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kpete

(71,965 posts)
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:04 AM Oct 2015

CNN called Fiorina a liar to her face and it was magnificent.



When Camerota asked if there’s new data to back that up, and if Fiorina should use the new data, the candidate responded with, “absolutely not,” then proceeded to blame the media for asking questions about what she says.

The nerve, really, for the media to hold candidates accountable for what they say. How dare they?

What’s most interesting about all of this is this little thing called facts, and those facts reveal that more women were working by the end of President Obama’s first term than when he came in with the worst recession since the Great Depression. According to CNN, who grabbed numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (are they also part of the evil liberal media?):

“In January 2009, there were 66.5 million American women working in non-farm jobs, compared to January 2013 when there were 66.9 million. That’s an increase of over 400,000 working females in Obama’s first term.”

Sure looks as though the Obama administration that Fiorina is saying was so bad for women, was actually pretty damn good.

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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/29/cnn-host-puts-carly-fiorina-on-blast-after-repeated-lies-during-the-debate-video/
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CNN called Fiorina a liar to her face and it was magnificent. (Original Post) kpete Oct 2015 OP
Gosh... 2naSalit Oct 2015 #1
You're right. It is kinda wonky. dmr Oct 2015 #35
I know. 2naSalit Oct 2015 #37
So as I understand it, cilla4progress Oct 2015 #2
Much as it did last time nxylas Oct 2015 #28
Maybe that's why it seems cilla4progress Oct 2015 #32
"I can't believe we are honestly having this converstation, really" Geronimoe Oct 2015 #3
Not right lark Oct 2015 #31
she has like negative charisma, my goodness Fast Walker 52 Oct 2015 #4
I think she has charisma to authoritarian types. To normal people, she's an asshole. valerief Oct 2015 #5
Fiorina is no longer a member of the club, too bad n/t mrdmk Oct 2015 #7
thanks for the piece Fast Walker 52 Oct 2015 #10
"On the wrong-o-meter, this gets a 10 out of 10." Jim__ Oct 2015 #6
That's one evil woman bigdarryl Oct 2015 #8
She'd make a great Bond villain. nt TeamPooka Oct 2015 #11
Fiorina has a coat made out of Cruella DaVille. nt. Thor_MN Oct 2015 #12
Thread win. CrispyQ Oct 2015 #17
Not a coat... blackspade Oct 2015 #34
She is soooo unlikable... Marie Marie Oct 2015 #25
Boy do I wish she was the nominee so Hillary could wipe the floor with her bigdarryl Oct 2015 #9
When you look up the word yuiyoshida Oct 2015 #13
It speaks volumes that this person is allowed to speak mountain grammy Oct 2015 #14
Nope, just make her wear a clown nose when she speaks. longship Oct 2015 #24
Trump Was Right: You Really Do Get Headache After Listening To Her For Ten Minutes. NonMetro Oct 2015 #15
Keep talking, Carly perdita9 Oct 2015 #16
She wouldn't be getting the attention she is Plucketeer Oct 2015 #18
You can tell she KNOWS that she's lying by how much she's blinking. Matariki Oct 2015 #19
Yep. Aldo Leopold Oct 2015 #27
As far as Republican Leaders are concerned Punx Oct 2015 #20
Kind of hard to have credibility d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #21
She was waiting for that question. Gotta ask them stuff they aren't expecting. n/t Peregrine Took Oct 2015 #22
. libodem Oct 2015 #23
GOPers just spout whtvr is "supposed" to be the case... Beartracks Oct 2015 #26
Subject was misleading. 40RatRod Oct 2015 #29
She just pulls those numbers out of her ass tularetom Oct 2015 #30
That wasn't very "magnificent." She just sort of sheepishly accused her of using inaccurate data a Chakab Oct 2015 #33
her frozen face distracts me Skittles Oct 2015 #36

2naSalit

(86,337 posts)
1. Gosh...
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:25 AM
Oct 2015

those pesky darn facts always seem to get in the way of really good flame bait.



One thing I noticed in that clip, since I do a great job of ever watching Fiorina, is that her right eye gets all squinty when she's agitated.

dmr

(28,344 posts)
35. You're right. It is kinda wonky.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 04:01 PM
Oct 2015

I watched it a second time after reading your post. I wonder if it's agitation or a reaction to passing misinformation - or both.

2naSalit

(86,337 posts)
37. I know.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 08:47 PM
Oct 2015

I had a typo in my previous comment, I meant that I never watch her. Still, I have found that people who lie and know it often have nervous twitches that give them away when someone calls them out on the lie, that's what I suspect is going on here. Her agitation is noticeable.

cilla4progress

(24,718 posts)
2. So as I understand it,
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:28 AM
Oct 2015

here is the Republican Presidential candidates' game plan going forward: attack the media, calling every news source except Fox and right-wing radio types, liars; continue to lie; and hope that they can bring along enough low-information voters to prevail.

Hmmm. Wonder if it will work?

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
3. "I can't believe we are honestly having this converstation, really"
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:29 AM
Oct 2015

Last edited Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:15 PM - Edit history (2)

Well, honestly Carly you are a liar.

The stat she doesn't seem aware of is her own.... tanking in the polls for being a liar.

The unemployment number is from Obama's first 3 months in office. His having inherited Bush and Bill Clinton's economic world melt down from banksters. The ticking time bomb of fraud and deregulation.

lark

(23,065 posts)
31. Not right
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 02:09 PM
Oct 2015

The economy was great under Clinton, it's when GW cut taxes and started 2 wars without paying for them that things started going south. Oh yeah, it was also the regulators under GW failing to do their jobs that caused the Wall St. crash.

Think I detect a bit of bias.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
4. she has like negative charisma, my goodness
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:31 AM
Oct 2015

and what is this line she kept repeating about the WAPO saying she wasn't a secretary?

Jim__

(14,063 posts)
6. "On the wrong-o-meter, this gets a 10 out of 10."
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:46 AM
Oct 2015

From CNN Money:

Here are the official government numbers:

January 2009: There were 66.5 million American women working in non-farm jobs.

January 2013: There were 66.9 million.

That's an increase of over 400,000 working females in Obama's first term.

more ...

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
25. She is soooo unlikable...
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:49 PM
Oct 2015

God this woman is awful. Can she be any more condescending when she speaks? She has all the warmth of a steel file cabinet.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
13. When you look up the word
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:53 PM
Oct 2015
deplorable in the dictionary, her face is shown as an example. Republicans don't even hide the stupid any longer.

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
14. It speaks volumes that this person is allowed to speak
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 12:54 PM
Oct 2015

as if she's saying something that matters. She should be given no platform at all. She should be on a street corner somewhere spouting off to her 15 supporters. The GOP has given voice to the idiot fringe in America and it's dangerous.

longship

(40,416 posts)
24. Nope, just make her wear a clown nose when she speaks.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:47 PM
Oct 2015

And have her say, "Give the weeze a squeeze; many people like to" at the end of her speech.

Her-Ha! Her-Ha!

NonMetro

(631 posts)
15. Trump Was Right: You Really Do Get Headache After Listening To Her For Ten Minutes.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:02 PM
Oct 2015

Only Five for me!

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
18. She wouldn't be getting the attention she is
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:11 PM
Oct 2015

if it weren't for her gender. And that slant is what worries me about another prospect of her gender.

Punx

(446 posts)
20. As far as Republican Leaders are concerned
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:22 PM
Oct 2015

The media's job is to push their propaganda. They really don't have any other idea why it's there.

Seriously,

I worked for Fortune 1000 company and the CEO (a top Rethug fundraiser in the state) constantly complained about the local paper reporting (accurately) on the company's failed product. Seemed to think that they should have just published the company's press releases. Typical sociopathic behavior and Carly is a big a one as they come. Both that CEO and Carly (indirectly) have done a lot of harm to me and my wife.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
21. Kind of hard to have credibility
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:22 PM
Oct 2015

when you tell people the company you left behind was in great shape while the inferno rages on behind you.

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
26. GOPers just spout whtvr is "supposed" to be the case...
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 01:49 PM
Oct 2015

... as opposed to whatever really *is* the case. About everything.

I can't tell if they're lying or just ignorant/wrong. Either way, it's a pretty consistent thing.

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40RatRod

(532 posts)
29. Subject was misleading.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 02:03 PM
Oct 2015

I'm certainly no fan of this woman but I did not hear CNN call her a "liar to her face."

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
33. That wasn't very "magnificent." She just sort of sheepishly accused her of using inaccurate data a
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 02:16 PM
Oct 2015

Last edited Fri Oct 30, 2015, 10:29 PM - Edit history (1)

few times.

"Magnificent" would calling her on this "liberal media" bullshit that they've been using for decades to hush criticism. "Magnificent" would also be calling Fiorina on the fact that her entire purpose in the campaign is to launch attacks on Hillary Clinton that a male candidate would get more shit for using. That's why she's actually being funded by the superpacs of her "rivals" in this primary.

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