BLM interrupts Hillary Clinton in Atlanta G.A.

[bigdarryl]

[Cassiopeia]

1. I guess they haven't gotten the memo that Hillary has been

chosen for them.

Must have been lost in the mail.

[bravenak]

3. She did AWESOME!!!

[think]

5. Did she let them take the mic?

[riversedge]

7. didn't you watch the video?

[think]

12. Yes. I watched it.

[riversedge]

15. Then you know they were not on stage.

[bravenak]

8. Watch the video

[think]

9. In other words no.

[bravenak]

11. Does it not play on your machine?

[think]

14. I watched it. She didn't offer to let them speak from what I saw.

[bravenak]

16. I did not see them ask. Perhaps because she yelled black lives matter instead of leaving the stage?

[think]

18. Ok.

[riversedge]

17. Do you know if they asked??

[think]

19. Did she offer?

[riversedge]

21. That was not your original question.

............Did she let them take the mic?.......

[randys1]

2. BLM has accomplished so much in such a little amount of time.

And we need to help them FORCE all candidates to take notice as Hillary did here

[ornotna]

4. Not so much an interruption actually. n/t

[jwirr]

6. Agreed. The BLM group was well organized and did not get

very close to her. They got their message through.

[SunSeeker]

10. Gee, how come Bernie couldn't have just said "Black lives do matter!" like she did there?

It resulted in cheers and the event went on. Instead, Bernie acted flustered and left the stage--not once but on at least two occasions.

[bravenak]

13. Exactly!!

[riversedge]

20. oh oh

now you did it.

[SunSeeker]

45. LOL

[think]

22. Bernie tried to shake their hands when they got on stage in Seattle. Perhaps you forgot.

At Netroots he agreed and responded that Black Lives Mattered.

[SunSeeker]

26. They weren't there to shake hands. They wanted to be heard.

He just didn't know how to handle it.

[think]

31. They jumped on stage and were right next to him while he was speaking. Watch the video.

[think]

23. Bernie never left the stage either time.

[SunSeeker]

25. Yes, he left the podium and then left the stage. Each time.

At Net Roots and at Seattle.

[think]

28. Your welcome to your revisionist history but it's not factual

Check the videos.

[SunSeeker]

30. I suggest you do the same.

[think]

32. I did.

[Scootaloo]

36. In Seattle, the podium was ceded. Just as the protestors wanted.

Funny. he's a terrible guy for yielding the space to them. And he'd be a terrible guy if he didn't.

[SunSeeker]

39. He didn't just cede the podium, he left the stage, ending the rally. nt

[think]

40. See post 38 for the unedited video. He stood there for 20 minutes while the 2 women spoke.

What more do you want from him?

[Scootaloo]

41. No, he didn't leave the stage.

When the organizer agreed to give the podium to Marissa Jenae Johnson, Bernie stepped aside for her and stood to the side while she spoke. It's right there in the video. Go watch. Maybe your memory is bad.

[SunSeeker]

43. Yes, he did.

Instead of acknowledging them, stating he agrees with them, etc., he stood aside and apparently tried to wait them out. Then he left the stage.

[Scootaloo]

53. Boy, your goalposts keep moving.

[Phlem]

48. Rest my friend. There is no logic that can be used here.

They have their own reality which in and of itself speaks volumes. This thread is a perfect example.

Remember what it was like trying to talk logic to Republicans?

Our party has been invaded. But what do you expect from the Third Way running it for so long.

Better discussions are out there.

[zeemike]

66. Yep, it is a waste of time.

They create their own reality and facts and logic will never change it.

Kind of sad really to see our party become that which we used to be against.

[Scootaloo]

33. Mmmmno?

Bernie did get frustrated at Phoenix, but didn't "leave the stage" - the people hosting the event ended it early.

In Seattle, it wasn't his event. he was a guest speaker for an independently organized social security rally, and left the handling of the interruption to the event's organizers. he left because he was on a schedule, having an actual bernie Sandersevent later that evening to attend.

[SunSeeker]

35. He left the stage but he didn't "leave the stage." Got it. nt

[Scootaloo]

37. NRN's hosts ended the event fifteen minutes early. Everyone left the stage.

You're trying to cast it as some sort of unique malice on Sanders' part.

[SunSeeker]

42. I never said Sanders had "unique malice." He just didn't handle it well. nt

[Scootaloo]

52. Here's what you said

Gee, how come Bernie couldn't have just said "Black lives do matter!" like she did there?

It resulted in cheers and the event went on. Instead, Bernie acted flustered and left the stage--not once but on at least two occasions.

First off, you're telling three lies here.

1) At netroots nation, Sanders did in fact say that Black Lives matter.
2) he did not "leave the stage" as you imply at netroots - I suppose, in the sense that he's not still there, he did leave eventually... but he stayed for his full time... Though it happens the hosts cut said time in half.
3) Nor did he leave the stage in Seattle. he actually gave the space to the protestors, and stood on stage as they spoke.

You are lying to create the narrative of Sanders stomping off in a huff when confronted with Black Lives matter. That hasn't happened. yep, he could have done better at netroots, but frankly I don't blame him for being frustrated. between having his time cut in half, and that half being interrupted? I'd be frustrated too. No one likes being invited to speak, and then told to shut the fuck up.

You try to draw a contrast between him and Clinton. Alright. What do you think would happen to these protesters, if they jumped those fences (there were no fences at Sanders' speaking events), bulled through security (again, no security at Sanders' speaking events), climbed on stage and gave her the same treatment Sanders got in Seattle?

I imagine that a very many Clinton supporters on DU would tell us exactly what they really think about black lives matter, and black people in general, if that were to happen. How fortunate then, that there are so many layers of security between Clinton and the hoi polli that it's not likely to ever happen, I suppose

[SunSeeker]

61. No assertions of malice in what I said.

I just described how he didn’t handle it well.

All you're offering is excuses for why he didn't handle it well. He did end up leaving the stage and ending his speech. He did not say "Black lives do matter" and incorporate what happened into his speech like Hillary did. Her response acknoweldges what they are saying and shows agreement and solidarity with their message. Bernie's showed dismissiveness and annoyance. He lectured them about how he "marched with King," showing he was totally missing their point.

Seems like he's got a stump speech he likes to regurgitate and if you interrupt him it discombobulates him. He does not appear to know how to handle situations like this.

Sorry my observation pissed you off so much.

[Scootaloo]

67. I'm hardly pissed off, SunSeeker

I enjoy watching hillaryclintonsupporters wheel their goalposts around the field.

I'm telling you what happened, since you very clearly have no real information about either event, and are going purely off the political equivalent of campfire stories. I'm sure in the next one, Sanders will have a hook for a hand.

[SunSeeker]

68. LOL. Night, Scootaloo.

[sabrina 1]

72. Well, no malice, but it WAS pretty lame. He handled it perfectly. I am so proud to be a supporter

of a candidate who is so easy to campaign for.

Hillary otoh, has made it impossible for you and her other supporters to ever again criticize Sander's handling of disruptions.

The contortions to try to say 'THIS WAS OKAY TO TOSS OUT BLACK ACTIVISTS' while saying the opposite about Bernie have cause great laughter throughout the blogosphere! It really is hilarious!

[SunSeeker]

73. No he didn't handle it perfectly. He looked miffed and flustered.

[sabrina 1]

70. He handled it beautifully. And now we have this to compare it to, and Sanders handling of

the interruption of an event that WAS NOT HIS, he was just a guest, was a Class Act. Now the same people who screamed 'racism' at any suggestion that the interruption should have been handled the way this one was, are now totally FLIP FLOPPING and proving what most of knew from the start.

Bernie went to his OWN event right after that one, and was greeted by tens of thousands of supporters. It was an amazing night.

He just keeps on doing what is right, unphased by all the Rovian smear attempts and he people keep on signing up for his campaign.

Go Bernie! Who would never think of throwing protesters out of HIS events.

See how he handled the disruption this week by the Muslim Student. THAT should be used as a lesson to ALL politicians when faced with the inevitable protester disruptions. It was brilliant.

[polly7]

71. +1000. nt.

[SunSeeker]

74. I never "screamed racism." I said he didn’t handle it well.

You sure use lots of all caps. You must be mad. You would be a lot happier if you learned to accept the fact that most Dems don't think Bernie is flawless.

[think]

38. He patiently waited for over 20 minutes at the back of the stage in Seattle.

[SunSeeker]

44. Yup, he tried to wait them out rather than engage them or acknowledge them and their message. nt

[think]

51. Every time he tried to speak to them they shouted him down. Apparently is was a one way dialogue

[SunSeeker]

63. It wasn't a dialogue. It was a protest. And he didn't handle it well. nt

[magical thyme]

54. Bernie did say that. It wasn't enough for them. He tried to shake hands when they grabbed the mic.

And he was shoved in response.

On the other hand, here is where he stands according to the BLM group Campaign Zero on ending police violence. Compared to Hillary.

[magical thyme]

55. and then there's the way she met with BLM her 1st time around, in private...

And then her brilliant treatment of that nasty woman in Africa when the translator screwed up. The snarky tone and look on her face says it all:

Really, if you want to play that game, I have a slew of videos showing Hillary at her most authentic best.

[Kang Colby]

56. False.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/was-hillary-clintons-answer-in-congo-the-right-one/?_r=1

Clinton's translator did not make a mistake. Unlike Bernie, Clinton doesn't get pushed around by anyone.

[magical thyme]

57. still doesn't justify a snarky, angry response from chief "diplomat"

she could have said the same thing, to much more powerful effect, without the rudeness and snark. Instead, she comes off like the queen b that she thinks she is.

Nor was her rudeness in the private meeting with the BLM representatives necessary.

If you're going to criticize Bernie's response when he was totally blindsided, screamed at and physically assaulted, then be prepared for criticism of Hillary's nastiness that comes out even when she isn't blindsided and is being treated with the utmost respect. Because she is often just plain nasty and rude, not to mention sociopathic when she is laughing about war and killing. And the videos are out there to prove it.

[polly7]

69. Why are you using this photoshopped image again??

How pathetic.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=747806

[SunSeeker]

58. I'm not the one who wants to play games here.

You can try to deflect, but it is obvious Hillary handled her BLM moments well and Bernie didn't.

[magical thyme]

60. You might think her private meeting with them was "handling it well." I do not.

And neither did they.

[SunSeeker]

65. You're entitled to your opinion, as am I to mine.

[blackspade]

24. Loved the HILLARY! chants to drown out The BLM folks.

Not.

Clinton has more class than some of her more cultish followers.
At least she's coming around from her "all lives matter" stance!

[portlander23]

27. You know,

Let's not engage in too much schadenfreude at Mrs. Clinton's handling of this and let's be thrilled that this movement is making all the candidates feel uncomfortable enough that they have to address the issue.

[bravenak]

29. Ok.

[upaloopa]

34. Hillary fans actually standing up and cheering for Black Lives Matter!

Wonderful!

[azmom]

46. Why did they interrupt her? N/t

I couldn't see the sign.

[bigdarryl]

47. Because there stupid I've never seen this group interrupt any republicans who are running

For President.And don't these fools have jobs

[azmom]

49. I hope you are not serious. Do you know

Why they interrupted her? I thought she had met with them already?

[bigdarryl]

50. I'm dead serious and she did meet with them these fools are not happy what ever she says

[demwing]

75. Interesting headline: TEAM HILLARY WHINES: "BLM? Don't these fools have jobs?"

[votesparks]

59. Video of BLM Protesters Being Escorted Out of Rally, Being Called Ignorant By HRC Supporter

https://twitter.com/AUCShutItDown/status/660178339961954304

[SunSeeker]

64. They were escorted to a place where they could speak with John Lewis and others.

While security was maintained, they were treated with respect by the campaign.

[Truprogressive85]

76. really ?

so being called ignorant and the n-word is respect ?

They were told "black lives matter ,but its not the time " by a campaign staffer

you must have a different definition of respect



@_iAmRoyal
White man called me "ignorant" and "a ni**er" as I was being "escorted" out.
#Hillary4Who

[SunSeeker]

77. The Clinton campaign treated the protesters with respect.

No one from the Clinton campaign used the n-word. Everyone there had cell phones. I am sure if a Clinton staffer said anything like that, the video would be on Youtube and the person who heard it would be talking to the media. Anonymous Twitter posts are not substantiation. Even if there was a "white man" who said that, he obviously was not part of the people escorting the protesters, according to "iAmRoyal." The protesters were not "thrown out," they left on their own:

The group — fewer than 10 — eventually left the college gymnasium only after the crowd of more than 2,000, most of them young African-Americans, chanted, "Let her talk!"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/10/31/clintons-ideas-on-race/74937750/

I know it was embarrassing how Sanders handled his BLM moments. That is no reason to make shit up about Clinton.

And Clinton supporters are not swarming BLM websites and Twitter, lecturing BLM, like Sanders supporters disrespectfully did after his BLM face plant.

[Truprogressive85]

78. oh

Are you suggesting that the student(s) that were called ignorant and were called a racial epithet are lying ?

My brothers and sisters will be heard, and trust me it will not be last time



#Hillary4who
#AUCshutitdown

[SunSeeker]

79. I don't know who "iAmRoyal" is, do you? They are not affiliated with BLM.

And iAmRoyal did not say anyone from the Clinton campaign called him or her the n-word, regardless.

[Truprogressive85]

80. uh huh

As he was kicked out of the event a supporter spout those nasty words

BLM is one of many groups fighting for justice there are many others
sorry to burst your bubbble

but since you want to hear what someone from BLM has to say !

@Nettaaaaaaaa
And the "old guard" seems quite comfortable supporting a candidate hopeful with no racial justice platform... Those policies/laws effect us

@Nettaaaaaaaa Oct 30
Also hearing, respectable black folks are trying to silence and push protesters out of @HillaryClinton's rally. #Hillary4Who

@ShaunKing
I actually agree with the protestors at the @HillaryClinton rally.

She isn't taking police brutality serious enough. Not at all.

?@deray 20h20 hours ago
Hillary Clinton has an opportunity to propose a platform re: criminal justice and race that matches the urgency of her rhetoric.

[SunSeeker]

81. i know who BLM is. Then who is "he"? Why isn't he talking to reporters?

[Truprogressive85]

82. im not questioning him or his claims you are

you have his twitter handle you contact him and ask him ,since you have your doubts

[SunSeeker]

83. You suggested you knew who he was. That's why I asked.

Now it's obvious you were making shit up.

Buh bye.

[Truprogressive85]

84. you are the one doubting it happened

Where did I suggest I knew him ? bedsides following him on twitter


oh I get it, me being black person challenging you makes uncomfortable huh

well have good one

[SunSeeker]

85. I have no idea who you are either.

But have a good one whoever you are.