to repeat it and fuel the fire further when prodded by the reporter. I'd suggest just letting it go and concentrating on policy.

[portlander23]

44. He did not say it with Mrs. Clinton in mind

That's the intellectually dishonest crux of your argument.

He was referring to the tone of both sides of the gun control debate, which is why, in the same quote, he went on to describe the consensus that he believes exists on both sides around certain policies.

But, please, keep the slur going.

[Nitram]

47. Wrong. He addressed it directly to Clinton.

I know love is blind, but this is getting ridiculous.

[portlander23]

48. Hey, I'm not the person defending the slur

But seriously, keep it up. Bernie raised over a million dollars the last time the Clinton campaign threw out a slur. And it will do wonders for Mrs. Clinton's reputation for honesty.

[Nitram]

52. Please remind me what Clinton's slur was?

She never used the word sexist. Whereas Saunders addressed his statement about shouting directly at Clinton.

As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing.

[portlander23]

56. Really? :D

OK, done feeding the troll

[Nitram]

59. That's an easy out! nt

[Marty McGraw]

80. how very...

..Goebbelesque

[Nitram]

83. You and Carson fall back so easily on the Nazi analogies.

You should be ashamed, sir. My defense of Clinton is in no way similar to Goebbel's Nazi propaganda. I am loath to minimize the evils of the Third Reich.

[raindaddy]

42. He was making a statement about the tone of the gun control debate in general...

Hillary trying to not only make his comment personal, but then taking it to the level of accusing Sander's of being sexist is morally reprehensible. Straight out of Karl Rove's playbook...

I now see how you were able to misconstrue Sander's statement. You had the same problem comprehending mine as well.
Where do you see the words, Hillary "is" a Karl Rove in my post? I was suggesting he was being paid as a political consultant...
How that gets turned into saying Hillary is a Karl Rove... only you Hillary and Karl understand that one.

[Nitram]

46. It was very personal. Implicitly and literally personal. Can't you seee that?

As a senator from a rural state, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, that all the shouting in the world is not going to do what I would hope all of us want, and that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end this horrible violence that we are seeing.

[raindaddy]

57. All the shouting in the world.. Not your shouting...

If it were a personal conversation, it would be at the very least ambiguous enough for a clarification. "we're you referring to me personally or were you making a general statement? That's what people with good intentions do...

And here's exactly what I don't like about Hillary Clinton, she not only willing to take a statement that at best was ambiguous into the public arena without any clarification but then turn it into a inference that Sander's is a sexist.

If Hillary Clinton had any interest in Bernie Sanders intentions she would've paused a few minutes to ponder about his moving the debate away from focusing on Hillary's e-mail scandal and back to a discussion about the facts... Instead she chose to wallow in the gutter...

[Nitram]

60. I just think ya'll are making a mountain out of a molehill.

But that's just me.

[raindaddy]

65. Suggesting someone is a sexist in an important election that will result in who leads this country..

for the next four years isn't a molehill... It does expose the character of Hillary Rodham Clinton ...

[Nitram]

67. Accusing Clinton of "shouting"...

...after when gave a calm rational defense of the need for gun control exposes the character of Bernie Sanders. Or not. Methinks Bernista's protest a bit too much about the sexism bit. Perhaps there's something there?

[raindaddy]

70. Using that kind of logic we could call Hillary a fraud, a liar, a corporatist, self serving, etc

and as soon as anyone decides to defend her we can then assume there's something there...

[Nitram]

71. Sorry, I was trying to be funny.

I make small yoke.

[raindaddy]

76. I think it's called sarcasm!!!

Anyway have a good rest of your day....

[Nitram]

77. Indeed.

Right back atcha.

[riversedge]

62. Thank you so much.

[pinebox]

66. She dodged that as good as she dodges sniper fire!

Oops.

[Nitram]

69. Or as good as Sanders supports gun manufacturers.

Oops.

[pinebox]

73. Or Hillary sending people to war with guns

And it's awesome to hold gun manufacturers liable for idiots pulling the trigger. Next up, let's sue Budweiser over drunken driver deaths.

Oops.

[Nitram]

75. Pinebox, perhaps you don't realize that it is the gun manufacturers who fund the NRA.

The membership dues are trivial in that regard. And it is the NRA that lobbies and funds campaigns against gun control of ANY kind. Hobbling law enforcement so records can't be maintained or shared, etc. etc.

[pinebox]

78. Perhaps you don't relaize

what I'm saying. I myself am a gun owner. Many of us are. Holding manufacturers responsible for a moron who went ape is a deflection and a scapegoat. But let's hold them accountable for someone else. As I said, Budweiser.
Now if a manufacturer knowingly sell a gun that's faulty and injures someone, yes then I can see it. Otherwise, nope.
The truth is, Bernie is right on this issue IMHO. What applies to urban cities doesn't always work in rural America. I have bears & mountain lions here where I live, you're damn right I'm carrying.

[Nitram]

85. I too am a gun owner.

We just disagree on whether gun manufacturers share some blame.

[pinebox]

93. indeed

[George II]

79. How can someone "dodge" on something she never did in the first place?

Funny thing, people are running around here posting all over the place saying "Clinton accused Sanders of sexism" yet not ONE can post the actual words used in that accusation.

So, one more time - WHAT specifically did she say explicitly?*

*i.e., not some third-hand interpretation or parsing of the words.

Thank you in advance!

[Nitram]

88. I pointed that out, too, George.

And was compared to Goebbels. That's the level of the discourse.

[thesquanderer]

98. see post #97 (n/t)

[thesquanderer]

97. Here's what she said

There were a few, but one was,

“I’ve been told to stop, and I quote, ‘shouting’ about gun violence. Well, first of all, I’m not shouting. It’s just [that] when women talk, some people think we’re shouting.”

Who was she quoting? (And calling sexist, i.e. the kind of person who thinks that when women speak strongly about something, it's shouting.)

Okay, let's assume she did not mean Bernie Sanders.

That brings us to the videos in this OP. You can hear the question asked, that she seems to have accused BS of a sexist remark. She could have replied, "no, I didn't mean that at all." But no, she calmly accepts the premise (no reaction of, "oh no, that's wrong&quot , and then avoids a direct answer to the question, never denying that she accused him of this, and instead pivots to talking about her position on guns.

So yes, she did it; and when directly asked about it, she does not dispute it, either.

[George II]

99. That's "sexist"????? You guys are really reading a lot into these things. And these appear...

....to be acts of desperation on the part of the Sanders campaign and his supporters.

[thesquanderer]

100. If HRC didn't mean to imply that BS had said something sexist...

...why, in these interviews in the OP, didn't she just say, "oh no, that's not what I meant"?

[George II]

102. I don't know, ask her. The fact is she answered the way SHE wanted, not the way others wanted.

[Faux pas]

84. She's what my Grampa

used to call a squeezlebaum.

[Nitram]

86. I'm not familiar with the term, Faux.

Is it related to vomit?

[Faux pas]

91. lol no

it means shifty, sneaky, sleazy, untrustworthy, etc etc etc.

[INdemo]

89. Take a look at how much Emily's list has contributed to Hillary

What the F*^k is the Emily's official talking about
Of course Bernie Sanders was not being sexist......If that is all they got then Hillary is in some deep shit.

EMILY's List
$187,927


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As I said before Hillary is running a typical Republican Style campaign

[Thinkingabout]

103. The interviewer said Clinton implied Sanders was sexists, Hillary never said this.

Sanders gave a statement giving the name Secretary Clinton about shouting about gun issues, the next day she said she did not think she was shouting and was going to continue to talk about gun violence. Sanders said in another interview there was inappropriate statements made, I was ready to move on but it does not stop here on DU, Sanders owns his statements, he took ownership by saying there was inappropriate statements, since it is not dropped I am beginning to believe some if his supporters wants him to be remembered as a sexists. Perhaps it would be better to put this to sleep as Sanders has indicated but if not the blame for these continued furthering of sexists will be owned by those who continue this conversation.

[SoapBox]

104. Trust....

That is it for me.

And I don't trust her to run this country nor run a clean campaign based on issues.

No more Hillary.

[Nitram]

105. I don't think I can trust a guy who accuses everybody else in his party of shouting...

...every time they discuss the need for gun control. Like he's the only reasonable voice. Like he's the only one who really understands the issue.